why I don't like the 350Z - from a 15/16 year old
11-25-2002, 03:04 PM
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Hey!
You can write paragraphs upon paragraphs on what is not so good w/ the Z. I'm sure you could do the same w/ the exotics too. Can we end this F'n thread?? TY
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You can write paragraphs upon paragraphs on what is not so good w/ the Z. I'm sure you could do the same w/ the exotics too. Can we end this F'n thread?? TY
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11-25-2002, 04:25 PM
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lol 600,000 miles? geez you got your money out of that one if that's accurate...
why do you think nissan is thought of as less than honda/toyota? i haven't heard any huge complaints or anything about nissan, but people just assume nissan isn't as good. you know ever since they discontinued the z32 nissans' brand image has decreased and i hope it goes back
11-25-2002, 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jumpman--Z
That's one of the reasons why Nissan made this one non-aspirated. Since you'll never have to worry about getting a turbo rebuilt, maintenance on the 350Z should be a lot cheaper.
That's one of the reasons why Nissan made this one non-aspirated. Since you'll never have to worry about getting a turbo rebuilt, maintenance on the 350Z should be a lot cheaper.
11-25-2002, 06:03 PM
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Z MSRP 26,800
M3 MSRP 46,540
I go with the Base to demonstrate my point.
Actual dealer cost
Z Base 26,800
M3 57,000
add taxes and extras. Unless you are making 80-90 k you ain't getting the m3. If you think that they give out 90k jobs after you get that 4 yr BA. Check with your local councelor.
M3 MSRP 46,540
I go with the Base to demonstrate my point.
Actual dealer cost
Z Base 26,800
M3 57,000
add taxes and extras. Unless you are making 80-90 k you ain't getting the m3. If you think that they give out 90k jobs after you get that 4 yr BA. Check with your local councelor.
11-25-2002, 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by BrainStorm
Since the Z starts at $26,809 (no options) and tops out at $34,619 (no options), I would hardly call it overpriced unless you're referring to dealers that add mark-ups in which case a good negotiator could bargain it off...
The 350Z does not suck. To say such a thing is just childish. You have a bad experience at one Nissan dealership and then you go online and condemn the car before you even drive it. I think you're just mad, go have some coffee and chill...
Since the Z starts at $26,809 (no options) and tops out at $34,619 (no options), I would hardly call it overpriced unless you're referring to dealers that add mark-ups in which case a good negotiator could bargain it off...
The 350Z does not suck. To say such a thing is just childish. You have a bad experience at one Nissan dealership and then you go online and condemn the car before you even drive it. I think you're just mad, go have some coffee and chill...
11-25-2002, 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by importriders
Honestly, you need to do more research because every single major magazine has done a review and some have done comparisons. There is alot of info on the web regarding the new Z also, check magazine websites. After that you'll have answered all your questions including reading driving impressions by professionals whose only job is to drive cars. There are also driving impressions, by people like you and me, on this board and other Z specific boards.
Not many people on this, or any other board are going to spoon feed you information that you could easily find yourself. Now if you have some hard questions, please post them up.
Honestly, you need to do more research because every single major magazine has done a review and some have done comparisons. There is alot of info on the web regarding the new Z also, check magazine websites. After that you'll have answered all your questions including reading driving impressions by professionals whose only job is to drive cars. There are also driving impressions, by people like you and me, on this board and other Z specific boards.
Not many people on this, or any other board are going to spoon feed you information that you could easily find yourself. Now if you have some hard questions, please post them up.
11-26-2002, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by kih80
Evo vII at $29k will eat 350z alive. coming feb, 03.
but I can't wait. I would buy s2k or 350z.
Evo vII at $29k will eat 350z alive. coming feb, 03.
but I can't wait. I would buy s2k or 350z.
11-27-2002, 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by TJZ
I thought it was going to be the EVO VIII? Anyway, is feb. confirmed? If so, i didnt know it had a confirmed date yet. Also, I would say it would eat a 350z alive. They Z would hang right there w/ it aside from launches. Keep in mind that we don't live in japan so it'll get detuned.
I thought it was going to be the EVO VIII? Anyway, is feb. confirmed? If so, i didnt know it had a confirmed date yet. Also, I would say it would eat a 350z alive. They Z would hang right there w/ it aside from launches. Keep in mind that we don't live in japan so it'll get detuned.
11-27-2002, 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by Phatmitzu
WTF? EVO VIII?! where did you hear that? How would you know if it would burn a 350z if you dont even know which model is it?
WTF? EVO VIII?! where did you hear that? How would you know if it would burn a 350z if you dont even know which model is it?
11-27-2002, 09:38 AM
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I think the one thing that deffenitely sucks is some of these dealers the one I went to didnt wanna open the car door or even pop the hood let alone a test drive thats a lil out of line to want to sell cars with no test drive or even letting the person sit in the car, and you can go down the street and they will let you drive a 50,000 bmw. Its a new platform so people really have no clue what there getting other then what they read.
11-27-2002, 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by z350z
How can you mention the Celica? It's a spruced-up front-wheel-drive economy car. Comparing it with a powerful RWD sportscar is like comparing a Corvette to some crappy FWD American "sporty" car. If you know so little about cars that you can't tell the difference between a Celica and a 350Z, get yourself a Celica, save the money, and be happy.
How can you mention the Celica? It's a spruced-up front-wheel-drive economy car. Comparing it with a powerful RWD sportscar is like comparing a Corvette to some crappy FWD American "sporty" car. If you know so little about cars that you can't tell the difference between a Celica and a 350Z, get yourself a Celica, save the money, and be happy.
Bottom line is, don't diss any car if you don't know what you are talking about.
11-27-2002, 01:15 PM
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well for one thing, the mitsubishi EVO Sweepstakes ends 2/28/03.
so they would be giving out EVO around that time.
and yes it is EVO VII.
because suburu's going to release WRX STI verson in the US, the chances are EVO VII will be neck to neck competetion or better.
which means it will be faster, and better in everyway than the WRX(non-sti) as a Sports car.
and $29k. is a word by mitsubishi business director of somekind.
but I have a buy a car next month.
so they would be giving out EVO around that time.
and yes it is EVO VII.
because suburu's going to release WRX STI verson in the US, the chances are EVO VII will be neck to neck competetion or better.
which means it will be faster, and better in everyway than the WRX(non-sti) as a Sports car.
and $29k. is a word by mitsubishi business director of somekind.
but I have a buy a car next month.
11-27-2002, 02:42 PM
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kih80: Regarding evos. They are pretty impressive cars. But couple of things. Evo 8 is comming here which will be called the evolution. They are planning to hit the market next year.
I belive unofficially it will have about 267 bhp + AWD. Will it beat a Z. Stock vs Stock that is something you will have to wait and see.
I know that Evos run with impressive numbers. From what I read the car will be comming in at aobut 30K. So that is already 3k over base Z. Keep that in Mind. Z is a strong car as well it ain't no ***** that is for sure.
I belive unofficially it will have about 267 bhp + AWD. Will it beat a Z. Stock vs Stock that is something you will have to wait and see.
I know that Evos run with impressive numbers. From what I read the car will be comming in at aobut 30K. So that is already 3k over base Z. Keep that in Mind. Z is a strong car as well it ain't no ***** that is for sure.
11-27-2002, 03:58 PM
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OK, I didn't read 90% of teh posts but I'm gonna post anyway...
The new Z isn't a GREAT deal for teh $$ but a very good one.
As far as teh Exterior goes, it's super original, sleek, attractive. No, it's not lux/aggressive looking like teh M3. It looks like a sports car, that;s what it should look like.
Interior quality - 8 out of 10...it's simple sporty, in your face. Much like the Z it self, function over fashion. Although it's very hip and sleek looking. It doens't have 5,000,000 buttons like BMW and MB.
The overall attitude of teh Z carries thoughout: This is a sports car, it's not a town car. This is gonna move and let you know it's moving.
The new Z isn't a GREAT deal for teh $$ but a very good one.
As far as teh Exterior goes, it's super original, sleek, attractive. No, it's not lux/aggressive looking like teh M3. It looks like a sports car, that;s what it should look like.
Interior quality - 8 out of 10...it's simple sporty, in your face. Much like the Z it self, function over fashion. Although it's very hip and sleek looking. It doens't have 5,000,000 buttons like BMW and MB.
The overall attitude of teh Z carries thoughout: This is a sports car, it's not a town car. This is gonna move and let you know it's moving.
11-28-2002, 01:03 AM
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Don't worry.
I love the Z.
actually thinking of buying one.
That's why I'm here.
but If Lancer EVO is not less than 5 sec 0-60, I will be disappointed. 4.9 is ok. lol
There's one EVO VII in the US (left hand drive, so us spec) which ran in a local track.( maybe it was companies secret test ) I think I have in a video too. It ran mid 13s in the first run I think. I don't know the exact time.
I love the Z.
actually thinking of buying one.
That's why I'm here.
but If Lancer EVO is not less than 5 sec 0-60, I will be disappointed. 4.9 is ok. lol
There's one EVO VII in the US (left hand drive, so us spec) which ran in a local track.( maybe it was companies secret test ) I think I have in a video too. It ran mid 13s in the first run I think. I don't know the exact time.
11-29-2002, 04:46 AM
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I won't dignify this thread by responding to all the rants but one.
Good service and respect from BMW?
Ha Ha, Ho HO. They are the biggest bunch of jerks that crossed this planet.
Try to get legitimate warranty work done, they might do it if they're in the mood. This is not a one time occurence here, they have been instructed by BMW NA to try any deny any warranty, if possible.
I put up with their crap for 4 years
JRL
Good service and respect from BMW?
Ha Ha, Ho HO. They are the biggest bunch of jerks that crossed this planet.
Try to get legitimate warranty work done, they might do it if they're in the mood. This is not a one time occurence here, they have been instructed by BMW NA to try any deny any warranty, if possible.
I put up with their crap for 4 years
JRL