Why aren't we Scared?
Originally Posted by hypeiv
I can admit that the Z is fast enough for me... even stock. I know all the FI guys say how slow the stock Z is and for them I bet it is, however I rarely find myself at WOT anyway so I really don't think I need a faster car. I never go to the 1/4 mile track and I don't go around looking for street races (esp not against SUV's).
If you wanted to buy the car with the fastest straight line speed for the best price you wouldn't have gotten a Z in the first place so you shouldn't freak out when faster cars come out.
When I picked the Z over the other cars I was looking at I didn't even look at 1/4 mile times. I test drove all the cars I was interested in and I picked the one I liked the most. I had no idea people were getting stock Z's into the low 14's high 13's till about a week after I bought the car.
If you wanted to buy the car with the fastest straight line speed for the best price you wouldn't have gotten a Z in the first place so you shouldn't freak out when faster cars come out.
When I picked the Z over the other cars I was looking at I didn't even look at 1/4 mile times. I test drove all the cars I was interested in and I picked the one I liked the most. I had no idea people were getting stock Z's into the low 14's high 13's till about a week after I bought the car.
I rarely race, I went to a track once (i loved it tho and going to be there every time i have some free time and when the weather is nice).. I dont street race and Im at WOT sometimes when im getting onto a highway... 287 hp for a stock Z is PLENTY for me....for now...
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Originally Posted by axxizzer
What does the Z compete against?
Honda S2000
And any other under $35K REAL Sports Cars - oops, there are no more that I can think of.
Don't say Evo or those other juvenile `boy racer' looking cars either.
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From: where the polar bears roam
Originally Posted by azjimbo
When are you guys going to realize that speed is not the cure all for everything. The Z has always been a sports car for the masses. It offers styling, performance, decent gas mileage, 6 cylinders, good handling for a very competitive price. The Vette is a 55k chevy, the WRX is a souped up econobox, M3's are 55-60K, a new Boxster S will run over 60K loaded. So stop the whining are just enjoy the car for what it is not what you want it to be.
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The Suv will never equate to the Z. Never!
As for those of us with the intention of keeping our G/Z's for longer than a few years....The domestic will die (in every sence
) and the import will triumph overall once again.......... 
Reading that first post made me laugh. I just got back from AutoX today. There were three Corvettes running today, including one Z06 that I heard the owner bragging that he recently got back from the shop. He had a new built-up engine put in it putting down well over 500hp to the wheels. None of his four runs were any better than my best time. And it's not from lack of experience, he's been Autoxing just as long if not longer than me. One of the other vettes had similar times to me and the third was noticeably slower.
All of those guys paid a whole lot more for their vettes than I paid for my Z, and I sure don't see where they're getting better performance for the money.
Drive what you love. This shouldn't be a *****-measuring contest.
All of those guys paid a whole lot more for their vettes than I paid for my Z, and I sure don't see where they're getting better performance for the money.
Drive what you love. This shouldn't be a *****-measuring contest.
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From: Here and There
Originally Posted by axxizzer
So basically what youre saying is that you will settle for a Z because you like the history, and the GAS MILEAGE??
Many agree. The RX-8, severely underpowered and "weak" when compared to the Z, won a spot on C&D's "10 Best" list while the Z did not, and this was because it has "surgical" handling. R&T favors the S2000 for the same reason.
Compared to ridiculously-powered SUV's or other behemoth heavyweights, the Z will kill them any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
And no matter how many horses you have or how stiff your suspension is, nothing LOOKS like a Z.
The gestalt of the Z is what wins.
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From: the kid from greendale
wait.
you mean there are cars out on the market that are faster than the z, and in the same price range???!!!
stop bvllsh1ttin.
nick (bought the z for so many more reasons than speed)
you mean there are cars out on the market that are faster than the z, and in the same price range???!!!
stop bvllsh1ttin.
nick (bought the z for so many more reasons than speed)
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What is the point of this thread?
Last time I looked, this forum was about a particular model of sports car so why are we even talking about an SUV?
I can understand talking about the Z in context with other cars like the Honda or other sports cars but a TRUCK
I can understand talking about the Z in context with other cars like the Honda or other sports cars but a TRUCK
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To me the Z is an icon that i have always admired. Now I finally have one and it's more than I could have hoped for. Keep all the others if thats what you like because thats all that matters.
I will keep my 35th Anniv for a very long time and will always enjoy it no matter what else is out there.
I just replaced my 1990 eagle Talon with 62k on it with this Z and although that car is way oudated, it still looks hot and can still turn heads. I am pretty sure my Z will last the same 16 years or longer (summer driving of course) and the Z certainly has history behind it that will keep it an icon for an awfully long time.
So go buy your SUV (btw I think my Titan will kick the **** out of that chevy) and your hemi's, me, I'll take my Z and in 16 years when your's is long dead you can look at mine and say DAMM!!! I used to have one of them.....Peace Z lovers.......
I will keep my 35th Anniv for a very long time and will always enjoy it no matter what else is out there.
I just replaced my 1990 eagle Talon with 62k on it with this Z and although that car is way oudated, it still looks hot and can still turn heads. I am pretty sure my Z will last the same 16 years or longer (summer driving of course) and the Z certainly has history behind it that will keep it an icon for an awfully long time.
So go buy your SUV (btw I think my Titan will kick the **** out of that chevy) and your hemi's, me, I'll take my Z and in 16 years when your's is long dead you can look at mine and say DAMM!!! I used to have one of them.....Peace Z lovers.......
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Handling on the z is poor? are you actually driving the car?
1/4 high 13's is slow for a beautiful car that's not made for the drag strip? sorry, but you are a fool. cars are going to get better every jear; you just have to deal with it. what is nissan doing about it? they are releasing the gt-r. if you're worried about 1/4 mile times, buy a 1982 Buick Grand National. It's an ugly POS that can run 9's. go buy that trail blazer and have everybody ask if that's your dad's car while all the girls turn around and beg for a ride in the z. that one seat is much more special than the other four or five in a trail blazer.
1/4 high 13's is slow for a beautiful car that's not made for the drag strip? sorry, but you are a fool. cars are going to get better every jear; you just have to deal with it. what is nissan doing about it? they are releasing the gt-r. if you're worried about 1/4 mile times, buy a 1982 Buick Grand National. It's an ugly POS that can run 9's. go buy that trail blazer and have everybody ask if that's your dad's car while all the girls turn around and beg for a ride in the z. that one seat is much more special than the other four or five in a trail blazer.
only read first two posts. i didn't buy my z to compete with anyone. bot it cuz i wanted a porsche-style car but didn't want to spend porsche money for it. there will always be someone faster. besides, the trailblazer is a chevy, and i'm not an suv guy anyway. i'm a sports car guy, and the z meets my wants and needs just fine.
Straight-line speed bores me. The Z may not be the best at anything, but it's pretty damn good at everything. During the AutoX today I took STi, A4, Vette, and Miata owners for a lap and they couldn't get over how much fun it was riding in the Z compared to their cars.
I think I'll keep my Z, thanks very much.
I think I'll keep my Z, thanks very much.
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Lol for some reason I think the original poster was being satirical/sarcastic in his post. If i`m right, then very nice work. You are absolutely right on the money on what some of these pathetic enthusiast wanna-be`s have been *****in and moanin about for the past couple months
axxizzer i feel ya on that they are under power cars. Im in the market for looking for a new car i was going to get a z so my dad and I could build up are cars together but im in the middle now. my dad has the 350 as his second car so i always drive it. After driving it i love the looks i get in the car and it feels sporty and all but it just dont put the power down like i thought it would. Im having a big problem cause i looking at the evo, supra if i ever find one with low mile for a good price or the Z.
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Beating a WRX is no biggie, but imagine the fact that the WRX costs a few thousand less, and with 1K in mods, will spank any more expensive Z.
- It had a new exhaust (from the sound as he had it floored) That'd run a thou right? And I've done nothing to mine.
GTRs...Skyline GTRs? What? explain that one,
-1990 skyline gtr... great on acceleration, Z better handling. On a twisty mountain road it was really no contest.
but and A4 is a little POS bottom-barrel Audi. Good job beating that car that doesnt even try to be sporty.
-Sorry, I meant S4.
And the cornering ability of the Z is pretty...humdrum. It still oversteers, and is heavy, and has ****ty tires and wheels...
-You must be a bad driver. Sorry.
- It had a new exhaust (from the sound as he had it floored) That'd run a thou right? And I've done nothing to mine.
GTRs...Skyline GTRs? What? explain that one,
-1990 skyline gtr... great on acceleration, Z better handling. On a twisty mountain road it was really no contest.
but and A4 is a little POS bottom-barrel Audi. Good job beating that car that doesnt even try to be sporty.
-Sorry, I meant S4.
And the cornering ability of the Z is pretty...humdrum. It still oversteers, and is heavy, and has ****ty tires and wheels...
-You must be a bad driver. Sorry.
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Some of you guys are so fixated on HP. Take a xanax and relax.
The Z is an all over sports car. Go drive an SRT4 and see how long you can put up with its cheap interior, low build quality, engine popping, FWD torque steer'ness.
RWD sports cars are usually reserved for a more affluent buyer. Nissan did us a real favor with the Z.
Don't worry a NEW Z is around the corner. Nissan has always liked being the HP kings in their class, so I'm sure they won't disappoint.
Guys relax. You have one of the best looking and best handling cars on the road. This car will age gracefully. Go out to a track even if you can, really enjoy the car.
The GTR and a new Z is around the corner. Don't go getting yourself into more debt/negative equity just for some more straight line speed.
The Z is an all over sports car. Go drive an SRT4 and see how long you can put up with its cheap interior, low build quality, engine popping, FWD torque steer'ness.
RWD sports cars are usually reserved for a more affluent buyer. Nissan did us a real favor with the Z.
Don't worry a NEW Z is around the corner. Nissan has always liked being the HP kings in their class, so I'm sure they won't disappoint.
Guys relax. You have one of the best looking and best handling cars on the road. This car will age gracefully. Go out to a track even if you can, really enjoy the car.
The GTR and a new Z is around the corner. Don't go getting yourself into more debt/negative equity just for some more straight line speed.
Originally Posted by axxizzer
I just picked up the latest Motortrend to read the article about the Trailblazer SS. The effing SUV is faster stock, than our Zs, not to mention it is the same price, and can seat 5, carry a bunch of crap, and did I mention will respond easier to mods?
What the hell is Nissan going to do about this? Why do we own Zs if we can get a BETTER vehicle for the same price? Sure, the Z is sexy as hell, but damn, how many times have you had to borrow a buddy's truck, or rent your own, or just OWN another? Now you can do anything you could do In a Z, in something that can tow a trailer.
The Z is kind of dying! The WRX is getting faster, the Corvette is MUCH faster for just a tad more money, the M3 is getting faster, Porsches are getting faster, THE EFFING EVO, STi, Lotus, etc
I seriously cant think of one car the Z will beat as a sports car V sports car!
It must be a dying breed, the Z. For the next generation, its getting heavier, more cushy, SLOWER, and there isnt a damn thing we, the owners/consumers can do about it.
Discuss
What the hell is Nissan going to do about this? Why do we own Zs if we can get a BETTER vehicle for the same price? Sure, the Z is sexy as hell, but damn, how many times have you had to borrow a buddy's truck, or rent your own, or just OWN another? Now you can do anything you could do In a Z, in something that can tow a trailer.
The Z is kind of dying! The WRX is getting faster, the Corvette is MUCH faster for just a tad more money, the M3 is getting faster, Porsches are getting faster, THE EFFING EVO, STi, Lotus, etc
I seriously cant think of one car the Z will beat as a sports car V sports car!
It must be a dying breed, the Z. For the next generation, its getting heavier, more cushy, SLOWER, and there isnt a damn thing we, the owners/consumers can do about it.
Discuss
Originally Posted by axxizzer
Why do we own Zs if we can get a BETTER vehicle for the same price?
There are certainly cars that do "things" better than the Z, but they're not the same cars.
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Originally Posted by axxizzer
I just picked up the latest Motortrend to read the article about the Trailblazer SS. The effing SUV is faster stock, than our Zs, not to mention it is the same price, and can seat 5, carry a bunch of crap, and did I mention will respond easier to mods?
NHTS Trailblazer 2WD ROLLOVER RATING ***
NHTS 350Z ROLLOVER RATING *****
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Originally Posted by axxizzer
I just picked up the latest Motortrend to read the article about the Trailblazer SS. The effing SUV is faster stock, than our Zs, not to mention it is the same price, and can seat 5, carry a bunch of crap, and did I mention will respond easier to mods?
What the hell is Nissan going to do about this? Why do we own Zs if we can get a BETTER vehicle for the same price? Sure, the Z is sexy as hell, but damn, how many times have you had to borrow a buddy's truck, or rent your own, or just OWN another? Now you can do anything you could do In a Z, in something that can tow a trailer.
The Z is kind of dying! The WRX is getting faster, the Corvette is MUCH faster for just a tad more money, the M3 is getting faster, Porsches are getting faster, THE EFFING EVO, STi, Lotus, etc
I seriously cant think of one car the Z will beat as a sports car V sports car!
It must be a dying breed, the Z. For the next generation, its getting heavier, more cushy, SLOWER, and there isnt a damn thing we, the owners/consumers can do about it.
Discuss
What the hell is Nissan going to do about this? Why do we own Zs if we can get a BETTER vehicle for the same price? Sure, the Z is sexy as hell, but damn, how many times have you had to borrow a buddy's truck, or rent your own, or just OWN another? Now you can do anything you could do In a Z, in something that can tow a trailer.
The Z is kind of dying! The WRX is getting faster, the Corvette is MUCH faster for just a tad more money, the M3 is getting faster, Porsches are getting faster, THE EFFING EVO, STi, Lotus, etc
I seriously cant think of one car the Z will beat as a sports car V sports car!
It must be a dying breed, the Z. For the next generation, its getting heavier, more cushy, SLOWER, and there isnt a damn thing we, the owners/consumers can do about it.
Discuss
but its all good on what you want to get. if you feel better sitting behind a blazer more power to you bro....
