At least get it right. The Z understeers. In most cases manufacturers engineer understeer into a vehicle to keep novice drivers out of trouble because it causes the car to "push" through corners and scrub off speed. A car that oversteers (like a Porsche) will swap ends when pushed past the limit of adhesion and spin out.

If you want to drive a Chevy SUV then buy one. Every vehicle has it uses. I bet you won't get as much attention and your gas mileage will probably be terrible. And my guess is the Trailblazer will understeer like a bulldozer. It may be able to run 0-60 and the 1/4 mile with the Z but I doubt that will will be able to do 150+ MPH and run a road course like a Z.

You go ahead and buy one. I will pass.

 

I hope that you are you are being sarcastic. Please let me know this is true.

 

+1
Ah Rampage, buddy, that was well said

 

Amen

The Z has a lot of personality. I can't count the number of times I have attracted attention in gridlock traffic. I can tell you I wasn't using my 287HP at that moment and frankly...could care less if a friggen SUV can whoop my ***. It's always hotter to know a guy with only 2 seats instead of 5. 'nuff said.

 

Sure, the Z is a more all-around sports car. However, I do agree with this guy to a point. I think a lot of people here are justifying their loyalty by saying they got the Z for looks, handling, etc. I think the guy who started this thread is a more loyal Z enthusiast than a whole lot of you. Mostly because he demands more out of it when you guys are satisfied with it's looks, handling, etc. Or maybe you're not satisfied with that and you're attempting to convince yourself that it's a good sports car to have. I dunno, I like it a lot but I'd be much happier if it did have more straight line speed. Everyone likes to ridicule the guy who wants that, along with handling, looks, fuel economy and what not. Is the Z really that much of an "all-around sports car" among todays sports cars?; or non-sports cars even (Magnum SRT-8, Evo)?

 

Have YOU been thinking about it? Do you not look around when driving the Z? One feeling I like about the Z is that when I'm driving it, I look around and I know that I can outperform most of the cars around me.

 

what to comment on first, Sorry, I was out with my friends, one of whom happens to own an EVO. LOL BOYRAZER LOL and all that, but it is effing fast. My other friend has a C6, and will also blast me any day of the week.

So now people are saying they got the Z...the 2 seater sports car, designed for nothing but Speed/price, and are defending it against cars that are faster, for the same or cheaper price. That makes no sense. And its not just the TrailBlazer, sure, it made me make this thread, but it certainly isnt the only car I'm talking about.

And to whoever says the Z gets 5.2 0-60 stock....no. They dont. It takes a good driver to get the Z to do high 13's stock, and most magazines rate the Z at 5.5+ 0-60.

And I am sorry for the over/under slipup, I meant under, and own the car, but I guess I just mis-typed, my apologies. Which does in fact remind me, the Z DOES Understeer. BAD. And I have autocrossed, and I have gone to a couple track days, and I do flog the crap out of my car in twisties; but the fact remains that so many cars can handle and accelerate better.

And what is the deal with everyone falling back on "BUT THE CAR IS TEH HAWT!!1" dont do that, ricers do that. It doesnt matter if they're wrong, they do that.

The VQ engine HAS been the best in some time.... For FWD sedans...and trucks...and minivans...and the Murano....and almost everything else made by nissan. It is good because it is a strong endurance/ economy motor. NOT because it is kicking fast yo.

In fact, the VQ has a few things that pre-determine it to be slower than four/cyls. Ever wonder why it is nearly impossible to take the VQ into 300+ Wheel HP NA?
And yet so easy for other NA engines to do so? How intake, exhaust, cams, whatnot make almost NO power? And how britte and fragile the internals are, so FI is dangerous at best? Its because its not a performance engine. Never has been, never was intended to be, and unless something comes out that will change my perceptions, never will be.

 

+1/2

 

nah. I say 5.4-5.6 with a great driver.

 

So when are you trading in your Z for the trailblazer?

 

that's a good question.

 

wow..

 

Uh huh. because most of the cars around you are likely F-150s, corollas and the like.

You get the same feeling in any of the cars I mentioned, but I live in one of the richest places in the world, and I cant feel that way. But it pains me that I WOULD feel that way in a Magnum EFFING WAGON SRT. Thats right, the Magnum SRT-8 is faster than the Z, dont deny it, not to mention it can actually carry both things and people in pretty good comfort.

Like my Rottweiler, the Z couldnt HOPE to carry that summa*****, but the Magnum can, for the same price.

We compete with the S2K? Really? lets look at it price-wise: The fastest Convertible Z vs the Fastest S2000

Meaning the 36 thousand dollar car vs the 32. They are about as fast in a straight line, but one blows the other away in handling, guess which one.

We compete against the RX-8...really? The Z, a 2 seat sports car, vs a well handling sedan. They are not at all in the same class.

The Z truly competes with nothing. And finds a way to lose!!
But the problem arises when I realise that I cant get a new car, or a Turbo just yet, as I have been fired from my job at the NRC.

 

So do you reaserch a little better next time you go out to buy a car. If you want a fast car which handles good, but dot care to mucha bout looks go with an STI or an Evo, If you want a fast accelerating car but dot care about handling too much go with an american car, and if you want a fast truck were you want acceleration and carring capacity but dot need/want handling at all go with the triblazer, or a lighting or something like that.

I did my reasearch and made the best decition I could ever make, I love the acceleration, handling, looks, price, even the interior (which many hate). For me it is the best car for its price. But hey every one is different, and have different tastes and needs, I thank god for that, because I would realy hate seeing a bumch of Z in the street exactly as mine.

 

[QUOTE=axxizzer]
Ever wonder why it is nearly impossible to take the VQ into 300+ Wheel HP NA?
And yet so easy for other NA engines to do so? QUOTE]

I don't disagree that the 3.5 in the Z could be better. It is a 10 year old design after all. But come on, what engines that displace 3.5 ltrs or less easily get over 300 HP NA?

Lexus just came out with a brand new engine in the IS350 and it has 306 HP. Porsche's new 3.4 Ltr in the Cayman makes 295HP. Those are both brand spankin new engines. Our 10 year old Nissan 3.5 makes 300HP. Pretty good for a utilitarian motor I think. I would say this engine is the Japanese version of the Chevy small block.

I am sure that Nissan has a kick-butt replacment motor in the works for the new Z that is coming. I for one will be a little sad to see this motor retired but time marches on.

IMO the Z is the sexiest and one of the best all round performing vehicles you can buy for 30K. In my area of the country they are rare enough to turn heads like a Porsche or Ferrari. SUVs, Mustangs, Evos, WRX STIs, Vettes and the like are much more common. That counts for something with me. But to each thier own. You sound very dissatisfied and if that is the case then you should definitely own something else. Best of luck to you on whatever you chose.

 

this thread is useless, if you bought your Z to run 0-60 times in a straight line all day then maybe its not the car for you. c6? have you seen the price tag on that thing? Evo and Sti, we are all over 18 or soon will be. If either of those two cars actually meet your level of sophositcation then you might need to grow up or am I the only one who thinks only teenagers should be driving those things? I honestly hope people dont buy cars weighing this much into 0-60 times. Did you not know the Z was a 2 seater when you bought it? I'm just puzzled reading this thread.

 

Sigh.

It doesnt handle all that spectacularly either. and I knew it was a 2-seater, which is why I also have my Mazda3 5-door. But I am simply amazed that there are carS which do both, at the price of ONE.

 

[QUOTE=Rampage]
And watch, the new hot engine for the next-gen Z will also make it heavier, with an even more extreme front bias, and not to mention more expensive.

 

No one is denying that the other cars are not faster. So what? If you don't see the beauty and sexyness of the Z, PLEASE GO TRADE IN YOUR Z AND END THIS THREAD!

 

curb weight of the trailblazer SS:
2wd: 4,773lbs
4x4: 4954lbs
And witch engine for the trailblazer SS did motortrend talk about? Was it the v6 that produces 291hp/277tq or was it the Vortec 5300 v8 which produces 300hp/330tq or the LS2 6.0L v8 which produces 395hp/400tq?

Oh, and you said it seats five people and cargo as well? Here is the GVWR(Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. When properly equipped; includes weight of vehicle, driver, passengers, optional equipment, and cargo.)
2x2: 6,200lbs
4x4: 6400lbs

I'll take on your SUV in my mountain twisites anyday. Let's see your dragster of an SUV keep up with me. I'll bring a cell phone to call in the medics when the SUV flips over.