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If the 350zr is going to be the Turbo model, how many of you are going to be disappointed by the n.a. 350z. With a turbo this car will be around 350+ h.p. I really cant believe that people are buying this car site unseen( touched, sat in, driven) You might have just bought somthing that you really dont care for. I have always thought that a turbo would be down the road, even though everyone said "they want to keep the price down, just like the 240z". Hog wash!!!! they had a turbo in the 80's and the 90's....... This car will have a turbo in the future. And cost, I believe it will be only $4,ooo more than a non turbo. We will just wait and see. I myself would never buy a car that hasnt even been built yet. Hope you all get what you really want. I think it is a good thing that my current lease is due up next may is a good thing. Gives me time to see what is going to happen. A turbo 350zr sounds very nice to me......
good luck all.
good luck all.
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You are right. Most of the NA 350Z owners will be dissapointed when/if Turbo version comes out. They will feel like their car is missing something. But at the same time the novelty of driving a car which nobody has seen before wont be there. By the time the Turbo ones hit the road there wll be thousands of NA 350Zs running around the road. For most of these new owners including myself, I think the first year of driving around in this car will be most pleasurable because of the "coolness" factor.
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i dont know about anyone else but im kinda concerned. i know im buying a great car now but im just wondering if i should wait until the next year model comes out with more power.....350zr??? i dont have tons of money but i want the best and im willing to wait. is anyone else out there concerned like me?
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Originally posted by VQracer
I'm not worrying about a turbo model, because I know the japanese support of aftermarkets parts for the Z is going to be huge. I bet one of the aftermarket companies is going to come out with a turbo. Preferably using Garret turbochargers.
Also, the turbo is going to cost more. I would rather spend the extra money on aftermarket bits and pieces.
I'm not worrying about a turbo model, because I know the japanese support of aftermarkets parts for the Z is going to be huge. I bet one of the aftermarket companies is going to come out with a turbo. Preferably using Garret turbochargers.
Also, the turbo is going to cost more. I would rather spend the extra money on aftermarket bits and pieces.
i do believe FI is in the works for this car, however I'm not sure if i'd be willing to wait and pay more for the blown car..
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You can considerably reduce or eliminate turbo lag by using sequential turbos. Basically you have a smaller turbo for low end and bigger turbo for high end. So once you get up there in speed then the small turbo shuts off and the bigger one takes over.
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I'm a big turbo fan, my last 4 cars have all been turbo, but one of the great things about a naturally aspirated car is throttle response. Sequential turbos may help (where the hell would they fit in the Z?) but you won't ever beat the throttle response of the n/a 3.5L V6.
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I'm happy. I don't like trubos. A na Z with 287+ HP is fine with me, I'm not going to be racing the car. I have owned every Z made and always loved them. There is no reason I should not love this car. If by some chance I don't like it when it arrives I don't buy it and get my mondepositey back.
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I don't know about turbos for such a well balanced sports car.
I'm not sure if I want that thing kicking in at 3 grand when I'm trying to control a part throttle corner and send my *** end out front. I drove a heavy Pontiac T/A with way too much torque for cornering on the street before and even with a flat torque curve (no turbo spike) it was still difficult to modulate throttle inputs particularly in mid-turn.
I like NA. If you turbocharge a Z, you will make gains in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times assuming you have enough tire out back (the stock 18s probably don't have enough surface area for 350 rwhp) but the car is going to be very different. If I was going to plunk down 5 grand for an aftermarket forced induction system I'd want to be atleast close to that lofty hp peak. I'd consider a 350Z with a stock turbo if offered but I think I'd lay off on the Nismo offering unless I knew *exactly* what I was getting in to ahead of time.
A factory offering running in the low 13s with equal or better handling/braking performance as an NA Track would convince me to spend the extra money. Not some bloated muscle car wannabe though.
I'm not sure if I want that thing kicking in at 3 grand when I'm trying to control a part throttle corner and send my *** end out front. I drove a heavy Pontiac T/A with way too much torque for cornering on the street before and even with a flat torque curve (no turbo spike) it was still difficult to modulate throttle inputs particularly in mid-turn.
I like NA. If you turbocharge a Z, you will make gains in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times assuming you have enough tire out back (the stock 18s probably don't have enough surface area for 350 rwhp) but the car is going to be very different. If I was going to plunk down 5 grand for an aftermarket forced induction system I'd want to be atleast close to that lofty hp peak. I'd consider a 350Z with a stock turbo if offered but I think I'd lay off on the Nismo offering unless I knew *exactly* what I was getting in to ahead of time.
A factory offering running in the low 13s with equal or better handling/braking performance as an NA Track would convince me to spend the extra money. Not some bloated muscle car wannabe though.
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Don't listen to silvrz5!
Originally posted by silvrz5
I myself would never buy a car that hasnt even been built yet. Hope you all get what you really want. ... Gives me time to see what is going to happen.
I myself would never buy a car that hasnt even been built yet. Hope you all get what you really want. ... Gives me time to see what is going to happen.
Seriously though, I think we're all good with the NA Z. It's time for the GTR to hit US shores & whoop up on Vetts, Ms, Porches, Vipers and even Ferraris. I doubt they want the Z to be too close perfomance wise.
Also, Nissan realizes how huge the aftermarket is. I'm sure they have many goodies for us. JmanZ has told us all along that Nissan has tuned the VQ to ~300HP. Therefore, we have an ECU comming that should be good for 300HP or more. Not sure about the air filter. A cone will give us more air but the stock air box has an awsome CAI, almost ram type. The exhaust has high-tech equal length headers & looks like 3" diameter back to that HUGE muffler. Doubt we'll need to change that either. Maybe a light weight flywheel for more throttle response. (Remember, NISMO can also tune in more throttle response from the ECU with the servo on the throttle body.
I guess what I'm saying is that we'll all have ~300-320 HP in our new high tech FM chassis for the cost of a air intake and ECU. I call it the poor man's 911! Also, the NA VQ is probably good for 200K miles.
If FI is on the way I'd prefer a supercharger anyway. The car has an awsome beefy flat torque curve. A supercharger will tend to amplifiy it rather that make it peaky like a turbo. A roots blower will be much cheaper and leass comlicated than turbo. Easily good for 350+ HP with conservative tuning. All this with an inexpensive insurance premium!
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I think Nissan might not want to cannibalize sales from the gtr, but they will have to compete with the supra and rx-7 in 2004. The word in the supra forum is that toyota is aiming for a 350hp v6 starting in the 30s. It seems like they'll be getting rid of all the bloat and target the porche/s2000 customers. It'll be a fun ride, but if nissan doesn't go FI then they might not be able to hang with the 2004 supra. I love the car as-is, but more HP never hurt anyone
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Re: Don't listen to silvrz5!
Originally posted by Track_350Z
If FI is on the way I'd prefer a supercharger anyway. The car has an awsome beefy flat torque curve. A supercharger will tend to amplifiy it rather that make it peaky like a turbo. A roots blower will be much cheaper and leass comlicated than turbo. Easily good for 350+ HP with conservative tuning. All this with an inexpensive insurance premium!
If FI is on the way I'd prefer a supercharger anyway. The car has an awsome beefy flat torque curve. A supercharger will tend to amplifiy it rather that make it peaky like a turbo. A roots blower will be much cheaper and leass comlicated than turbo. Easily good for 350+ HP with conservative tuning. All this with an inexpensive insurance premium!
The voice of the people has spoken NISMO.
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Originally posted by Daytona
Honestly, who made up this 350ZR rumor?
Honestly, who made up this 350ZR rumor?
Ahhh, those were the good old days. Nissan has really come through for us now that I think back.
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