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Old 07-10-2002, 01:03 AM
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If the 350zr is going to be the Turbo model, how many of you are going to be disappointed by the n.a. 350z. With a turbo this car will be around 350+ h.p. I really cant believe that people are buying this car site unseen( touched, sat in, driven) You might have just bought somthing that you really dont care for. I have always thought that a turbo would be down the road, even though everyone said "they want to keep the price down, just like the 240z". Hog wash!!!! they had a turbo in the 80's and the 90's....... This car will have a turbo in the future. And cost, I believe it will be only $4,ooo more than a non turbo. We will just wait and see. I myself would never buy a car that hasnt even been built yet. Hope you all get what you really want. I think it is a good thing that my current lease is due up next may is a good thing. Gives me time to see what is going to happen. A turbo 350zr sounds very nice to me......
good luck all.
Old 07-10-2002, 01:09 AM
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You are right. Most of the NA 350Z owners will be dissapointed when/if Turbo version comes out. They will feel like their car is missing something. But at the same time the novelty of driving a car which nobody has seen before wont be there. By the time the Turbo ones hit the road there wll be thousands of NA 350Zs running around the road. For most of these new owners including myself, I think the first year of driving around in this car will be most pleasurable because of the "coolness" factor.
Old 07-10-2002, 09:52 AM
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One word.

N I S M O

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Old 07-10-2002, 09:59 AM
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Tubos = turbo lag and higher insurance.

Count me out.
Old 07-10-2002, 01:11 PM
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You can considerably reduce or eliminate turbo lag by using sequential turbos. Basically you have a smaller turbo for low end and bigger turbo for high end. So once you get up there in speed then the small turbo shuts off and the bigger one takes over.
Old 07-10-2002, 02:27 PM
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I'm a big turbo fan, my last 4 cars have all been turbo, but one of the great things about a naturally aspirated car is throttle response. Sequential turbos may help (where the hell would they fit in the Z?) but you won't ever beat the throttle response of the n/a 3.5L V6.
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So, is the 350ZR and 350Z going to be the same, style-wise?? Just with a stronger engine for 350ZR.......?
Old 07-10-2002, 03:24 PM
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I'm happy. I don't like trubos. A na Z with 287+ HP is fine with me, I'm not going to be racing the car. I have owned every Z made and always loved them. There is no reason I should not love this car. If by some chance I don't like it when it arrives I don't buy it and get my mondepositey back.
Old 07-10-2002, 03:50 PM
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I don't know about turbos for such a well balanced sports car.

I'm not sure if I want that thing kicking in at 3 grand when I'm trying to control a part throttle corner and send my *** end out front. I drove a heavy Pontiac T/A with way too much torque for cornering on the street before and even with a flat torque curve (no turbo spike) it was still difficult to modulate throttle inputs particularly in mid-turn.

I like NA. If you turbocharge a Z, you will make gains in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times assuming you have enough tire out back (the stock 18s probably don't have enough surface area for 350 rwhp) but the car is going to be very different. If I was going to plunk down 5 grand for an aftermarket forced induction system I'd want to be atleast close to that lofty hp peak. I'd consider a 350Z with a stock turbo if offered but I think I'd lay off on the Nismo offering unless I knew *exactly* what I was getting in to ahead of time.

A factory offering running in the low 13s with equal or better handling/braking performance as an NA Track would convince me to spend the extra money. Not some bloated muscle car wannabe though.
Old 07-10-2002, 04:56 PM
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Red face Don't listen to silvrz5!

Originally posted by silvrz5
I myself would never buy a car that hasnt even been built yet. Hope you all get what you really want. ... Gives me time to see what is going to happen.
He is the voice of reason! Moderators where are you? LOL

Seriously though, I think we're all good with the NA Z. It's time for the GTR to hit US shores & whoop up on Vetts, Ms, Porches, Vipers and even Ferraris. I doubt they want the Z to be too close perfomance wise.

Also, Nissan realizes how huge the aftermarket is. I'm sure they have many goodies for us. JmanZ has told us all along that Nissan has tuned the VQ to ~300HP. Therefore, we have an ECU comming that should be good for 300HP or more. Not sure about the air filter. A cone will give us more air but the stock air box has an awsome CAI, almost ram type. The exhaust has high-tech equal length headers & looks like 3" diameter back to that HUGE muffler. Doubt we'll need to change that either. Maybe a light weight flywheel for more throttle response. (Remember, NISMO can also tune in more throttle response from the ECU with the servo on the throttle body.

I guess what I'm saying is that we'll all have ~300-320 HP in our new high tech FM chassis for the cost of a air intake and ECU. I call it the poor man's 911! Also, the NA VQ is probably good for 200K miles.

If FI is on the way I'd prefer a supercharger anyway. The car has an awsome beefy flat torque curve. A supercharger will tend to amplifiy it rather that make it peaky like a turbo. A roots blower will be much cheaper and leass comlicated than turbo. Easily good for 350+ HP with conservative tuning. All this with an inexpensive insurance premium!
Old 07-11-2002, 04:39 AM
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Honestly, who made up this 350ZR rumor?
Old 07-11-2002, 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by Daytona
Honestly, who made up this 350ZR rumor?
No s***!
Old 07-11-2002, 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by Track_350Z


If FI is on the way I'd prefer a supercharger anyway. The car has an awsome beefy flat torque curve. A supercharger will tend to amplifiy it rather that make it peaky like a turbo. A roots blower will be much cheaper and leass comlicated than turbo. Easily good for 350+ HP with conservative tuning. All this with an inexpensive insurance premium!
EXACTLY! Don't get me wrong, i love turbos, they're fun. But 287+ is plenty of power. I would like more, but would i want to sacrifice a flat torque curve? Simple answer: HELL NO! Give me a supercharger and i'll be content with 400hp.

The voice of the people has spoken NISMO.
Old 07-11-2002, 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Daytona
Honestly, who made up this 350ZR rumor?
Actually, the 350ZR name is factual. The rumors began back before the new Z had a name. Everyone was speculating what the name would be and someone noticed that Nissan had registered 350Z.com and 350ZR.com. As anticipated the new Z became the 350Z. Now we wait to the what the 350ZR is about. I'm sure JmanZ can verify this as he was looking to jump on a web address when the car's name was known. Thus my350z.com was born.

Ahhh, those were the good old days. Nissan has really come through for us now that I think back.
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