Hey, my birthday's in June

 

So what constitutes as a "sports coat".

Cuz shiet, I'd hate to be caught with a non-sports coat when I'm walking outside real fast.

 

According to JUN, a "sports coat" must not be "too high" or it will be a "sporty coat" and not a "sports coat".

Hope that cleared it up for you.






Too High Sporty Coat Correct Sports Coat

 

JUN Prelude is a sportscar ???

 

If Jun Hates The 350z Why Did They Build One For The Top Speed Challenge???????? Fyi Awesome Videos Of The Z Hitting 200 Mph Are Available Online... It Was Also Featured In Super Street Before The Challenge. Unfortunately The Driver Lost Control And Rolled The Z Multiple Times At Well Over 150mp. Research The Videos And The Car. It Was A Baaaaddddd Boy. A Little Too Bright For Me But Awesome Indeed.

 

Looking at their demonstration cars, only the Z IMHO even comes close to meeting a sports car classification. We might be fat and too high, but we have only two seats.

http://www.junauto.co.jp/democar/index.html?en

 

his right...

 

got to sell the car and get a honda fit. maybe this is sporty enough for jun

 

my b day is in june also

 

sorry but the miata will slaughter the Z in the twisties. u can't beat light weight and balance....u could come close with a bunch of modifications, but after everything weight is still the most important when it comes to a corner.

only advantage Z33 has over miata is at corner exits, where its torque could propell it out of the turn quicker. but the miata will have the Z at the turn-in as well as mid corner speed. a miata with a powerful engine (e.g. LS1) will absolutely destroy almost anything on the track.

i think most of u guys are takin JUN's comments waaaaay too seriously. who cares if the z33 doesn't really fit the term "sports car"...big friggin' deal.

i drive an Evo that's constantly being put down as a "shoebox with wing", "rice box", "modded lancer", etc...but none of that bothers me cuz at the end of the day I like the car because i like it, not because someone else approves it.

i'm on this board because i love the z33's. who cares what someone else thinks about it...if u like it u like it. *****ing about won't change what JUN thinks about the 350.

/rant.

 

holy hell...thanks for that clarification.

I would hate for Jun to come around and tell me my coat needs tailoring.

 

+1, yep just because it is fast by a large margin does't make it a sports car per say, albiet it is a derivitive of one. Its made a compromise that makes it a GT. I'd even say the Veyron is a GT and thats definately faster.

 

The MRS was a great sports car --- the price was a little high and they had to make enough to make a reasonable profit but

Its was 2200lbs + mid engine + RWD + 2 seats.

All it needed was a more powerful motor (which Toyota had in the GTS 190hp Celica) to be a Lotus Elise beater

Sports car = 2 Seats + RWD very simple

If you think otherwise your fooling yourself

 

A Super built Miata would get decimated by a Super Z --- when money isnt an issue power will be and a the Miata motor will reach its power limits before the Z does

At a grass roots level the Miata is a very capable performer with minimal mods but on wide open tracks where it cant rely on just handling it gets smoked without power adders like a turbo/supercharger

Big power/short wheelbase/small tires = spin cycle on a fast 100+mph circuit

As far as handling vs the Miata --- while the Z is heavier its also more stable and predictable in long sweepers and high speeds

It may not transition as fast as a Miata but most people wouldnt cone chase against a Miata in a Z

 

Term for them is Sport Sedans. I dont consider Z to be very heavy, 3200lbs is not heavy in any sports car books. Be it Ferrari, Porsche, all have sports cars with weights in the same range. Sports car icons that are trackable off the lot such as 360CS and GT3 weigh around 3000~3050lbs. Going by standards many here have set it should be considered heavy, but its not. I know the lb/Hp matters more than pure weight, but Z is no slouch.

Manual 350Z has short gear ratios, it couldnt be much better, compare it to gear ratios of M3 etc. Suspension of the FR-L/FM platform was completely redesigned to handle really well, 14 patents were applied for that design. Z's suspension although it shares with other cars, is a good design. So that is not a weakness.

Braking, 113ft for 60-0 is great and not just good.

Looking thru this thread, I didnt see any real merits to the claim people have made about some of the prejudices about the Z.

I have to agree that Z is not a low slung, low CG sports car, neither is the 911.

 

****, i thought you guys were talking about me for a second, i was like, WTF did I do??? LOL

 

I knew there was a guy here called Jun. I was waiting to see you're reaction. Always remember you by the avatar thats pretty cool. Rock on.

 

Why did you say those things about the Z???????? WTF?????

 

sorry, i was drunk, but the fact is the Z is just a sporty car...

<ducks and takes cover>




i keeeed, i keeeeed!

JUN Auto doesn't only work on forced induction cars, they also work on Civics/Integras/Celicas/MRS/etc, whoever said they only work on turbocharged cars (i think someone mentioned that).

It's basically true what they say though, the car needs more tuning, and the platform was shared across the Nissan line-up to save costs. We all know the 350z could use more power.

Ghosn saved Nissan by cutting costs, and the 350z is what it is because of it. It's what Nissan could do for the car, while saving money, without ruining the Z image. Had Nissan been doing good financially, the 350z would probably be a completely different animal (i.e. turbocharged).

This doesn't mean the Z is not a sports car, it's just not what they expected it to be, in their opinion, which is fine, everyone has their own opinion, it doesn't make them wrong or right. Their perception of what a true sports car should be is very different from what everyone else thinks.

 

Trying to be fair, not sarcastic or mad, I think that the translation of what was said could have been lacking or misunderstood.