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Old 03-04-2003 | 05:47 PM
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during a video edit session today with a Nissan dealership in my area I noticed something peculiar with Daytona Blue.

I was messing around with the hue phasing of some film footage of a Daytona Blue Z. When I hit 180 degrees out of phase I noticed the Daytona Blue Z looked EXACTLY like a LeMans Sunset Z.

I did it with a few shots and everyone was the same.... at exactly 180 degrees of phase it turns into LeMans....

would this the equivelant of a software engineers "easter egg" but from the point of view of a paint formula engineer?

check my example below.....

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Wow that's wild. I wonder what the story is behind that.
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(/SarcasmOm) But dig those blue taillights! (/SarcasmOff)

That's pretty close... showing it off to some friends the other day in the late afternoon sunshine they were swearing it was bronze if not gold-ish. I still maintain there's more red in it than would allow gold, but then, I bought a LeMans Sunset, not Gold.
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That's so Wild!
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Originally posted by 350zSpeedRacer
That's so Wild!
Actually, it's not as wild as you'd think. Being an art student with a decent amount of experience in Color Theory, I can tell you that opposites on the color wheel suit each other very well. It doesn't strike me as uncommon or wierd that an educated designer would try out the total opposite of the original color he/she was using.
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I've studied art as well, and the fact that blue is the opposite of orange isn't what got me--it's the fact that these metallic colors happened to come put as almost exact oppsoites. I wouldn't have been surprised if they decided on (for example) blue and then decided to see what an orange would look like.
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That is really cool! Nice discovery, Dr. Holmes! lol


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And to beat all [start Twilight Zone music] if you take the Super Black and 180-degree phase it, it turns into the Pikes Peak White! [end Twilight Zone music].

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please study the physics book before trying to sound smart

phase shift is describing the difference between two peaks of 2 waves, with the same wavelength. for example, 180 out of phase would be 1/2 wavelength apart.
blue and orange have totally different wave length (one at almost the end of visible spectrum, on at almost the beginning), so you can't really say they are in or out of phase......
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so if you take the 180 phase shift of a le mans sunset it should turn blue, right?
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I guess this is kinda like Michael Jackson who went from Super Black to Pike Peaks White.
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Originally posted by Kevex
please study the physics book before trying to sound smart

phase shift is describing the difference between two peaks of 2 waves, with the same wavelength. for example, 180 out of phase would be 1/2 wavelength apart.
blue and orange have totally different wave length (one at almost the end of visible spectrum, on at almost the beginning), so you can't really say they are in or out of phase......
HA!

please study video engineering before trying to outsmart the video editor.

Daytona Blue is in fact 180 degrees out of phase of LeMans when using RGB colorspace and modified with hue/chroma phasing.

NTSC video signals use 0-360 degree phasing to time colors.

I use a vectorscope (essentially an oscilliscope) which gives a representation of color on a 0-360 degree scale.

NTSC video is not processed by color wavelength.

see below... the vectorscope is on the right side.

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wow, my bad, after all, we are talking about different pahse shift....ha
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no biggie.... in a sense you were correct.... if we were talking about phasing of color wavelengths....
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Originally posted by WayneTN
And to beat all [start Twilight Zone music] if you take the Super Black and 180-degree phase it, it turns into the Pikes Peak White! [end Twilight Zone music].

WayneTN
Sorta.....

black and/or white can't be phase shifted in a vectorscope because the vectorscope only represents the color side of a video signal... since black and white are absent of color it won't work...

however... if we invert the luminance on a waveform monitor we would in fact see black turn to white.... of course, I did detect a hint of sarcasm in your post
.......

do you think for next year they'll release a 180 degree phase shift of Redline?? or Brickyard??

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that is cool... I would have never though about that unless I was messin around in photoshop
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LOL...

180 phase shift on Brickyard is an cool hunter green (very metalic). For the correct color, look at the sides where the blue sky reflection isn't turned gold. (Interesting blue side markers.)
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Originally posted by N74DV
during a video edit session today with a Nissan dealership in my area I noticed something peculiar with Daytona Blue.

I was messing around with the hue phasing of some film footage of a Daytona Blue Z. When I hit 180 degrees out of phase I noticed the Daytona Blue Z looked EXACTLY like a LeMans Sunset Z.

I did it with a few shots and everyone was the same.... at exactly 180 degrees of phase it turns into LeMans....

would this the equivelant of a software engineers "easter egg" but from the point of view of a paint formula engineer?

check my example below.....

Thats really wild...
Old 03-08-2003 | 12:11 PM
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I wonder if it is intentional BY Nissan or someone else, after all the BLUE has been VERY popular lately as has the gold/le mans color with MANY other car manuf???
Old 03-08-2003 | 06:34 PM
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I think that the LeMans is similar but the colors are still not exactly opposite of eachother. Close but I'm not seeing it exaclty. =) Then again, I am colorblind.............. j/k
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