Why does everyone talk **** bout the 350Z?
#221
Originally Posted by pyropete
Anyhow the moral to the story is mod for mod you will get more out of the RSX-S than the Z, but th Z is out of the factory about .9-1.2 seconds faster than the RSX. A modded Z with bolt ons was running low/mid 13s and the ONLY way a RSX can get tehre is eitehr spraying, or FI... END OF STORY..
#222
Originally Posted by doug
YOUR problem is you are a sheeple... sheep people.. you like to follow the flock.. and go with whatever the majority is.. my problem is that i am a car enthusiast.. i like to go with facts and abilities of performance cars..
had anyone claimed a stock RSX-S did 13's.. sure i would side with you.. but when you ignore facts and polute or knowledge with B.S. i have to stop you dead in your tracks
had anyone claimed a stock RSX-S did 13's.. sure i would side with you.. but when you ignore facts and polute or knowledge with B.S. i have to stop you dead in your tracks
lol!!!!! total we have all seen the links it is a 15 second car please understand that. I didnt follow a group of people that were all reading and copying those links I did it on my own to show the real performance of the type S. a 15 second car with lots of potential. 14.9 hats off wow truly amazing
#224
Originally Posted by doug
not sure where YOU are from.. however..
can't means can not.. which means when you use cant.. or as you put it.. it needs to have a " ' " between the n and the t ...
can't means can not.. which means when you use cant.. or as you put it.. it needs to have a " ' " between the n and the t ...
#226
How about this:
The RSX is a 15 second car. Sure, it's dipped into the 14's stock, but the majority is in the 15's. The Z can swing either way, since I've seen about the same running low 14's as running high 13's.
I guess if we use the logic that since a car ran a 14 then that makes it a 14 second car, then SRT4's are 13 second cars, STI's/STi's are 12 second cars, Evo's are 12 second cars etc.
And for the record, an i/rh/e/K-Pro RSX Type S can take a STOCK 350Z from a roll. No reason to argue it. Power to weight plays a huge roll in that.
The RSX is a 15 second car. Sure, it's dipped into the 14's stock, but the majority is in the 15's. The Z can swing either way, since I've seen about the same running low 14's as running high 13's.
I guess if we use the logic that since a car ran a 14 then that makes it a 14 second car, then SRT4's are 13 second cars, STI's/STi's are 12 second cars, Evo's are 12 second cars etc.
And for the record, an i/rh/e/K-Pro RSX Type S can take a STOCK 350Z from a roll. No reason to argue it. Power to weight plays a huge roll in that.
#227
Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
How about this:
The RSX is a 15 second car. Sure, it's dipped into the 14's stock, but the majority is in the 15's. The Z can swing either way, since I've seen about the same running low 14's as running high 13's.
I guess if we use the logic that since a car ran a 14 then that makes it a 14 second car, then SRT4's are 13 second cars, STI's/STi's are 12 second cars, Evo's are 12 second cars etc.
And for the record, an i/rh/e/K-Pro RSX Type S can take a STOCK 350Z from a roll. No reason to argue it. Power to weight plays a huge roll in that.
The RSX is a 15 second car. Sure, it's dipped into the 14's stock, but the majority is in the 15's. The Z can swing either way, since I've seen about the same running low 14's as running high 13's.
I guess if we use the logic that since a car ran a 14 then that makes it a 14 second car, then SRT4's are 13 second cars, STI's/STi's are 12 second cars, Evo's are 12 second cars etc.
And for the record, an i/rh/e/K-Pro RSX Type S can take a STOCK 350Z from a roll. No reason to argue it. Power to weight plays a huge roll in that.
#228
Just incase you guys missed it: Doug isn't necessarily defending the RSX nor arguing the fact that it goes 14/15/16 secs. (I honestly don't think he cares either way)
It's the art of argumentation/stating facts and having valid points to backup your theories. If you respond with strictly opinionated statements such as "you're dumb, stfu, ignore!" it holds no value and therefore is an invalid statement toward the main goal of your argument.
Hats off to a fellow Philosophical thinker
It's the art of argumentation/stating facts and having valid points to backup your theories. If you respond with strictly opinionated statements such as "you're dumb, stfu, ignore!" it holds no value and therefore is an invalid statement toward the main goal of your argument.
Hats off to a fellow Philosophical thinker
Last edited by abui01; 02-13-2007 at 01:29 PM.
#229
Originally Posted by 05Aucrarsx
rsx with bolts on (cams) can get low 13
Not at Sacramento Raceway... I raced my RSX EVERY WEEK when I had bolt ons, and the best I could get was low 14s. hondata/i/e/drag radials.
the stock Z would always contend with a bolt on RSX.. A bolt on to bolt on race the Z would win every time (unless he screwed the launch) Owning both cars, and racing every week I know I am right.
#230
Originally Posted by Old School
high school....haha. That should end some arguements right now. Tell AC Slater to holla at Zach and Kelly so we can race after Mr. Belding leaves Bayside. lmfao.
I'm an old honda guy. I built several. 94 HB si, 91 accord, 97 teg....some turbo, some nitrous. They are good cars, but whoever said $5k will get you in the 10s is retarded. I spent $5k just building the motor. Turbo kits for hondas ran $3k back in them days and $4k for a good kit like FMAX. I made a custom setup for my first boosted honda cuz kits were not available yet. No management available then either....just check valves and ecu hacks. Unless of course you went with electromotive or the like ($5-10Gs). This was back in 1993....and I built them up until 01. So when I hear a honda guy saying an RSX with bolt ons can beat that or beat this.....I call BS and have facts to back it up. No 18 year old can tell me sh*t cuz when I was boostin my honda....they weren't even in elementary school....that's right...I was installing a turbo on my D series....yes D series ppl (no motor swaps back then).....and the young bucks were watching barney. lmfao.
About a year later....ZC swaps were getting popular. DOHC 1.6L non-vtec. Then the B series in the civics came next...then the H22s...and now the K series motors. Same sh*t, different year. And for all you clowns who claim VTEC....most cars now-a-days have some form of variable valve timing.....so VTEC is no longer exclusive to honda. Everyone has it...they just call it something different. So go blow a cam.
I'm an old honda guy. I built several. 94 HB si, 91 accord, 97 teg....some turbo, some nitrous. They are good cars, but whoever said $5k will get you in the 10s is retarded. I spent $5k just building the motor. Turbo kits for hondas ran $3k back in them days and $4k for a good kit like FMAX. I made a custom setup for my first boosted honda cuz kits were not available yet. No management available then either....just check valves and ecu hacks. Unless of course you went with electromotive or the like ($5-10Gs). This was back in 1993....and I built them up until 01. So when I hear a honda guy saying an RSX with bolt ons can beat that or beat this.....I call BS and have facts to back it up. No 18 year old can tell me sh*t cuz when I was boostin my honda....they weren't even in elementary school....that's right...I was installing a turbo on my D series....yes D series ppl (no motor swaps back then).....and the young bucks were watching barney. lmfao.
About a year later....ZC swaps were getting popular. DOHC 1.6L non-vtec. Then the B series in the civics came next...then the H22s...and now the K series motors. Same sh*t, different year. And for all you clowns who claim VTEC....most cars now-a-days have some form of variable valve timing.....so VTEC is no longer exclusive to honda. Everyone has it...they just call it something different. So go blow a cam.
Last edited by ventuli; 02-13-2007 at 01:37 PM.
#231
Originally Posted by pyropete
Not at Sacramento Raceway... I raced my RSX EVERY WEEK when I had bolt ons, and the best I could get was low 14s. hondata/i/e/drag radials.
the stock Z would always contend with a bolt on RSX.. A bolt on to bolt on race the Z would win every time (unless he screwed the launch) Owning both cars, and racing every week I know I am right.
the stock Z would always contend with a bolt on RSX.. A bolt on to bolt on race the Z would win every time (unless he screwed the launch) Owning both cars, and racing every week I know I am right.
did u miss the part where i say cam?
#232
lol at all this defending of the Z, im not here o bash the Z because its a great car but the discussion here is if an rsx TYPE S can hit 14s stock and yes, even more so in 05-06s can a stock rsx-s take a 350z? NO lol guys hold onto your ***** please <3
#233
Originally Posted by 05Aucrarsx
hondata reflash or k-pro?
did u miss the part where i say cam?
did u miss the part where i say cam?
I was old school.. This was 2003-2004 when I had my RSX.. It was a reflash (#4). I didn't get the kpro until I got the turbo put in.
Seriously though, this is the Sacramento Raceway we are talking about here.... When I was turbo I would be consistant low 13s. Got within a tenth of a second from the 12s, ther was NO bolt on RSX even coming close to low 13s. I think the best one was that guy who totally gutted his car, put on slicks, totally did an engine rebuild and ran a 13.1, but that was not an RSX, it was like a shell almost. The best people ran with just bolt ons whenever I was there racing was the high 13s low 14s.
The stock Zs were always hittin the high 13s low 14s. light modded mid to high 13s and medium to heavy n/a would be low 13s. It was no contest. If a Z is modded it will beat a modded RSX.
#234
Originally Posted by kyoeyes
lol at all this defending of the Z, im not here o bash the Z because its a great car but the discussion here is if an rsx TYPE S can hit 14s stock and yes, even more so in 05-06s can a stock rsx-s take a 350z? NO lol guys hold onto your ***** please <3
The Z can hit 14s easy on a bad run stock. low 14s is a bad run... high 13s is a good run. The Z is about a second faster stock for stock.
#237
This is turning in to hondatech here. Why do we just get down to what's everyone seems to keep asking.
1. can a stock RSX type s beat a stock Z? (A base RSX is not even close cause a K20a2 sucks big time)
2. can a moded RSX type s beat a stock Z?
3. Can a moded RSX type s beat a moded Z?
those seem to be the main ones I keep reading over and over again. So get to post up the answers.
1. can a stock RSX type s beat a stock Z? (A base RSX is not even close cause a K20a2 sucks big time)
2. can a moded RSX type s beat a stock Z?
3. Can a moded RSX type s beat a moded Z?
those seem to be the main ones I keep reading over and over again. So get to post up the answers.
#239
Originally Posted by 350-hold-the-z
quit the *****ing between 350z's and your stupid honduhs
cant match my ****in chevy *****es
cant match my ****in chevy *****es
#240
Originally Posted by ventuli
This is turning in to hondatech here. Why do we just get down to what's everyone seems to keep asking.
1. can a stock RSX type s beat a stock Z? (A base RSX is not even close cause a K20a2 sucks big time)
2. can a moded RSX type s beat a stock Z?
3. Can a moded RSX type s beat a moded Z?
those seem to be the main ones I keep reading over and over again. So get to post up the answers.
1. can a stock RSX type s beat a stock Z? (A base RSX is not even close cause a K20a2 sucks big time)
2. can a moded RSX type s beat a stock Z?
3. Can a moded RSX type s beat a moded Z?
those seem to be the main ones I keep reading over and over again. So get to post up the answers.
But in case you missed it...
1. No
2. Yes
3. Depends