what's the differance??
Originally Posted by marques1
This is the difference and it confuses people because the 6mt has 2 buttons one for tcs and a seperate button for vdc. it is evident that it has both well the touring 5at is the only other car that get both but it isn't evident because it only has one button which says tcs on it but it overides both the vdc and tcs why nissan did this i have no clue.
Cars with VDC + TCS get a VDC button that overrides both.
Cars with TCS get a TCS button.
If I'm wrong I don't mind being corrected, but I'm 99% sure about my statements above.
Yeah know problem and your qoute is funny as hell "according to the street forum, we got guys in stock z's outrunnning vipers, z06, f1 and sound waves" that is some funny ****.
yeah anxious you are correct but the whole point is that we were trying to explain to z04 that 5at do have both in the touring he said no 5at has vdc just traction and that the 6mt could have both depending on the mode..
Originally Posted by marques1
sorry braham im talking to z04 he is wrong and has no clue what he is talking about when it comes to this topic. I wrote the wrong name in when i looked back up to sorry bro, yeah z04 has no clue what he is talking about that is for sure you are correct.
Last edited by Z04; Feb 16, 2007 at 09:54 AM.
Originally Posted by marques1
yeah anxious you are correct but the whole point is that we were trying to explain to z04 that 5at do have both in the touring he said no 5at has vdc just traction and that the 6mt could have both depending on the mode..
reading comprehension >you. 5AT never had VDC, no matter what model it is. that is what i said. if you got a manual touring, you got TCS and VDC. the 5AT does not have VDC. at least the 2004 model did not. and yes, the 6MT has both, but not in the base model, which has neither of those features. just like the 5AT touring models only came with the 17" wheels
Last edited by Z04; Feb 16, 2007 at 09:45 AM.
I think everyone is closer to agreeing than they realize. It's just tough to read a paragraph with years/trims/options and decipher things.
Post #24 makes total sense to me.
Post #24 makes total sense to me.
Originally Posted by Z04
reading comprehension >you. 5AT never had VDC, no matter what model it is. that is what i said. if you got a manual touring, you got TCS and VDC. the 5AT does not have VDC. at least the 2004 model did not. and yes, the 6MT has both, but not in the base model, which has neither of those features. just like the 5AT touring models only came with the 17" wheels
I am 99.999% sure I have an 03 AT with TCS and VDC. Brochures are not always right man, if you look at the small print it has to say somewhere that the specs are subject to change.
even the new Z lists only the MT as having VDC. so Nissan is wrong or people do not know a thing at all about the car they drive, they just want to believe what they want to (or what the salesperson told them). eitherway, believe what you want i can read what it says in black and white, and unless someone else comes in and verifies they have a 2003-2005 touring 5AT with both VDC and TCS, i will go with what Nissan says
http://www.nissanusa.com/z/specifications_coupe.html
http://www.nissanusa.com/z/specifications_coupe.html
Originally Posted by Z04
oh i know that. but you show me where a 5AT has VDC, then you can call my statement incorrect
Originally Posted by Z04
5AT never had VDC, no matter what model it is. that is what i said.
(note "P" as in park next to VDC off)
Originally Posted by ANXIOUZ
Cars with VDC + TCS get a VDC button that overrides both.
Cars with TCS get a TCS button.
Last edited by Paul350Z; Feb 16, 2007 at 12:46 PM.
Originally Posted by Z04
even the new Z lists only the MT as having VDC. so Nissan is wrong or people do not know a thing at all about the car they drive, they just want to believe what they want to (or what the salesperson told them). eitherway, believe what you want i can read what it says in black and white, and unless someone else comes in and verifies they have a 2003-2005 touring 5AT with both VDC and TCS, i will go with what Nissan says
http://www.nissanusa.com/z/specifications_coupe.html
http://www.nissanusa.com/z/specifications_coupe.html
Originally Posted by Paul350Z
I'll take Nissan is wrong for $36,500.00 Alex.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ynamic+control
*EDIT* i found out why, read this post made a while back from searching:
Originally Posted by Aggro_Al
35th Anniversary 5AT Z does have VDC.
TCS on both the 5AT & 6MT can control the throttle.
In addition TCS on the 5AT can control gear shift, shift point, shift speed and torque management. The 5AT is continually monitoring driving environment and the driver input and can adapt to what the driver or changing conditions.
Both 5AT and 6MT have lots of driving nannies even without VDC.
Except for the 35th Anniversary Z, the 5AT won't correct for oversteer and understeer but the there are a lot of controls built into the transmission and into TCS that will help prevent or help the driver manually recover. The automatic yaw correction is the only thing that is really missing. It would be nice to have it as an option on the regular 5AT but it's not that big of a loss since they replaced it with more controls to help prevent, maintain and recover manually. Some might even consider it an advantage.
I'm just speculating but I think that they added VDC to the G35 because of marketing reasons and not really for performance reasons or a significant increase in safrty. If you look at the cars that compete against the G35 they all come with stability control. Most people are unaware of just how advanced the Nissan 5AT is and will overlook that. What they will see is a car without automatic yaw correction and that would be a major negative in their mind when in reality it is very little.
TCS on both the 5AT & 6MT can control the throttle.
In addition TCS on the 5AT can control gear shift, shift point, shift speed and torque management. The 5AT is continually monitoring driving environment and the driver input and can adapt to what the driver or changing conditions.
Both 5AT and 6MT have lots of driving nannies even without VDC.
Except for the 35th Anniversary Z, the 5AT won't correct for oversteer and understeer but the there are a lot of controls built into the transmission and into TCS that will help prevent or help the driver manually recover. The automatic yaw correction is the only thing that is really missing. It would be nice to have it as an option on the regular 5AT but it's not that big of a loss since they replaced it with more controls to help prevent, maintain and recover manually. Some might even consider it an advantage.
I'm just speculating but I think that they added VDC to the G35 because of marketing reasons and not really for performance reasons or a significant increase in safrty. If you look at the cars that compete against the G35 they all come with stability control. Most people are unaware of just how advanced the Nissan 5AT is and will overlook that. What they will see is a car without automatic yaw correction and that would be a major negative in their mind when in reality it is very little.
so a "reular" touring 5AT would not have this.
but if i am crazy, then i got fcked with my 2004 that only has TCS, since it seems others out there got something different than i got, which seems to make you "special"
but paul, yours is correct, and i was wrong about the 35th (actually forgot about it)
Last edited by Z04; Feb 16, 2007 at 01:13 PM.
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