Is a Z w/ any other engine still really a Z??
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03-26-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sean1967
when I put a vette engine in a camaro I didn't get to rebadge the sides.....to me, the frame makes the car, a VW based kit car is still a VW, a 240 is not a skyline and an RSX is still faster. 
I agree its a Z no matter whats under the hood.
03-26-2007, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ravensaxe
Why not, thats like saying an old camaro with a bigger engine isn't really a camaro.
Bottom line is, your car is nothing more than the sum of its PARTZ!!
03-26-2007, 05:13 PM
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I say if you change engines it is still the car it was before. If you took a 4cyl Mustang and put a v8 from the same year and put it in would you say it is no longer a Mustang? I'd say it is still a Mustang. Car companies use their engines in as many cars as possible.
Doing a swap or mods doesn't make it a 350z anymore, it makes it your car.
Doing a swap or mods doesn't make it a 350z anymore, it makes it your car.
03-26-2007, 07:42 PM
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It depends if you know what a Scarab is......................
V8 powered Z or at least that's what the early model Z's are called, ie, 240, 260, 280. I know quite a few friends that race in their Scarab's and go extremely quickly.
V8 powered Z or at least that's what the early model Z's are called, ie, 240, 260, 280. I know quite a few friends that race in their Scarab's and go extremely quickly.
03-26-2007, 07:53 PM
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Does a Z's engine have THAT much charector?
A Z is a Z cuase of:
1. Deisgn
2. Price/bargain
3. F/R
The VQ (in other forms) has been around for a while. The chassis is, well, lets not get into that.
A Z is a Z cuase of:
1. Deisgn
2. Price/bargain
3. F/R
The VQ (in other forms) has been around for a while. The chassis is, well, lets not get into that.
03-26-2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cali_z_owner
Bottom line is, your car is nothing more than the sum of its PARTZ!!
We gotta remember that in the enthusiast world we step into modifications, a modification doesn't necessarily make it a different car.
Something else to consider, the GT500 Z has high performance Z PARTS in it that were specifically designed for the Z. I consider that still a Z.
I'm sided towards the chassis part of the debate, but let's just say it makes more sense to designate it as what it ORGINALLY came out as (a Z) and call it a "[Car A] with a [Car B]'s [part]".
03-26-2007, 08:10 PM
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A Z is a Z because of heritage, everyone recognizes and admires Z's whether 240, 260, 280, 300, 350 or maybe even 380 (ehh??). I dont think it matters throw whatever in mine vq35de, vq35hr, VK45de, or even an rb26 (although I think everyone knows which i would pick )
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03-26-2007, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by vince1611
I would say that the gt500 350z is definitely not a Z any more. Not only becuase of the engine, but also because it uses a lightweight tube-frame chassis, has hugely different aurodynamic properties, and a completely different suspension geometry. To some degree our cars only "look" like their car.
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03-27-2007, 06:02 AM
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It's simple. It's still a Z, b/c even Z's have had different engines over the years. Would a 280ZX w/ a VQ35DE still be a Z? It has a Z engine, but not the engine it was designed for.
It's just not stock. That's like saying that if you modified a VQ (say swapped crank, pistons, rods, heads, etc.) then it's no longer a VQ once you've modified it.
It's just not stock. That's like saying that if you modified a VQ (say swapped crank, pistons, rods, heads, etc.) then it's no longer a VQ once you've modified it.
03-27-2007, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmyloose
soo.... Nissan, the manufacturer, calls their race cars Z's, and they are 'definitely not a Z any more'
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03-27-2007, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmyloose
So the GT500 JGTC cars with the VK45de's are not true Z's?
I would conjecture that indeed, they are.
They are probably the most pure to the ethos of a Z car anyways. In a sense, the glorious production car we all own is just a castrated version of the JGTC car.
I would conjecture that indeed, they are.
They are probably the most pure to the ethos of a Z car anyways. In a sense, the glorious production car we all own is just a castrated version of the JGTC car.
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03-27-2007, 10:43 AM
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I agree on that one. I mean the engine itself is a large part of the Z but say if I also replace the axles with GT-R axles and replace the windshield with a GT-R Windshield (theoretically making it fit) would it be a GT-R? Or just a modded Z?
We gotta remember that in the enthusiast world we step into modifications, a modification doesn't necessarily make it a different car.
Something else to consider, the GT500 Z has high performance Z PARTS in it that were specifically designed for the Z. I consider that still a Z.
I'm sided towards the chassis part of the debate, but let's just say it makes more sense to designate it as what it ORGINALLY came out as (a Z) and call it a "[Car A] with a [Car B]'s [part]".
We gotta remember that in the enthusiast world we step into modifications, a modification doesn't necessarily make it a different car.
Something else to consider, the GT500 Z has high performance Z PARTS in it that were specifically designed for the Z. I consider that still a Z.
I'm sided towards the chassis part of the debate, but let's just say it makes more sense to designate it as what it ORGINALLY came out as (a Z) and call it a "[Car A] with a [Car B]'s [part]".
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