AT vs MT
Originally Posted by gothchick
Question: Why do we almost never see FI (Forced Induction) Z's / G's with AT?
Answer: They do not hold up to HP gains nearly as well as MT.
Answer: They do not hold up to HP gains nearly as well as MT.
https://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840-top-25-1-4-mile-times-for-tt-st-supercharger-nitrous-bolt-ons-stock.html
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Originally Posted by MulhollandDrive
The first problem with AT on the Z is the d**m electronics which do not let you pre load the drivetrain by stepping on the brake and gas at the same time prior to launch. So you would need some kind of brake light cut off switch or wire up your own brake light harness for street use. The second problem with the AT is that it may not be quick enough on a FI car so that the engine hits the rev limiter before it can shift, but this can be fixed also.
IMHO with a stock Z the stick shift can be quicker to 60, but the AT is more consistent. As horsepower increases, the efficiency advantage of MT decreases and the consistency advantages of AT prevail. With FI the problem is too much power on launch with MT OR AT, so that practice is the determining factor.
For the twisties I would take the MT. For stop and go traffic I would go with the AT.
IMHO with a stock Z the stick shift can be quicker to 60, but the AT is more consistent. As horsepower increases, the efficiency advantage of MT decreases and the consistency advantages of AT prevail. With FI the problem is too much power on launch with MT OR AT, so that practice is the determining factor.
For the twisties I would take the MT. For stop and go traffic I would go with the AT.
I use to drive MT with my previous cars for over 9 yrs, I recently switch to a 05 AT5, I have no regrets and I enjoy it...so everything has a trade off, nothing is really better than the other. It all depence on your needs and how you see it.
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Originally Posted by z-u-later
Obviously a noob . . . here's a thread that may educate you. The two fastest 1/4 mile times are Zs with an after-market A/T:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840
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Originally Posted by lilquazyvietboi
MT u can stay at the power band whenever the VVT kicks in... 5k-7k rpm? so the car will always have power whenever u step on the gas. much quicker response than to wait like 1 sec for the AT to downshift when u slam on gas.
with an AT it downshifts to the lowest gear. so if u play on the street or highway with turns and traffic... AT = lose cause they shift like chickens w/o a head.
tiptronic is for drag racing... if u plan on going to the drag strip like every week, well... i guess AT works best for u. why do you want to be a professional drag racer in a Z? u are going to lose to ALOT of people.
AT is also for people that drives like a grandma and cant multitask.
Z is for the drift, the slide, the control. that's where the Z excels, so why not get a stick?
with an AT it downshifts to the lowest gear. so if u play on the street or highway with turns and traffic... AT = lose cause they shift like chickens w/o a head.
tiptronic is for drag racing... if u plan on going to the drag strip like every week, well... i guess AT works best for u. why do you want to be a professional drag racer in a Z? u are going to lose to ALOT of people.
AT is also for people that drives like a grandma and cant multitask.
Z is for the drift, the slide, the control. that's where the Z excels, so why not get a stick?
What a fcukin tool. You actually think the variable valve timing kicks in at 5-7krpm? Go back to driving hondas u newb. And your last comment...I am not even gonna get into that.
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Just looking at the 1/4 mile times, there seems to be only a .1 second in difference between the AT and MT. Unless all those times are fake? Which I highly doubt. So I don't know, It's all about personal preference, drive whatever the hell makes you happy, because either way, you're still driving one hell of a car in the 350z
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Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
What a fcukin tool. You actually think the variable valve timing kicks in at 5-7krpm? Go back to driving hondas u newb. And your last comment...I am not even gonna get into that.
Glad someone else shares my opinion on this douche.
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Originally Posted by shanki456
Just looking at the 1/4 mile times, there seems to be only a .1 second in difference between the AT and MT. Unless all those times are fake? Which I highly doubt. So I don't know, It's all about personal preference, drive whatever the hell makes you happy, because either way, you're still driving one hell of a car in the 350z
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Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
You should have searched before you start a AT vs MT thread. They always turn like this. And you are right, AT or 6spd, a Z is a Z. End of story.
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i dunno i destroyed every auto z i raced vs my 6speed manual i think its a huge difference and for the guy sayin he has no delay on his downshift with his automatic he never driven a manual i can downshift 3 gears the time ur auto does one i drove my freinds 06 auto z several times his first gear felt like my second gear i was really unimpressed car felt alot slower dont do it
the manula is alot faster dont get the auto save the auto for the lil girls
the manula is alot faster dont get the auto save the auto for the lil girls
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Originally Posted by infamous350
i dunno i destroyed every auto z i raced vs my 6speed manual i think its a huge difference and for the guy sayin he has no delay on his downshift with his automatic he never driven a manual i can downshift 3 gears the time ur auto does one i drove my freinds 06 auto z several times his first gear felt like my second gear i was really unimpressed car felt alot slower dont do it
the manula is alot faster dont get the auto save the auto for the lil girls
the manula is alot faster dont get the auto save the auto for the lil girls
What makes us think he can read? He does not even know how to use proper punctuation. Well, from all his cyber bragging, maybe he thinks he's such a "nacho" man that he can get away with it.
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Originally Posted by infamous350
i dunno i destroyed every auto z i raced vs my 6speed manual i think its a huge difference and for the guy sayin he has no delay on his downshift with his automatic he never driven a manual i can downshift 3 gears the time ur auto does one i drove my freinds 06 auto z several times his first gear felt like my second gear i was really unimpressed car felt alot slower dont do it
the manula is alot faster dont get the auto save the auto for the lil girls
the manula is alot faster dont get the auto save the auto for the lil girls
If you are referring to me then I said that the auto downshifts pretty quickly in tiptronic mode.
What do you mean by "he never driven a manual??" I am British FFS! I started driving stick shift when I was 13.
"Save the auto for lil girls".
Kids!
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Not long ago the MT had many advantages over the AT. With all the latest and greatest technology, that is no longer the case. Performance wise, AT's are right on par or slightly better than the MT in most cases.
And yes...........I have owned and driven MANY MT's. And all you young 'uns that think you're special because you can drive a newer MT have no clue. The MT's of old were down right brutal at times.
And yes...........I have owned and driven MANY MT's. And all you young 'uns that think you're special because you can drive a newer MT have no clue. The MT's of old were down right brutal at times.
you should just buy a Z and call it a day and be grateful because some people don't even have money to buy a car to transport them around, and here you guys are arguing about which transmission is better ...
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Originally Posted by chriskabobbers
you should just buy a Z and call it a day and be grateful because some people don't even have money to buy a car to transport them around, and here you guys are arguing about which transmission is better ...