Nearly Crashed! Perhaps even died!
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Ok...there's so much wrong with this it's not even funny.
First, you have a RWD car with minimal computer assistance in terms of traction. You don't drive 60+ when the roads are wet from freshly fallen rain.
Second, having two different types of tires between front and back is never a good idea.
Third, you have uneven tire wear in the rear and did nothing about it? Even on my FWD Maxima, when I noticed one of my tires wore uneven, I threw it out and bought a new one.
You're lucky to be alive, friend. But at the same time, this accident was your own fault. Order a matching set of tires, and take it easy on wet roads. Even I keep my speed around 45MPH, and my tires are practically brand new with 9/32.
First, you have a RWD car with minimal computer assistance in terms of traction. You don't drive 60+ when the roads are wet from freshly fallen rain.
Second, having two different types of tires between front and back is never a good idea.
Third, you have uneven tire wear in the rear and did nothing about it? Even on my FWD Maxima, when I noticed one of my tires wore uneven, I threw it out and bought a new one.
You're lucky to be alive, friend. But at the same time, this accident was your own fault. Order a matching set of tires, and take it easy on wet roads. Even I keep my speed around 45MPH, and my tires are practically brand new with 9/32.
Arnold K. has some good points there. Consider this experience a lesson to be learned. I always say education is expensive and looks to me that you just got off very easy with no damage to yourself and the car. I don't want to be a douch, just wanted to mention that. Thankfully, you're OK and hopefully you'll be more careful in the future.
As a side note, I always wondered how well TCS and VSC work and maybe conditions like this make the weakness of those systems come out. As I see it, they react to some conditions and GUESS what should happen next and they do it. If you guess, you'll guess wrong and things can get hairy. Human brain > TCS & VSC. I much rather have the control and not rely on a machine to do the work for me. This is my case though. Those systems are in place because many drivers need them so that they don't kill themselves while driving a car like the Z.
Again, thank god you're fine. Learn from this and drive safely.
As a side note, I always wondered how well TCS and VSC work and maybe conditions like this make the weakness of those systems come out. As I see it, they react to some conditions and GUESS what should happen next and they do it. If you guess, you'll guess wrong and things can get hairy. Human brain > TCS & VSC. I much rather have the control and not rely on a machine to do the work for me. This is my case though. Those systems are in place because many drivers need them so that they don't kill themselves while driving a car like the Z.
Again, thank god you're fine. Learn from this and drive safely.
Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Ok...there's so much wrong with this it's not even funny.
First, you have a RWD car with minimal computer assistance in terms of traction. You don't drive 60+ when the roads are wet from freshly fallen rain.
Second, having two different types of tires between front and back is never a good idea.
Third, you have uneven tire wear in the rear and did nothing about it? Even on my FWD Maxima, when I noticed one of my tires wore uneven, I threw it out and bought a new one.
You're lucky to be alive, friend. But at the same time, this accident was your own fault. Order a matching set of tires, and take it easy on wet roads. Even I keep my speed around 45MPH, and my tires are practically brand new with 9/32.
First, you have a RWD car with minimal computer assistance in terms of traction. You don't drive 60+ when the roads are wet from freshly fallen rain.
Second, having two different types of tires between front and back is never a good idea.
Third, you have uneven tire wear in the rear and did nothing about it? Even on my FWD Maxima, when I noticed one of my tires wore uneven, I threw it out and bought a new one.
You're lucky to be alive, friend. But at the same time, this accident was your own fault. Order a matching set of tires, and take it easy on wet roads. Even I keep my speed around 45MPH, and my tires are practically brand new with 9/32.
Glad your alive dude. If you haven't replaced those rears yet do it on Monday. You got lucky.
Originally Posted by Z1NONLY
I live in SW Florida, where we get a lot of rain. I drive a company vehicle about 150 miles/day and would not recommend doing 45mph on any of our highways. If you can't drive with the flow of traffic, pull off the road and wait for conditions to improve. The bottleneck that happens behind slow cars on the highway is very dangerous, as people stuck behind the slow car try to get into the next lane that is pouring by 25mph faster than the slow car they are stuck behind.
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Originally Posted by davidv
Driving in a straight line, I don't see how it is possible to get the rear to swerve.
Originally Posted by VENOMSZ
I hear alot about the fishtailing in wet weather,
do you have a spoiler? I have a NISMO spoiler,
and have not had that problem.
do you have a spoiler? I have a NISMO spoiler,
and have not had that problem.
OP-crazy story, glad your ok...
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Ok...there's so much wrong with this it's not even funny.
First, you have a RWD car with minimal computer assistance in terms of traction. You don't drive 60+ when the roads are wet from freshly fallen rain.
Second, having two different types of tires between front and back is never a good idea.
Third, you have uneven tire wear in the rear and did nothing about it? Even on my FWD Maxima, when I noticed one of my tires wore uneven, I threw it out and bought a new one.
You're lucky to be alive, friend. But at the same time, this accident was your own fault. Order a matching set of tires, and take it easy on wet roads. Even I keep my speed around 45MPH, and my tires are practically brand new with 9/32.
First, you have a RWD car with minimal computer assistance in terms of traction. You don't drive 60+ when the roads are wet from freshly fallen rain.
Second, having two different types of tires between front and back is never a good idea.
Third, you have uneven tire wear in the rear and did nothing about it? Even on my FWD Maxima, when I noticed one of my tires wore uneven, I threw it out and bought a new one.
You're lucky to be alive, friend. But at the same time, this accident was your own fault. Order a matching set of tires, and take it easy on wet roads. Even I keep my speed around 45MPH, and my tires are practically brand new with 9/32.
looks like God was with ya. just to remind you that people die in traffic fatalities quite often. any one of our "numbers" could be called out at any time. live your life to the fullest.
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Well that's where you're wrong. First off, our speed limit is 50, anyways. And when it rains heavily, almost everyone slows down to the limit or just below it. So believe me, I'm not inconveniencing anyone.
But as I have stated before, I drove in the rain with the rear stock potenzas nearly bald and NEVER had anything close to this problem. Well needless to say Im more saftey oriented now.
(BTW if you go 45 mph on 6-10 the rain will be the least of your problems. If a cop doesnt get you, Im sure an 18 wheeler goin 70-75 will)
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Originally Posted by IX R3VAN XI
(BTW if you go 45 mph on 6-10 the rain will be the least of your problems. If a cop doesnt get you, Im sure an 18 wheeler goin 70-75 will)
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Originally Posted by urmystlkal
This man speaks the truth. 70mph on the freeways here is slow, lol
haha and those 18 wheelers drive the same no matter what the weather condition is! Thats why there are so many d**n 18 wheeler related accidents here 
And you have no idea how many times Ive been cruising along at 70 and have soccer moms flying past me or old beat up honda's pushin 80 and 90
Originally Posted by IX R3VAN XI
What I THINK happened was the brakes locked up and there was absolutely nothing I could do at that point,
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Originally Posted by lightner22
Not trying to be a d!ck, but why were you on the brakes? Glad you made it out ok.
Originally Posted by IX R3VAN XI
I wasnt, just that TCS locks them up whenever I do lil mini slides. I just think they locked up because thats usually what happens when my Z goes sideways in wet weather.
Oh ok. The ABS should prevent it from locking up, but weirder things have happened.
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Originally Posted by lightner22
Oh ok. The ABS should prevent it from locking up, but weirder things have happened.
Originally Posted by IX R3VAN XI
I wasnt, just that TCS locks them up whenever I do lil mini slides. I just think they locked up because thats usually what happens when my Z goes sideways in wet weather.
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Originally Posted by Reyes_USN
glad youre alive..yeah I hear its raining cats and dogs where youre at. Lesson learned hopefully, uneven traction plus rain = disaster