and once you get a nasty one that hits through your clear bra it will stick out like a sore thumb. not to mention people are having problems with them yellowing over time.

 

Wrong. It's true that nissan has poor clear and thin paint. You can't detail a car that has rock chipped to hell. Trust me, i have a stock bumper in the shed. I used plenty aggressive polishs with the PC, won't work. I had to get my hood and a new bumper and it's holding up stronger than ever.

 

Basically a stock Z has a fairly flatish front, so you would expect a few stone/rock chips. But I know what you mean OP.

 

Well, I am an attorney, although I don't practice in this area (not even sure what area it is really - I do anti-trust & IP). I am kind of having a hard time thinking of what the "cause of action" would be. I also wouldn't be surprised if Nissan has either expressly or impliedly disclaimed any responsibility (in the contract for sale) for paint other than latent defects. Again, not an expert, but my feeling on this would be that it is "buyer beware".

 

ding ding ding, you said it..older cars. In the last 10 years paint has gone to hell from every automaker. Hell, look at dodges...I'v seen more dodge truck owners with 05+ having paint literally flake off than I have fingers and toes. GM cars...aweful paint as well. 20,000 miles on my Vibe and I had it repainted. Everyone has the problem...cheap paint to save $$. Get yourself a $300 clear bra and save yourself some trouble.

 

If your bumper is that bad get it fixed then slap on the clear bra problem solved.Taking legal action on a bad clear coat and paint would be more of a headache than victory.

 

I am sure Nissan would love for this to be your last vehicle. if you seriously cannot accept responsibility for rock chips and sand blasting effect from typical driving conditions, especially highway, they it is best you move on to another vehicle. if you are so concerned with the paint, why did you not take any steps to prevent chips? something like a clear bra, less driving, or best yet....don't get something your so worried about.

no hate here, just some things to think about.

 

FYI, all cars these days have thin paint due to newer enviromental standards. Get it repainted and get a clear bra.

 

Actually I see a ton of Toyota owners and Lexus owners complaining about their paint as well. The only cars that have good paint these days are German cars.

 

LOL! That is because the paint process changed and materials due to enviroment regulations! Back in 91-94 cars had better paint jobs. In 1995 is when they started to change.

 

Actually some are more transparent than others and are not yellow. 3M ones are yellow. But I have had many things hit clear bras I have had in the past, and they protected pretty much everything that hit.

 

I dont see what the problem is?
I think Nissan's paint is very good compared to some other companies as well as their sheetmetal.

Look at some of the Honda's/Acuras. You can see the orange peel from the factory and the paint is paper thin. You sneeze and you can dent an Integra fender thats for sure.

 

I have always wondered why primer is not tinted the same color as the finish paint? I know it would cost more due to the tint and less efficiency in the manufacturing process, but they use white primer for my SB and apparently black primer for the PPW. WTF? None of my chips go through the primer, if the primer was black, the chips would not show nearly as much.

 

Acura's have better paint than Honda does. My old TL had no orange peel at all. My RL has none either. And the RL is wet sanded at the factory with extra thick paint per the specs on the car.

 

I know the higher end ones do. Integras paint was bleh. I had a few of them.
Less paint to save on weight. lol

 

yeah, toyota paint is no "He-Man" that's for sure... there's quite a few Toyota "colors" that are actually just primer with a clearcoat... go drive ANY of their "shades" of white and you'll see what I mean... it scratches so easy and when it does.... to the metal... obviously... b/c there's only two layers... total rip off if you ask me... be happy there's nothing like that on a 350Z

 

We have a 2004 Toyota Matrix with 38+k and the front looks almost new, very few rock chips, and def not anything close to what my Z @ 20k looks like. The paint on the z is by far the thinest I've ever seen on a new car; watercolors would have been thicker! I've owned a black 96 Hyundai Elantra wagon which I bought new and its paint held up better than the z with 80k on it!

I don't know how a class action lawsuit works but I do feel Nissan needs to warranty this paint longer since it is so damn thin and non-durable to the smallest of road debris.

 

Thanks for your input. I know paint is one of the items explicitly excluded in the warranty. I'm looking at this as a defective product.

 

I know, but I'm thinking of all the people that are affected by this. I just don't think it's right that we're having our cars trashed in such a short perioid of time.

 

I thought they started using the crappy waterborne paints back in the 80s. Maybe I'm mistaken.