The S runs a 13.4 with a pretty good driver.. ( seen this happen ) porsche has great top end.. the regular cayman however is slow.

 

I'd take a Cayman S over a Z any time of the week. My Z feels heavy and clumsy compared to a Boxster S, I can't imagine how it must be in the Cayman S. Screw straight lines.

 

Anyone want to compare maintenance costs between the Z and the Cayman. If you think you are paying a high price to purchase a P, just wait until you start getting the maintenance bills.

 

No way a 350Z will be able to get a Cayman S. I have two friends, one with a '04 350Z 6MT and the other has a base '07 Boxster 5MT (which is practically the same thing as a base Cayman). Both are great drivers. The Boxster was able to out accelerate the 350Z at higher speeds easily. At low speeds the 350Z had more torque and could pull two car lengths to the Boxster, but reaching 70-90mph, the Boxster was already coming back and passing him. The Cayman S will destroy a 350Z, maybe if it is a 2007 they might keep up at low speeds. Remember that most Porsche drivers are old people or people who don't regularly race, don't underestimate them. We were shocked at the results. But the Cayman and the Boxster are considerably lighter and aerodynamic. Here is the video:

http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...35433255287964

 

[QUOTE=VQZ33_Jake]Edmunds gave these specs for the '07 350Z for comparison:
0 - 30 (sec): 1.9
0 - 45 (sec): 3.4
0 - 60 (sec): 5.1
0 - 75 (sec): 7.5
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.6 @ 103.0
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 109

Very close in 0-60 performance, however a little slower in the quarter mile. You have to make sure that when you are taking magazine specs you do so from the same publication. They have a tendency to be a much closer comparison than taking numbers from one and comparing it to a different publication or track slips from so and so. But yes, overall straight line performance wise the Cayman is not noticably better.

 

my friend at the gym just bought a red caymen S. he loves it. ...but it cost him 70k..definately other cars i would buy for that price range. It should be better than a z for the price. I think price to performance ratio the z is better but as a whole a better car,i think the caymen s but it should be for the price. If I had 70K I would buy an 08 vette with 430+hp stock for 45-55k and smoke most porsches and then mod that beast and smoke tons of other cars.

 

for sure...or just pay the 70k for the Z06 Vette with 505 hp and 426 LB TQ...but if i had 70k no way i would buy a chevy...i would make a nice down payment on a 05' carrera GT. (big V-10, 605 hp, 435 TQ...0-60 3.8 sec.) its making my pants wet just thinking of the sound the engine makes.

Jake

 

the new boxster's are quicker than the older ones. and im guessing the one in the video wasnt the base model. the base model only comes with 2.7 245 hp engine, the other S model comes with v6 which produces 295hp.

and ive personally raced the base boxster, some rich kid around here has one...he lost by like a car length.
bottom line is, you cant beat the facts, the Z i much faster than the base model boxster. even though the boxster weighs about 300 lbs less, that doesnt mean it will spank a Z, especially not the 07's. either the boxster in your video was a boxster S, or the kid driving the Z was drunk...
Jake

 

The beauty of the Porsche Turbo or GT is that they get big hp from the flat six not the V-8 or the V-10. Anytime you can run a 0-60 in under four with a six is
amazing. However, I think we are comparing apples and oranges. The Z is a great car for its price, maybe the best out there but when you give up 30-40 grand to another make it is not a fair comparison. To compare the Z to the 987S is a reach but the 911 is another matter. We will always have our favorites but the Z is a great car at a great price. There will always be a faster car out there if you are willing to pay for it.

 

His car is a base Boxster, the 2.7L Flat engine that produces 245hp. He has a 5 speed manual, and has the 17 inch rims, has only one oval tailpipe, and the front bumper has 2 intake holes. Boxster S's come with a 6 speed manual as the standard transmission, have 2 exhaust holes, and 3 holes in the front bumper, my friend's Boxster is definately a base model. Both were completely stock, except for the Z that he had open up the exhaust just before the rear muffler, but had 20 inch wheels.

As for the rest, you just need a good driver to drive a good car. Remember that this car weights between 2,800 and 2,900 pounds. I'm telling you, people don't explode the performance of Porsches. If the base Boxster can hang on a 350Z, the S version won't have any trouble eating it away.

Now we must try the Boxster against a 2007, and we are really sure that things are going to be different.

 

The difference between a base Boxster's weight and a 350Z's base is between 400 and 500 pounds, and that my friend does make a difference. Apart from, the weight, the Boxster still has a 6 cilinder with 245 hp by the new SAE ratings, while the Z has about 280hp by the new SAE ratings, so the gap in horsepower is also reduce. Now you have almost 500 pounds of disadvantage that the Z has to make up with just 35 more hp. And on top of that comes the fact that Porsche's have better aerodynamics than Z's. You can have power and a big engine, but when that big wall of air comes at you at 100+ mph things start to take another shape.

 

The current Z has 306 by the new SAE ratings, not the old ones.

 

You only have two friends? Dude, you gotta get out of your garage!

 

The Z I'm refering to is a '04 which had 287 hp. Obviously the new one is rated at 306 hp by the new standard, but the old one is rated at around 280 hp by the new standard.

 

Jaja, well actually we got a little club going were we get together and film some races to see their performance. Apart from the 350Z and the Boxster, we also got EVO's, C5 Z06, Carrera 4S, E36 M3's... I think I should hang out more in my garage, jaja.

 

Best Motoring did 0-400M(roughly 1/4mile) test on 07 Z and Caymen S with Hattori behind the wheel back in May.

07 Z = 13.463
Caymen S = 13.103

 

The only Porsche that I see in which the tiptronic is faster 0-60 is the 911 Turbo. I'd love to have that car as a second choice to my dream Car. That of course being the Carrera GT, which is my new goal.

911 Turbo Spec from Porsche site:

Manual / Tiptronic S
Engine Cylinders 6 /6
Displacement 3.6 liters /3.6 liters
Engine-layout Rear engine /Rear engine
Horsepower 480 hp /480 hp
Torque 460 lb.-ft. /460 lb.-ft.
@ rpm 1,950 - 5,000 rpm /1,950 - 5,000 rpm
Torque (Overboost) 505 lb.-ft. (With optional Sport Chrono Turbo Package)/ 505 lb.-ft. (With optional Sport Chrono Turbo Package)
@ rpm (Overboost) 2,100 - 4,000 rpm (With optional Sport Chrono Turbo Package) /2,100 - 4,000 rpm (With optional Sport Chrono Turbo Package)
Compression ratio 9.0:1 /9.0:1
Manual /Tiptronic S
Performance Top Track Speed 192.6 mph (310 km/h) /192.6 mph (310 km/h)
0-60 mph 3.7 sec. /3.4 sec.

Oh ... and of course the 911 Turbo is about 100G's more:



I guess I will have to stick to my imitation for a while (J/K on the ducts/stk wheels):

 

Ok, so the Cayman is 2 seconds faster than the Z in a speed course. I'll keep my Z And put the extra $30,000.00 in the bank.

 

ok..the base model Boxster weighs 2,900 (2887) lbs. the 04' Z weighs 3200 lbs. thats a 300 lb diff. not a 500 lb difference.

not to mention the Z has 274 ft lb of tourque, the base model boxster has 201... 287 hp , and 245 hp for the boxster, new rateing or not, not a race for the Z, maybe a S2000, but not the Z...like i said before the guy who was driving the Z wasnt doing something right, or maybe it was the 20'' rims holding him back.

Jake

 

I don't know how much difference the rims will affect the performance, but I was inside the Z and the Boxster clearly had the top end advantage. The Boxster kept on going and by 140 mph he had about 2 to 3 car lengths. My point is that even if we change the rims, the Boxster is running close to the Z. You even said that you beat a Boxster by a car length, that is close enough, and an S version with 50 more horses would kill a base Boxster. This would mean that an S version would definately kill a 350Z.

We have raced S2000's on the Boxster, and we completely anihilated them, and the same in the 350Z. We noticed that in a rolling start, the Boxster can hang on to the Z. From a dig, the Boxster suffered of anemic torque and the Z easily pulled 2 car lenghts on it. At the end, I love both cars, and I'm thinking of getting a 2007 350Z. The 350Z is definately the best bang for the money right now.