CAR lap tims: New Z matches M3
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well the 335i was supposed to be compared to the g37 which on most mags the g37 is supposedly the winner. It wont be for a while probably till 2010 or 2011 that nissan puts out a new z with comparable power but price will no in doubt increase if that happens
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So, wheres the proof? I don't see any proof of the New Z matching the E46's M3 around the track, which is already a 6 year old car. Even so, it shouldn't matter, since the new M3 is another class ahead of the 350Z; you can get a new base Z for $28,000, the base E46 M3 ran for $47,000 at cheapest... oranges to apples.
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Originally Posted by zpak
This is most undoubtedly true. That new M3...she's a monster. Unless Nissan wakes up and smells the coffee and makes some radical engineering changes, the E92 M3 will be difficult to beat.
As far as the GT-R, it will not be competing with the M3; it's going for bigger toys in the performance division. Like I said before, it will be Infiniti's job to take care of the performance luxury cars out there since Infiniti is Nissan's luxury division.
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Originally Posted by porschefan1013
Let me make it a little more clear for you retard....in case the banana picture didn't do it for you.
You don't make a claim about a lap time and then go to the trouble of posting pictures of lap times, obviously to support your claim, when there isn't anything of substance in those pictures that actually confirms anything you're saying.
*If you don't want to take my word for it, you have two options. Subscribe to CAR and wait for the next issue, with the Updated lap times, or Pick up the current issue of CAR take pictures of the 350Z's Comparison Vs the Z4, and post them up. I'm not stopping you*
What exactly was the point of posting the pictures again? Could this not have waited until you could take a picture of the new lap time? And why didn't you take a picture of the new lap?
*CAR doesn't list the Newest laptimes obtained in the same issue on the fast lap Section. The cars in Red are newest additions to the list, tested Last issue. Both Motortrend, and Car and Driver practice this as well.*
AAAANNNDDD...big ****ing deal. A 350Z matches an M3's lap time. It's not like the car is undefeatable (although technically, matching isn't beating it now is it?
). And I'm pretty sure everyone here knows the 350Z is a more than capable car on the track. But once again, my point is proven...you're still comparing it to the M3. That ought to tell you something. It's still THE car to try and beat...and they haven't even made the damn thing for a year now. So why don't you wait just a little bit longer,even though it appears waiting might actually kill you, see what the new M3 does and report back to us. I have a feeling the 350Z will once again be playing catch-up for the next few years.
You don't make a claim about a lap time and then go to the trouble of posting pictures of lap times, obviously to support your claim, when there isn't anything of substance in those pictures that actually confirms anything you're saying.
*If you don't want to take my word for it, you have two options. Subscribe to CAR and wait for the next issue, with the Updated lap times, or Pick up the current issue of CAR take pictures of the 350Z's Comparison Vs the Z4, and post them up. I'm not stopping you*
What exactly was the point of posting the pictures again? Could this not have waited until you could take a picture of the new lap time? And why didn't you take a picture of the new lap?
*CAR doesn't list the Newest laptimes obtained in the same issue on the fast lap Section. The cars in Red are newest additions to the list, tested Last issue. Both Motortrend, and Car and Driver practice this as well.*
AAAANNNDDD...big ****ing deal. A 350Z matches an M3's lap time. It's not like the car is undefeatable (although technically, matching isn't beating it now is it?
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
The 350Z was never competing with the M3. Nissan has, to date, never had an answer to the BMW nor will they have an answer unless its wearing an Infiniti badge.
And even if it were "wearing an Infiniti badge", I don't think there's a single Infiniti that can come close to matching the M3 (or any of BMW's M-series of vehicles). "Regular" BMW's...maybe.
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I still don't understand why people are comparing these 2 cars that are in 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT PRICE RANGES. This is a retarded argument.... Nissan isn't supposed to go against BMW its supposed to go against the upper grade base level brands.
If your a baller that can stomach the price of maintaining a European vehicle then sure but I sure as hell don't want to pay their ridiculous maintenance costs but hey thats cause my pockets aren't so deep. So just let it die and let us have our peace?
If your a baller that can stomach the price of maintaining a European vehicle then sure but I sure as hell don't want to pay their ridiculous maintenance costs but hey thats cause my pockets aren't so deep. So just let it die and let us have our peace?
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Originally Posted by zpak
This is true, and although I might be inclined to agree with you, a whole slew of folks on bimmerforums.com can't stop posting "kills stories" against the Z (yeah, so who cares what they say, and a car forum isn't exactly quotable "proof" of anything, but I'm just saying...). Design for design (market niche), it's true that they're not direct competitors, but I know a lot of buyers who were wavering between the two when choosing to buy a car.
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And even if it were "wearing an Infiniti badge", I don't think there's a single Infiniti that can come close to matching the M3 (or any of BMW's M-series of vehicles). "Regular" BMW's...maybe.
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I still don't understand why people are comparing these 2 cars that are in 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT PRICE RANGES. This is a retarded argument.... Nissan isn't supposed to go against BMW its supposed to go against the upper grade base level brands.
If your a baller that can stomach the price of maintaining a European vehicle then sure but I sure as hell don't want to pay their ridiculous maintenance costs but hey thats cause my pockets aren't so deep. So just let it die and let us have our peace?
If your a baller that can stomach the price of maintaining a European vehicle then sure but I sure as hell don't want to pay their ridiculous maintenance costs but hey thats cause my pockets aren't so deep. So just let it die and let us have our peace?
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Originally Posted by zpak
This is most undoubtedly true. That new M3...she's a monster. Unless Nissan wakes up and smells the coffee and makes some radical engineering changes, the E92 M3 will be difficult to beat.
No...nothing drastic needs to happen, they're not in competition with each other. The Z needs to whip all cars in it's own competing class, and the Z does this very well and outsells them too. The M3, while i would love it if the Z whooped it's *** is a lot more expensive and not really any kind of a benchmark for Nissan. Nissan is worried about the Cayman, boxster, Z4 and the TT.
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Originally Posted by zpak
This is most undoubtedly true. That new M3...she's a monster. Unless Nissan wakes up and smells the coffee and makes some radical engineering changes, the E92 M3 will be difficult to beat.
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