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Old 08-07-2002, 05:31 AM
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Unhappy Road & Track

Just came from Z club meeting, the pres said he got his new R&T today. They got the same #'s as his Subie 0-60 in 5.6 and 1/4 in 14.9 or 15, something way off the wall.
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Motor Trend got 5.4 and 14.1 so R&T must be way off.
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...ds=350z&page=2
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thats what I thought, I about **** when I heard his bs numbers.
Old 08-07-2002, 05:55 AM
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Default Actually here's the numbers

0-60 in 5.6
quarter in 14.3 @100.2mph
slalom was better at .89
and all of this with a weight of 3290

All of this with the Track trim. I really respect R & T so I'm kinda bummed.

(Stats posted by AreZe from the 'other side')
Old 08-07-2002, 06:02 AM
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R & T WRX is...

0-60: 5.7
1/4 Mi: 14.4
Skidpad: .84

(I think AreZe meant skidpad not slalom at .89)

350Z still much better than stock WRX.
Old 08-07-2002, 06:04 AM
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VQ, you mean like temp or elevation?
Old 08-07-2002, 06:15 AM
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I don't think they do. If I recall, they usually publish the test conditions. Elevation, humidity, temp, etc.
Old 08-07-2002, 06:22 AM
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We're gonna need some of VQ's...



I've got my fingers crossed for that 300HP ECU.
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"unless the tuning was poor from the factory"

-or-

intentially de-tuned for a bit of aftermarket potential

I'd want more than 13HP from Intake/ECU/Exhaust + cost of factory install. 320HP maybe. (Poor man's 911) That's my goal.
Old 08-07-2002, 06:41 AM
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Default ECU and Exhaust? Please.

Save your money. You'll spend maybe $1500 on those. The only redeeming value o them is if the exhaust is a 3 inch system that will eliminate back-pressure. If it doesn't have one already. I haven't heard anyone mention the size of it yet.

No, my money is being saved for a low boost turbo kit that will get the 119 hp so the car needs to break the 400 hp mark.

That's why I have the Enthusiast model, that $6K or so that I save from buying that or the track model is going to be well spent.
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Default Re: ECU and Exhaust? Please.

Originally posted by tek
The only redeeming value o them is if the exhaust is a 3 inch system that will eliminate back-pressure. If it doesn't have one already. I haven't heard anyone mention the size of it yet.
Agreed. The single pipe (catback to Muffler) already looks like 3" from the pictures and mufflers don't get much bigger the 350Zs.

The stock Enthusiast will probably turn in the best number of all trims & you got $7K for mods. Sound plan. I couldn't resist those Rays / Brembos though.
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Default Re: ECU and Exhaust? Please.

Originally posted by tek
Save your money. You'll spend maybe $1500 on those. The only redeeming value o them is if the exhaust is a 3 inch system that will eliminate back-pressure. If it doesn't have one already. I haven't heard anyone mention the size of it yet.

No, my money is being saved for a low boost turbo kit that will get the 119 hp so the car needs to break the 400 hp mark.

That's why I have the Enthusiast model, that $6K or so that I save from buying that or the track model is going to be well spent.
That block wont support 400hp in stock form. It will blow.
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Default Re: Re: ECU and Exhaust? Please.

Originally posted by VQracer
That is a good plan, but haven't you ever thought about the guys that want to go N/A? Yes a turbocharger system would be great but not everyone wants to deal with all that stuff. exhaust/intake/ecu is simplified for most people. I personally will go with N/A for the first year and see how the VQ35DE responds to forced induction and then start getting a turbokit if available by that time.
I'm planning on going NA all the way. If I had wanted FI I would go the factory route (WRX STI or EVO). There is a reason why the M3, S2000, Boxster, corvette, NSX, all ferrari and the 350Z are NA. Some people don't want turbo. I'm not saying don't do it if you want it though.
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That block wont support 400hp in stock form. It will blow.


Then how are they getting 450 out of a standard block VQ in their new Alms version
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Originally posted by VQracer
JGTC! not ALMS!
Actually, there is news that Nissan plans on entering a vehicle based on the 350Z in the ALMS as well as another Japanese manufacturer (not Toyota). This comes from a recent Autoweek shown on the Speed Channel. They go on to speculate that if the other manufacturer is Mazda, it would be interesting to see an RX-8 vs 350Z.
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GettinOnIt-

I have not seen anything mentioned regarding whether or not they are disabling them. If the the runs would be better or not, depends on how agressive the system is. If it interferes with the minimum amount of spin, then it will probably slow the car. In ideal launches there is often a small amount of wheelspin. Traction control systems on most road cars are not beneficial for dry weather standing starts.

VQ-

I am a bit confused by Nissan's announcement and the specs of the car shown. The announcement specifically mentions GT300, but those cars are limited to roughly 300hp. That is far from 444hp.

Infiniti-

Where did you read that the engine making 444hp was a stock block? I would be pretty surprised if an open-deck block made that much hp without some reworking. That said 400hp out of that block might be possible...if we are lucky.

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