https://my350z.com/forum/exhaust/332409-jic-magic-de-type-2-st-series-exhaust.html

check my for sale thread as i was ripped off by this guy. i hope he does the smart thing and refunds my money.

 

why didn't you look at it before it was installed? You risked it...

buyer beware...

 

what you mean he ripped you off? He hasn't shipped it? Just wait a little.

 

i posted in your thread, and i'll leave it at that.

 

He came to pick up the exhaust! i his old one taken off free of chrage and mine put on free of charge, since he drove. He feels ripped off because the exhaust was not in 100% perfect condition and he's claiming i "tried to not let him see the exhaust." He had more than a few chances to look at the exhaust, he could have even asked the mechanic who put it on for him to bring it out to look at the condition before he put it on.

 

How can you not list in your sale that it's in horrible condition? Simply stating you will be polishing it up if it sells doesn't really help. I hope you aren't one of those people who think "what you can't see when installed won't hurt you" type of people. Many people buy the exhaust and makes sure it's in perfect condition. The guy drove up just to pick it up and then you say it's his fault for not looking at it? Cmon, that's a bit messed up on your part. I would of stated it in my sale..hell, i would make sure the person knows before coming to pick it up to make sure he wants and not waste his time nor gas. I hope you sold it to him for 3-400 dollars in that condition. I , myself, wouldn't even put that on my car.

 

lol if i would of had this item shipped i would of been really angry. but he does not want to do the right thing and refund my money. for 2 reasons, #1 he already spent it #2 if he gets this exhauts back he cannot sell it without fixing all the problems.

 

I'm honestly angry for you. I don't know what i would do. I would be pissed. You spent that much gas, paid 50 bucks to install it, and paid for that POS exhaust. Good luck trying to sell it. You will be lucky to make half of what you made back. Taking off and putting on an exhaust on the Z takes 30 minutes on freaking jack stands. Especially if it wasn't your first exhaust.

 

seems kinda messed up from kayfunk, and pretty stupid from the buyer... if i was driving twelve hours for an exhaust i would sure as hell take a look at it

 

lol yeah its my fault also im not gonna lie. but as i said on my post im a trusting guy. either way it will work itself out.

 

Like i said, i didnt know the scratches were there, as i just drove my car to my buddy's shop, had him take mine off and put my new one on. I had no time to look at it or even take it off being he wanted to come the day after i put it up for sale to buy it. If he wanted to wait a week i would have made sure the exhaust was in better condition when i gave it to him, but the condition it's in i was NOT aware of, which even still to me, looks like some scratches and it needs a small weld job. Not exactly costly. I am not an ******* or dishonest, if kramy had called me from the shop while i was at work and told me he didnt want the exhuast i would have given him his money back and that would have been that. Kramy had every chance to look at it before he left. $700 is not a big deal to me, but now it's principle. He sent me a text saying he wasn't satisfied and we need to "work something out, call me" so i told him i get off at 11 tonight, and i will. instead he goes and negative iTrader's me and now is going around with this blaspheme.

 

lol how did you not know the condition, its your exhaust, thats why you were selling it, because of the condition. don't lie you told me to not go in the shop, when will got there, i told him we could not go in the shop, but when it was pulled around front and they started on wills car we asked if we could go back so he could see my exhaust and his dad said it was ok. but why was i told i could not go back. cuz you did not want me to see thats why quit lying man.

 

If the situation was accurately depicted, I wouldn't buy a bag of dogsht from you. Lousy sellers ftl. The only reason you are "standing behind your principle" is because you live so far away from the buyer.

If a product I sell to someone is DOA or doesnt work correctly, I give them their money back. It's cut and dry business ethics. As the seller, it was your responsibility to inspect the merchandise before putting it up for sale that the item was worthy of the price you asked and the way it was described.

GL OP

 

nicely put phreaktor

 

+1000...kayfunk how can you be such a shitty person? I know for a fact you knew the exhaust was fu*k*d up. I feel bad for the buyer for not inspecting it. If you don't refund his money..well all I can say is Karma is a b****.

 

Noted. But as previously stated, the only time that exhaust has ever been off my car was when it was taken off for Kramy. I never saw it. If i were to ship it to someone or someone had asked for pictures before buying i would have ablidged and let them know the condition. Kramy came the day after i put it up for sale and took it from me, he urged that wens was his only day off and he wanted to come pick it up then, i even said a later date would be better due to me having work and it would be hard to work out. But if he came early i could make it happen. I'm not going to say i have no fault here because in the same aspect i too should have looked at it. The way the transaction was made makes me look dishonest and as if he got ripped, when in reality this is not the case.

and i can assure you, that's not the case

 

ok then refund my money and i will pay the shipping back. which is gonna cost about 100+ bucks. but as with the gas i spent and the 50 bucks i paid for it being put on with chicken wire. you can then have it fixed and resell it. i paid for a so called good exhaust like i said i should not have to pay to have an exhaust fixed i paid 700 bucks for. if your being honest as you claim it should not be a problem now should it.

 

like i said before, i think this was handled horribly by each party, but at this point I think its the sellers responsibility to refund the money, especially if the buyer is willing to ship for you

 

lol i post it here also
his response to my paypal claim

it's a JIC exhaust as DESCRIBED in my for sale thread. Your mistakes have landed you in this position.

 

haha, what a nightmare. Hope it works out for you.