Question about production volumes
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That's a moving target. When a new line starts it usually starts out slow, if the demand is great they can add shifts. I heard that worldwide production was in the neighborhhod of 50,000 a year so that's like 4200 a month. But like I said it could go higher.
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I'm just fooling around doing some math. I heard someone say there are about 7000 pre-orders in an earlier discussion? So, roughly, those pre-orders could be completely by the end of September give or take.
Since I don't have a production number for my car yet, I need to do something to pass the time!
Since I don't have a production number for my car yet, I need to do something to pass the time!
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I was talking to a dealer near me, and they said that production would be limited and as a result there's a good chance the price will never get down to MSRP. Anyone else hear the same thing?
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I was talking to a dealer near me, and they said that production would be limited and as a result there's a good chance the price will never get down to MSRP. Anyone else hear the same thing?
Even the S2000s and MR2s, which are held to around 5k per year in the US, are selling for list or below these days. If they make 25-35 thousand Zs a year for the US, it will be only 6 months before the price drops to a reasonable level.
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I ordered in July and dealers given me an October - December window. However, I have heard those types of rumours. Everyone you talk to at the different dealers seems to have a different thing to say about them. "You won't get one if you don't order now." "Won't see any until next spring." I guess a lot of it depends on what sort of relationship you have with your dealer (are you a current Nissan driver? know the guy/girl at all?)
The dealers around Vancouver all seem to have 5-10 pre-orders each. There seems that there has been little to no marketing around.
Pretty much everyone is paying msrp, some even below it which is good for them!
The dealers around Vancouver all seem to have 5-10 pre-orders each. There seems that there has been little to no marketing around.
Pretty much everyone is paying msrp, some even below it which is good for them!
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I don't think Nissan is doing that at all. I spoke with a member of the International Board of Nissan, and he told me they only way they can hurt the dealers was by not handing them out more pre-orders. They don't hurt the dealers by pushing back the delivery date of the cars, they hurt us, the consumer.
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Don't get me wrong, I wish the dealers that are charging over MSRP would get nailed by Nissan. I wish they could do something, like tell them, okay, you've got your pre-orders, but you aren't getting any more for months and months and months.
Don't get me wrong, I wish the dealers that are charging over MSRP would get nailed by Nissan. I wish they could do something, like tell them, okay, you've got your pre-orders, but you aren't getting any more for months and months and months.
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My wife talked to Nissan/8006477261/and the girl there stated "Nissan does not like dealers overcharging for the 350Z but there is nothing Nissan can do about it".
Seeing that the dealer I went through is charging a surcharge of $3k has really ticked me off as I read that many dealerships have honored Nissans request.
Seeing that I currently do not have a car to drive because I have sold my '00 Maxima right after I per ordered and I may not get the Z till late Oct. I just may go with something else, but one thing I will never do is again is per order a car sight unseen again! Not Nissans fault just bad dealerships
Seeing that the dealer I went through is charging a surcharge of $3k has really ticked me off as I read that many dealerships have honored Nissans request.
Seeing that I currently do not have a car to drive because I have sold my '00 Maxima right after I per ordered and I may not get the Z till late Oct. I just may go with something else, but one thing I will never do is again is per order a car sight unseen again! Not Nissans fault just bad dealerships
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Re: 43,000
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43,000 worldwide is a good number.
http://www.auto-asia.com/viewcontent.asp?pk=7376
43,000 worldwide is a good number.
http://www.auto-asia.com/viewcontent.asp?pk=7376
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The original figures from NNA for production were
2003 - 30K
2004 - 50K
2005 - 50K
These numbers were not cast in stone, but according to the VP I spoke with, represented a realistic production, due to several factors:
1. The plant(s) producting the VQ engines have a limited capacity and since this engine is now in 5 (eventually 6) models, the number for the Z's will be limited, for the near future.
2. With only one plant producing the Z, there is an upper limit to how fast they can assembly vs Quality control.
3. Demand... Nissan figures that the Z is a limited demand vehicle, where as the Altima, G35, Maxima ... are more likely to appeal to the average consumer.
So you can expect the volume to remain steady, and probably (barring some unknown reason) stay about 50K cars per year.
As for how Nissan dealt with rogue dealers, they have a way of hurting them in the pocket book. When the whole MSRP issue blew up over the pre-order Z at MSRP +, Nissan quietly informed the dealers to stop, or they would be last to receive the redesigned Maximas, which is more of a bread and butter car for most dealers.
2003 - 30K
2004 - 50K
2005 - 50K
These numbers were not cast in stone, but according to the VP I spoke with, represented a realistic production, due to several factors:
1. The plant(s) producting the VQ engines have a limited capacity and since this engine is now in 5 (eventually 6) models, the number for the Z's will be limited, for the near future.
2. With only one plant producing the Z, there is an upper limit to how fast they can assembly vs Quality control.
3. Demand... Nissan figures that the Z is a limited demand vehicle, where as the Altima, G35, Maxima ... are more likely to appeal to the average consumer.
So you can expect the volume to remain steady, and probably (barring some unknown reason) stay about 50K cars per year.
As for how Nissan dealt with rogue dealers, they have a way of hurting them in the pocket book. When the whole MSRP issue blew up over the pre-order Z at MSRP +, Nissan quietly informed the dealers to stop, or they would be last to receive the redesigned Maximas, which is more of a bread and butter car for most dealers.
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