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From: maryland
did they actually cash your deposit check? Is this legal? I mean a grand deposit to be on a list to place an order?
That sucks, but you might find someone on this forum giving up their spot, there was one here in MD. Even if it's out of state it can be shipped for like $500. Just a thought.
That sucks, but you might find someone on this forum giving up their spot, there was one here in MD. Even if it's out of state it can be shipped for like $500. Just a thought.
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Originally posted by rahilio
keep in mind that he ordered in june proven fact his dealer is a lying sack of S$%t still i mean cmonhe ordered in june and he ran out of patience?
what about you guys with the january orders?
keep in mind that he ordered in june proven fact his dealer is a lying sack of S$%t still i mean cmonhe ordered in june and he ran out of patience?
what about you guys with the january orders?
Also, Rahilio, see my reply in Fyi.
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i understand you dewd 100% the problem is you didnt order in jan dealer suck **** that a giving fact and did you get screwed yes because you got lied to i belive the dealers fax in there second order in late august i suggest you get to another dealer asap and put your order in for dec maybe even nov any autonation will give you the z at msrp no hassle
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If you really want the car, just wait it out.....
So you get it in end of November instead of the beginning of November....big deal!
You've already seen what's in the pre-order package.
Sure Nissan treats you like a troll if you are not in the pre-order program, but you WILL get a Z.
Maybe guilt your dealer into taking a few hundred off the price since they screwed up so royally....can't hurt trying.
So you get it in end of November instead of the beginning of November....big deal!
You've already seen what's in the pre-order package.
Sure Nissan treats you like a troll if you are not in the pre-order program, but you WILL get a Z.
Maybe guilt your dealer into taking a few hundred off the price since they screwed up so royally....can't hurt trying.
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I think both rahilio and abz are missing the point here.
Cheap is not complaining about waiting for his car, his complaint is that the sales person took his money and lied about what he did. Nothing was done. His vehicle is going to be ordered in Sep, not when he put down his money. That's why he's pissed and rightfully so.
Cheap is not complaining about waiting for his car, his complaint is that the sales person took his money and lied about what he did. Nothing was done. His vehicle is going to be ordered in Sep, not when he put down his money. That's why he's pissed and rightfully so.
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From: Va beach
local neighborhood dealer advice again...the best thing to do to really get at a dealer is to ruin his public image or to affect his supply. The best way to achieve this is to do two things. One contact nissan customer service AND the nissan regional office and tell them the whole story combine this with contacting the BBB and the local newspaper and news stations. The idea behind this is to create bad publicity for the dealership/to have nissan cut his allotment due to bad press. Now some of you may think that local news wouldnt care but believe me you'd be suprised how much people want to know what dealerships cannot be trusted. Try to find some more people the dealership has screwed. If you tell your dealership this is what you are gonna do if you are not satisfied with how this is handled then mayeb they will bend over to make amends with you. Can't hurt give it a try.
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Cheap,
Sorry to hear what happened, dude.
Listen, you can also go to the JA and explore your options. It just might be possible to get the dealership on a banned business list for base personnel. Or the dealership just might do something for you with this threat on their business.
Sorry to hear what happened, dude.
Listen, you can also go to the JA and explore your options. It just might be possible to get the dealership on a banned business list for base personnel. Or the dealership just might do something for you with this threat on their business.
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I was on the other site just now, post says this Redwood City dealership was just given 2 units on the first allocation. You might want to check it out.
Adam Locke
Boardwalk Nissan, Redwood City, CA
650-888-1059 cell
650-599-5704 office
Adam Locke
Boardwalk Nissan, Redwood City, CA
650-888-1059 cell
650-599-5704 office
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I talked to the dude at Boardwalk Nissan in redwood city, and they do have the 2 cars available still. A little over MSRP, but not outrageously so. However, after much deliberation, I've decided to cancel my order and be responsible (damnit!). Im gonna take that $$ and probably buy a cheaper project car and start looking for a house to buy.
Zbarrister, thanks for breaking it down for those guys. I've been so damn frustrated with this and some other stuff the past few days I was just gonna end up flaming em if I got into it, so I was trying to avoid the situation.
I think Nizl helped me put everything in perspective the most. Perhaps in a year or two I'll get the convertible
Oh and by the way - I never did get to see any of the special stuff sent to preorderers. No CDROM, no Love, no Lust. Nada. Only thing I got was the brochure, which I picked up at the dealership and again at the Danville show. And with my dialup, most videos are off-limits too.
Zbarrister, thanks for breaking it down for those guys. I've been so damn frustrated with this and some other stuff the past few days I was just gonna end up flaming em if I got into it, so I was trying to avoid the situation.
I think Nizl helped me put everything in perspective the most. Perhaps in a year or two I'll get the convertible
Oh and by the way - I never did get to see any of the special stuff sent to preorderers. No CDROM, no Love, no Lust. Nada. Only thing I got was the brochure, which I picked up at the dealership and again at the Danville show. And with my dialup, most videos are off-limits too.
dude that sux horribly!
i really really feel for you
but i think zonedogg had a good point
take him and nizl on what they said... you might get sumwhere with that
and good luck with a house...
i really really feel for you
but i think zonedogg had a good point
take him and nizl on what they said... you might get sumwhere with that
and good luck with a house...
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Hey Throb,
In Cheap's case, it looks like it's just a particular salesperson; not the whole dealership. At least I want to think that way since my preorder is from the SAME dealership.
So far, I've been satisfied. Got my confirmation on time/as expected. Received the Danville museum invitation from them and then got a follow up call from them asking if I've received the invite.
Last time I called, my salesperson was no longer there, but the manager referred me to new salesperson that was assigned my account. The salesperson told me my name was on his preliminary report for estimated delivery date. Told me I'd have my VIN shortly before the vehicle's arrival. He even called me after he came back from the San Diego product introduction to tell me he finally saw the Z in person and how excited he was about the Z.
So there; no complaints here.
In Cheap's case, it looks like it's just a particular salesperson; not the whole dealership. At least I want to think that way since my preorder is from the SAME dealership.
So far, I've been satisfied. Got my confirmation on time/as expected. Received the Danville museum invitation from them and then got a follow up call from them asking if I've received the invite.
Last time I called, my salesperson was no longer there, but the manager referred me to new salesperson that was assigned my account. The salesperson told me my name was on his preliminary report for estimated delivery date. Told me I'd have my VIN shortly before the vehicle's arrival. He even called me after he came back from the San Diego product introduction to tell me he finally saw the Z in person and how excited he was about the Z.
So there; no complaints here.
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Cheap: Before you cancel your order ...
Just some thoughts, though I am not an attourney, I think you should talk to one. You have beeen damaged financially and emotionally. You relied on information that was fraudulent. An attourney that takes your case on a contingent basis (no cost to you, split any settlement 50/50) will go after the dealer and also sue Nissan (deep pockets) because you relied on them to "keep you informed" and they did'nt. Thinking of the timing with the sales roll-out eminent, you should get some satisfaction.
I really hope this works out for you !
Just some thoughts, though I am not an attourney, I think you should talk to one. You have beeen damaged financially and emotionally. You relied on information that was fraudulent. An attourney that takes your case on a contingent basis (no cost to you, split any settlement 50/50) will go after the dealer and also sue Nissan (deep pockets) because you relied on them to "keep you informed" and they did'nt. Thinking of the timing with the sales roll-out eminent, you should get some satisfaction.
I really hope this works out for you !
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No Chance Going After Nissan
An attourney that takes your case on a contingent basis (no cost to you, split any settlement 50/50) will go after the dealer and also sue Nissan (deep pockets) because you relied on them to "keep you informed" and they did'nt.
I would see if you have a case against the dealership. Good luck!
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Would I even have a case? I mean, it seems to me that if it came to court it would be my word vs. the dealerships (in regards as to what I should have expected concerning delivery and ordering). They just TOLD me that they were going to fax the order in, and they just TOLD me that I was 7 out of 10. And the person who TOLD me all of this no longer works at that dealership (Ryan Sutton). I'm not really seeing a case holding up in court here... as much as I wish there was. I think it was more a case of "lets screw the kid 'cause he won't know any better" or "there's no way that kid is really gonna be able to pay for a $30k car."
I'm also curious as to whether I was bumped down on the list post-ordering because I had an MSRP price, as opposed to the other 14 suckers on the list behind me and possibly the 9 (?) before me.
Any lawyers in the house? And of course ya'll will be my character witnesses, right? (especially those of you at Danville, except for Zbart cause he'd be in a conflicting situation.)
I'm also curious as to whether I was bumped down on the list post-ordering because I had an MSRP price, as opposed to the other 14 suckers on the list behind me and possibly the 9 (?) before me.
Any lawyers in the house? And of course ya'll will be my character witnesses, right? (especially those of you at Danville, except for Zbart cause he'd be in a conflicting situation.)
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Same thing pretty much happened to me dude. I live in Houston, Tx and Mossy was pullin some of that crap w/me and several others. I ordered mid april w/ a "supposed" delivery in October, which later went to Nov/Dec which is now officially Jan/Feb. I was angry once....back when I cared....now i'm willing to just wait and meantime i'm just dreamin of buyin a bike to ease the pain.
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I feel your pain........I had the same thing happen to me when I ordered my black/touring model a couple of weeks ago. The dealer said they couldn't even place the order till mid October pushing a delivery date out to March.
But I got lucky!
Less than a week later another dealer called ma and said that the person that ordered the first Z that was delivered to their dealer backed out due to a divorce since he pre-ordered it. They said I should come down and take a look at it. I had already seen it a few days prior when it came in (Silver/Charcoal/Touring) Much to my suprise when I went to see it the next day the dealer had marked the car up $8500. It had an extra sticker that said Dealer markup $8500 puting the price up to 41k! I promptly told the salesman that there was no way in hell that I was going to pay a dime over MSRP since I already had one on order (kinda) To make a long story short I spent 8 hours at the dealer talking them down to 1k over MSRP. It was a long day but I drove home in one of the first Z's delivered to this state.
Hell I even had to sign the purchase paperwork before they even let me drive it! But hell.......it was worth it!! I got it on Saturday and I have met more strangers in the last 4 days than I have in the last 5 years. Everyone wants to look at it.....I get pulled over on the road, people follow me to my house, there are people peering in the window all day at work. Other than the usual complaints (Bose stereo blows, lots of brake dust, etc..) It's a outstanding vehicle that I feel priveledged to have. I still have the window sticker that shows the markup....if you do come across an opportunity like this don't be afraid to stand your ground. I walked out on the salesman twice, and they sent the sales Director out to the parking lot to finish the sale. :-)
Good luck to all of you that are still waiting!! Hang in there...make sure the local dealers know to call you should a pre-order become available!
But I got lucky!
Less than a week later another dealer called ma and said that the person that ordered the first Z that was delivered to their dealer backed out due to a divorce since he pre-ordered it. They said I should come down and take a look at it. I had already seen it a few days prior when it came in (Silver/Charcoal/Touring) Much to my suprise when I went to see it the next day the dealer had marked the car up $8500. It had an extra sticker that said Dealer markup $8500 puting the price up to 41k! I promptly told the salesman that there was no way in hell that I was going to pay a dime over MSRP since I already had one on order (kinda) To make a long story short I spent 8 hours at the dealer talking them down to 1k over MSRP. It was a long day but I drove home in one of the first Z's delivered to this state. Hell I even had to sign the purchase paperwork before they even let me drive it! But hell.......it was worth it!! I got it on Saturday and I have met more strangers in the last 4 days than I have in the last 5 years. Everyone wants to look at it.....I get pulled over on the road, people follow me to my house, there are people peering in the window all day at work. Other than the usual complaints (Bose stereo blows, lots of brake dust, etc..) It's a outstanding vehicle that I feel priveledged to have. I still have the window sticker that shows the markup....if you do come across an opportunity like this don't be afraid to stand your ground. I walked out on the salesman twice, and they sent the sales Director out to the parking lot to finish the sale. :-)
Good luck to all of you that are still waiting!! Hang in there...make sure the local dealers know to call you should a pre-order become available!
