FYI update
08-13-2002, 10:31 AM
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FYI update
For those of you who know what's going on with my Nissan drama, I have a disappointing update.
Got ahold of the General sales manager today at Vacaville Nissan, where I had supposedly preordered my Z. That's right, boys 'n girls, my car hasn't even been ORDERED yet! Apparently, when I "ordered" my car, and paid my deposit, I was basically lied to point blank and told that I was order # 7 of 10. Well, turns out I'm 10 of 7, and while the first 7 actually have their cars on order I simply paid my $1000 deposit to be on the waiting list for dealer allotments.
What BS!!!!!
What this basically means to you and me is that if my dealer gets 3 allocatements for new Zs in september, mine will be the third. If they only get 2, my car wouldn't even be ordered until November. Unfortunately for me, the sales person that took my order and "faxed it in" to Nissan (HA another f*ckin lie) doesn't work there anymore (I can't get a straight answer whether he was fired, quit, or transferred/promoted) so I can't beat his ***. I have my contact, Sharon, in the Pleasanton Nissan office looking into this matter, but unless there's something to be done to get me a Z before 2003 I'll be throwing in the towel. I've been doing a lot of thinking about it all and I really should be spending this $$ on a house, not a car, but I wouldn't even be thinking like this had everything gone the way it was supposed to...
I know many of you have been waiting since January, but you will be the first to be driving these cars... not just another Z owner 6 months (or later) after they come out. This is screwing up my whole deal with a shop that was gonna sponsor my car, too. RRRRGH I'm so freakin pissed over this whole deal.
Oh, and to add a lil' icing to the cake, as I'm deliberating all of this to the general manager, he tells me that if I want my deposit back that'd be no problem for him as he has 14 people behind me on the list that are waiting to pay over MSRP.
Rants, raves, comments, suggestions, and definetly solutions all welcome... *hopefully* someone with authority inside Nissan will recognize my plight and hook it up but based on my Nissan experience thus far I won't be holding my breath.
If anyone gets one of these rumored surveys, I desperately want you to photocopy it and mail me one. I have some asses to fry.
Got ahold of the General sales manager today at Vacaville Nissan, where I had supposedly preordered my Z. That's right, boys 'n girls, my car hasn't even been ORDERED yet! Apparently, when I "ordered" my car, and paid my deposit, I was basically lied to point blank and told that I was order # 7 of 10. Well, turns out I'm 10 of 7, and while the first 7 actually have their cars on order I simply paid my $1000 deposit to be on the waiting list for dealer allotments.
What BS!!!!!
What this basically means to you and me is that if my dealer gets 3 allocatements for new Zs in september, mine will be the third. If they only get 2, my car wouldn't even be ordered until November. Unfortunately for me, the sales person that took my order and "faxed it in" to Nissan (HA another f*ckin lie) doesn't work there anymore (I can't get a straight answer whether he was fired, quit, or transferred/promoted) so I can't beat his ***. I have my contact, Sharon, in the Pleasanton Nissan office looking into this matter, but unless there's something to be done to get me a Z before 2003 I'll be throwing in the towel. I've been doing a lot of thinking about it all and I really should be spending this $$ on a house, not a car, but I wouldn't even be thinking like this had everything gone the way it was supposed to...
I know many of you have been waiting since January, but you will be the first to be driving these cars... not just another Z owner 6 months (or later) after they come out. This is screwing up my whole deal with a shop that was gonna sponsor my car, too. RRRRGH I'm so freakin pissed over this whole deal.
Oh, and to add a lil' icing to the cake, as I'm deliberating all of this to the general manager, he tells me that if I want my deposit back that'd be no problem for him as he has 14 people behind me on the list that are waiting to pay over MSRP.
Rants, raves, comments, suggestions, and definetly solutions all welcome... *hopefully* someone with authority inside Nissan will recognize my plight and hook it up but based on my Nissan experience thus far I won't be holding my breath.
If anyone gets one of these rumored surveys, I desperately want you to photocopy it and mail me one. I have some asses to fry.
08-13-2002, 11:04 AM
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Re: FYI update
That sucks. You got screwed.
Here's what I would do:
1. Get your deposit back and report the dealer to Nissan and the BBB, as well as any local "watchdog groups" that could really make life miserable on the dealer. Just for fun.
2. Use the money to buy a house. I was in the same position about 4 years ago, bought the house, and it has been one of the coolest things I've done, both financially and emotionally.
3. Wait about 6 months. By March, the frenzy will have settled down. I can almost guarantee prices will be back to MSRP by then, once the initial hype wears off.
Like the old saying goes, "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade."
I know this post may seem a little rosey, but if you try to make the best of it I bet things will work out great in the end. But yes your dealer does need to be strung up.
Here's what I would do:
Originally posted by cheap
I've been doing a lot of thinking about it all and I really should be spending this $$ on a house, not a car, but I wouldn't even be thinking like this had everything gone the way it was supposed to...
I've been doing a lot of thinking about it all and I really should be spending this $$ on a house, not a car, but I wouldn't even be thinking like this had everything gone the way it was supposed to...
2. Use the money to buy a house. I was in the same position about 4 years ago, bought the house, and it has been one of the coolest things I've done, both financially and emotionally.
3. Wait about 6 months. By March, the frenzy will have settled down. I can almost guarantee prices will be back to MSRP by then, once the initial hype wears off.
Like the old saying goes, "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade."
I know this post may seem a little rosey, but if you try to make the best of it I bet things will work out great in the end. But yes your dealer does need to be strung up.
08-13-2002, 11:07 AM
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Ok, even though I did start this thread in all seriousness, I can't help but post this...
A .40 would be fun, but I think I'd have a better time picking 'em off one at a time, so the fear has time to set in.
A .40 would be fun, but I think I'd have a better time picking 'em off one at a time, so the fear has time to set in.
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Originally posted by cheap
Ok, even though I did start this thread in all seriousness, I can't help but post this...
A .40 would be fun, but I think I'd have a better time picking 'em off one at a time, so the fear has time to set in.
Ok, even though I did start this thread in all seriousness, I can't help but post this...
A .40 would be fun, but I think I'd have a better time picking 'em off one at a time, so the fear has time to set in.
08-13-2002, 11:34 AM
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I never received ANYTHING - no CDROM, no VIN, no confirmation packet. Nada. Which is what tipped me off to the whole bucket of shenanigans in the first place. I kept wondering why I was the only preorderer on the board who hadn't received any confirmation... It also explains why I wasn't on the invite list to the Danville show (when I was the VERY first person to show up, at 4 am).
08-13-2002, 11:37 AM
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By the way I do like the idea of contacting the BBB. That thought had never occured to me before. I doubt it will help my situation any but it could possibly help prevent someone from making my mistake too.
Nothin like smearin a lil' mud, "just for fun."
Nothin like smearin a lil' mud, "just for fun."
08-13-2002, 02:50 PM
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Cheap,
There are several 350Z slots advertized on this site at msrp with an estimated delivery of sept/oct. Why don't you check it out? Just might save you some misery.
Just a thought...
There are several 350Z slots advertized on this site at msrp with an estimated delivery of sept/oct. Why don't you check it out? Just might save you some misery.
Just a thought...
08-13-2002, 04:14 PM
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well september isn't so bad. I did pre-order and am not getting the car until the end of sept. You mean you never got the super special package in the mail either?
BTW I love those icons, I wish Jay could update our list.
BTW I love those icons, I wish Jay could update our list.
08-13-2002, 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by rai
well september isn't so bad. I did pre-order and am not getting the car until the end of sept. You mean you never got the super special package in the mail either?
BTW I love those icons, I wish Jay could update our list.
well september isn't so bad. I did pre-order and am not getting the car until the end of sept. You mean you never got the super special package in the mail either?
BTW I love those icons, I wish Jay could update our list.
Cheap, I would either go with plan b and get the house instead, or take over someone's pre-order slot.
08-13-2002, 04:37 PM
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cheap.......hey man i feel your pain.......i know what it is like being lied 2 by the fu@king dealers.........i was told the same thing..........i put down my deposit of a thousand on 5/15/02.........as of this day, i havent received ne cd-rom, no confirmation letter NOTHING.............i have called the dealership and spoke 2 the manager there, which in fact placed my order and took my money and all he has givin me is the runaround ever since then.........i have even call nna and they will not get back w/ me for some odd reason........i am just like u.......i would like 2 get a home, but WOULD REALLY LOVE THE Z..............i dont know what 2 do bro........lets start a support group of somekind.......lol...........just a thought..........later.......p.s I 2 LOVE THE BBB IDEA........I JUST MIGHT GIVE EM A RING........HEY IT MIGHT JUST STIR UP THE POT A BIT!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by cheap
Ok, even though I did start this thread in all seriousness, I can't help but post this...
A .40 would be fun, but I think I'd have a better time picking 'em off one at a time, so the fear has time to set in.
Ok, even though I did start this thread in all seriousness, I can't help but post this...
A .40 would be fun, but I think I'd have a better time picking 'em off one at a time, so the fear has time to set in.
08-13-2002, 05:23 PM
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Ok, just for some clarafication, my car has not been ordered yet. It MIGHT get ordered in September, might not. Thusly, Nissan has no reason to send me anything.
08-13-2002, 05:27 PM
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I had the exact thing happen to me at a dealer in Texas when I "ordered" in early April. I too had not received confirmation letter, packet, etc. Thanks to the info exchanged on this forum, I confronted the sales manager (and also contacted Nissan customer service)who finally fessed-up that I wasn't on the pre-order list (he was going to string me along until he could use his dealer allotment sometime next year - the bum..). Long story short... I found a dealer in Houston (also thanks to this forum) who had a pre-order cancellation and was able to take it over. The car was configured almost exactly like I wanted. A happy ending to a very sorry story..