Nissan really got me
well...its probably gonna run you around $1400 if you get the repairs done at the dealership:
2 front tires around $500
2 front pads around $200
2 rotors for front around $600
thats probably counting dealership labor and OEM parts which are POS.
I have front pads stock which only have 13k miles on them...already need replacing.
thats just my guess....how much did you pay for the car??
2 front tires around $500
2 front pads around $200
2 rotors for front around $600
thats probably counting dealership labor and OEM parts which are POS.
I have front pads stock which only have 13k miles on them...already need replacing.
thats just my guess....how much did you pay for the car??
Originally Posted by 750rider
I sell Nissans and let me tell you this. Nissan CPO is basically just an extended warranty. There is no extra inspection that the dealer will do most of the time. Although the used car saftey should have cought the brakes and tires. Used car safety inspections are kind of a joke. They just makes sure the car starts and stops. Thats about it. Sorry to hear you burned yourself and have to cover the cost. You might just try talking to the used car manager and if you are persistant enough he might give in. Good luck
PS: ADM = Additional Dealer Markup / ADP = Additional Dealer Profit = Complete BS!
Here's my take on the whole thing.
I don't blame a person for not knowing about certain things they are out to purchase. Some are unexperienced, especially if it's a first time buyer for anything, including real estate. Isn't this why we as the general public ask questions because we as a whole are not knowledgable in every product. This is why there are such thing as a sales person, someone who should be able to educate you about the product so you can see if the product is right for you. Why is it when you walk into almost any other stores, they have sales staff that know their products. Why? Because they want repeat customers.
Imo, the dealerships (not the corporations who make the cars) are only out for one thing, MONEY, especially the used car lots. First of all, MOST sales persons in a dealership knows nothing about the cars they sell and they don't really care. The bottom line for them is sell sell sell otherwise no food on the dinner table.
I have asked dumb questions just to see what a sales person would say and I will tell you, ask a dumb question and get a dumb answer. And I don't mean they give a dumb answer just to be an azz, but straight out a dumb answer. I really like it when they say, "Umm let me go and see what information I can find on the car". Last time I checked there are only a few models per make.
I believe used car lots are suppose to inspect the brakes and tires etc and if they are below a certain percentage, it is suppose to be replaced (but you know how that goes). If it costs them a penny, then it's asking too much.
However, I have ran into those who educated themselves with the vehicles they are selling and have been informative (very few though). And I have to admit, when buying anything used, don't trust what anyone says especially a used car sales person. There's a reason why ppl use the "used car sales men" as a put down.
Just my 2 bits and then some.
I don't blame a person for not knowing about certain things they are out to purchase. Some are unexperienced, especially if it's a first time buyer for anything, including real estate. Isn't this why we as the general public ask questions because we as a whole are not knowledgable in every product. This is why there are such thing as a sales person, someone who should be able to educate you about the product so you can see if the product is right for you. Why is it when you walk into almost any other stores, they have sales staff that know their products. Why? Because they want repeat customers.
Imo, the dealerships (not the corporations who make the cars) are only out for one thing, MONEY, especially the used car lots. First of all, MOST sales persons in a dealership knows nothing about the cars they sell and they don't really care. The bottom line for them is sell sell sell otherwise no food on the dinner table.
I have asked dumb questions just to see what a sales person would say and I will tell you, ask a dumb question and get a dumb answer. And I don't mean they give a dumb answer just to be an azz, but straight out a dumb answer. I really like it when they say, "Umm let me go and see what information I can find on the car". Last time I checked there are only a few models per make.
I believe used car lots are suppose to inspect the brakes and tires etc and if they are below a certain percentage, it is suppose to be replaced (but you know how that goes). If it costs them a penny, then it's asking too much.
However, I have ran into those who educated themselves with the vehicles they are selling and have been informative (very few though). And I have to admit, when buying anything used, don't trust what anyone says especially a used car sales person. There's a reason why ppl use the "used car sales men" as a put down.
Just my 2 bits and then some.
When I test drove my 05 Redline Touring 350Z I took her on the highway and turned off the radio heard tire noise. They let me keep her for a weekend and I got the brakes and engine compression checked. It was all good I also notice that some rubber trim around the driver window was damaged the Stealership fixed it all or I wasn't going to buy her even with the low mileages.
You have to do somethings to protect yourself, I've heard of Dealerships putting a new set of tires on, new brakes all the way around and detailing the car if you catch them right before you sign. I'll buy her if you fix this list of items if not I'll find another place to buy.
Once you sign you're done or at their mercy.
You have to do somethings to protect yourself, I've heard of Dealerships putting a new set of tires on, new brakes all the way around and detailing the car if you catch them right before you sign. I'll buy her if you fix this list of items if not I'll find another place to buy.
Once you sign you're done or at their mercy.
OP many here will laugh at you but i was in the same boat as you. Actually it was my first post, that people should be aware of this, and like many posts here, they laughed at me too. Not everyone is a Z guru and I thought buying a car from a nissan dealership compared to a used car dealership would mean they wouldnt try to work you over like that but as you have learnt the hard way, they do.
Good luck with replacing all the parts. It cost me $350 to replace the front 2 rotors. I have to look into tires now.
Wish i could by a z all over again, i would shave so much off of the price for any z that wasnt absolutely perfect. hindsight and education i guess.
Good luck with replacing all the parts. It cost me $350 to replace the front 2 rotors. I have to look into tires now.
Wish i could by a z all over again, i would shave so much off of the price for any z that wasnt absolutely perfect. hindsight and education i guess.
i inspected my Z when i got it with 75k on it, has the tire feathering, cold gear tranny/differential whine, still love it. You definitely should research cars before buying them, even with all the problems Z's have, they are still great cars and every car manufacturer has their problems, i traded in a 2000 honda S2000 that was driving me crazy with constantly replacing the map sensor and wheel bearing noise. i did all my research and they "tried" to slam me because i still owed on the S, but the only thing they did that i was not ready for was slap on a warranty and get the loan approved and i didnt notice till after i signed it, but i figured i would keep it because you never know when something will pop up, and i would just have to pay $100 to get whatever it is fixed anyhow, so if it does, im gonna make sure its over $100 repair! welcome to the Z club!
Last edited by jray8; Apr 16, 2008 at 09:37 AM.
Originally Posted by ColdZ
Maybe it's just my ignorance, but don't they have a checklist they go over to call a car certified pre owned?
I don't care who the seller is, it is YOUR job to know what your buying.
This is not the dealer's fault, it is yours. Quit whinning & grow up.
When you buy a used car (any car from any seller), you have to take to a mechanic & have it inspected. If seller won't allow it to be inspected, walk.
This is not the dealer's fault, it is yours. Quit whinning & grow up.
When you buy a used car (any car from any seller), you have to take to a mechanic & have it inspected. If seller won't allow it to be inspected, walk.
Originally Posted by The Brickyard Rat
I don't care who the seller is, it is YOUR job to know what your buying.
This is not the dealer's fault, it is yours. Quit whinning & grow up.
When you buy a used car (any car from any seller), you have to take to a mechanic & have it inspected. If seller won't allow it to be inspected, walk.
This is not the dealer's fault, it is yours. Quit whinning & grow up.
When you buy a used car (any car from any seller), you have to take to a mechanic & have it inspected. If seller won't allow it to be inspected, walk.
I agree to the point that he should have researched what you get for each model, but who is going to sit there and go through every nick nack. It's still false advertisement if they posted something other than what they actually sold to a customer.
If it really bothers you, why respond. Let the ppl here chat it up. Someone is asking for advice, so lets be a bit more mature and not say "stop whining & grow up". BTW, you added an extra "n" in whining.
I have an example about taking it to a mechanic before purchasing. I bought an Audi cabrio a couple of years ago (give or take) and it drove fine and looked great. Took it to a mechanic and everything checked out. Until a couple months later when I noticed gas fumes coming out of the car. Unfortunately, my mechanic is not into tearing apart the whole car just to see if everything is good. Anyway, I took it back to the mechanic and told him about the smell. He checked everything and couldn't find what was wrong, until he got into the gas tank itself. The gas tank in these cars are hidden behind the back seat and the seat doesn't fold down. He pulled it apart and found a crack. Apparently, the crack was there for some time and because it was sitting on the lot with the top down, no fumes and not enough movement to have gas seep through the crack.
Oh, that's right, I won the case when we went to court and they had to pay for everything.
My point is, sometimes you can find what's wrong with the car and sometimes the problem doesn't show up until a couple days or so later.
Originally Posted by xtrmspd
My point is, sometimes you can find what's wrong with the car and sometimes the problem doesn't show up until a couple days or so later.
Brake/tire wear is a common on every car and honestly that is something anyone that is buying a used car should check out or if they don't and they turn out to be worn out not go out there and play the victim card.
Its one of those situations where sometimes you have to learn as you go and I am sure the next used car he buys (and perhaps new) he will kick the tires and look at them instead of just assuming that the dealer did it for him.
Originally Posted by Master Shake
So what exactly is the Certified Pre Owned program all about then? I remember when I was in the market, the Nissan dealerships that I visited claimed their used cars to be CPO -- and also said that only a Nissan dealership can claim CPO on a Nissan product. Consequently, they also were about $2k more from a Nissan dealership, compared to a non-Nissan dealership. Is this just the used car form of the ADM/ADP that some dealers add to new cars?
PS: ADM = Additional Dealer Markup / ADP = Additional Dealer Profit = Complete BS!
PS: ADM = Additional Dealer Markup / ADP = Additional Dealer Profit = Complete BS!
Originally Posted by zeekle
Your situation is a lot different than the OP. Unless tank problems are common with the car you are looking at normally you wouldn't expect someone to check for that sort of problem.
Brake/tire wear is a common on every car and honestly that is something anyone that is buying a used car should check out or if they don't and they turn out to be worn out not go out there and play the victim card.
Its one of those situations where sometimes you have to learn as you go and I am sure the next used car he buys (and perhaps new) he will kick the tires and look at them instead of just assuming that the dealer did it for him.
Brake/tire wear is a common on every car and honestly that is something anyone that is buying a used car should check out or if they don't and they turn out to be worn out not go out there and play the victim card.
Its one of those situations where sometimes you have to learn as you go and I am sure the next used car he buys (and perhaps new) he will kick the tires and look at them instead of just assuming that the dealer did it for him.
Like you said, everyone goes through a learning experience. Some get it and some don't. But we have all gone through it one way or another and hopefully, learned from it. I can't say anything negative about this guy who is asking for opinions about his situation.
Last edited by xtrmspd; Apr 17, 2008 at 02:19 PM.



