Notices
2003-2009 Nissan 350Z

Nissan really got me

Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:53 AM
  #21  
zerafian's Avatar
zerafian
New Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,180
Likes: 16
From: Chattanooga, Tn
Default

well...its probably gonna run you around $1400 if you get the repairs done at the dealership:

2 front tires around $500
2 front pads around $200
2 rotors for front around $600

thats probably counting dealership labor and OEM parts which are POS.

I have front pads stock which only have 13k miles on them...already need replacing.

thats just my guess....how much did you pay for the car??
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:13 AM
  #22  
abeklipse's Avatar
abeklipse
New Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 359
Likes: 1
From: Norwalk, CA
Default

It's always good to "kick the tires" when buying a car.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:16 AM
  #23  
Master Shake's Avatar
Master Shake
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 775
Likes: 1
From: Phoenix
Default

Originally Posted by 750rider
I sell Nissans and let me tell you this. Nissan CPO is basically just an extended warranty. There is no extra inspection that the dealer will do most of the time. Although the used car saftey should have cought the brakes and tires. Used car safety inspections are kind of a joke. They just makes sure the car starts and stops. Thats about it. Sorry to hear you burned yourself and have to cover the cost. You might just try talking to the used car manager and if you are persistant enough he might give in. Good luck
So what exactly is the Certified Pre Owned program all about then? I remember when I was in the market, the Nissan dealerships that I visited claimed their used cars to be CPO -- and also said that only a Nissan dealership can claim CPO on a Nissan product. Consequently, they also were about $2k more from a Nissan dealership, compared to a non-Nissan dealership. Is this just the used car form of the ADM/ADP that some dealers add to new cars?

PS: ADM = Additional Dealer Markup / ADP = Additional Dealer Profit = Complete BS!
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:40 AM
  #24  
xtrmspd's Avatar
xtrmspd
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: Washington
Default

Here's my take on the whole thing.

I don't blame a person for not knowing about certain things they are out to purchase. Some are unexperienced, especially if it's a first time buyer for anything, including real estate. Isn't this why we as the general public ask questions because we as a whole are not knowledgable in every product. This is why there are such thing as a sales person, someone who should be able to educate you about the product so you can see if the product is right for you. Why is it when you walk into almost any other stores, they have sales staff that know their products. Why? Because they want repeat customers.

Imo, the dealerships (not the corporations who make the cars) are only out for one thing, MONEY, especially the used car lots. First of all, MOST sales persons in a dealership knows nothing about the cars they sell and they don't really care. The bottom line for them is sell sell sell otherwise no food on the dinner table.

I have asked dumb questions just to see what a sales person would say and I will tell you, ask a dumb question and get a dumb answer. And I don't mean they give a dumb answer just to be an azz, but straight out a dumb answer. I really like it when they say, "Umm let me go and see what information I can find on the car". Last time I checked there are only a few models per make.

I believe used car lots are suppose to inspect the brakes and tires etc and if they are below a certain percentage, it is suppose to be replaced (but you know how that goes). If it costs them a penny, then it's asking too much.

However, I have ran into those who educated themselves with the vehicles they are selling and have been informative (very few though). And I have to admit, when buying anything used, don't trust what anyone says especially a used car sales person. There's a reason why ppl use the "used car sales men" as a put down.

Just my 2 bits and then some.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:07 AM
  #25  
Donsred350Z's Avatar
Donsred350Z
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Okc,Ok
Default

When I test drove my 05 Redline Touring 350Z I took her on the highway and turned off the radio heard tire noise. They let me keep her for a weekend and I got the brakes and engine compression checked. It was all good I also notice that some rubber trim around the driver window was damaged the Stealership fixed it all or I wasn't going to buy her even with the low mileages.

You have to do somethings to protect yourself, I've heard of Dealerships putting a new set of tires on, new brakes all the way around and detailing the car if you catch them right before you sign. I'll buy her if you fix this list of items if not I'll find another place to buy.

Once you sign you're done or at their mercy.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:10 AM
  #26  
my05350z's Avatar
my05350z
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 435
Likes: 0
From: south florida
Default

OP many here will laugh at you but i was in the same boat as you. Actually it was my first post, that people should be aware of this, and like many posts here, they laughed at me too. Not everyone is a Z guru and I thought buying a car from a nissan dealership compared to a used car dealership would mean they wouldnt try to work you over like that but as you have learnt the hard way, they do.

Good luck with replacing all the parts. It cost me $350 to replace the front 2 rotors. I have to look into tires now.

Wish i could by a z all over again, i would shave so much off of the price for any z that wasnt absolutely perfect. hindsight and education i guess.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:35 AM
  #27  
jray8's Avatar
jray8
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,860
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Default

i inspected my Z when i got it with 75k on it, has the tire feathering, cold gear tranny/differential whine, still love it. You definitely should research cars before buying them, even with all the problems Z's have, they are still great cars and every car manufacturer has their problems, i traded in a 2000 honda S2000 that was driving me crazy with constantly replacing the map sensor and wheel bearing noise. i did all my research and they "tried" to slam me because i still owed on the S, but the only thing they did that i was not ready for was slap on a warranty and get the loan approved and i didnt notice till after i signed it, but i figured i would keep it because you never know when something will pop up, and i would just have to pay $100 to get whatever it is fixed anyhow, so if it does, im gonna make sure its over $100 repair! welcome to the Z club!

Last edited by jray8; Apr 16, 2008 at 09:37 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 02:37 PM
  #29  
xtrmspd's Avatar
xtrmspd
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: Washington
Default

Originally Posted by ColdZ
Maybe it's just my ignorance, but don't they have a checklist they go over to call a car certified pre owned?
You are correct.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 03:30 PM
  #30  
350POWER's Avatar
350POWER
Registered User
iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From: S. CAL
Default

ya alsy........check before buy,
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 04:06 PM
  #31  
zonic03's Avatar
zonic03
Registered User
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 548
Likes: 0
From: southern cali
Default

How much did you pay for your Z?
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:49 PM
  #32  
Spddracer's Avatar
Spddracer
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by ColdZ
Maybe it's just my ignorance, but don't they have a checklist they go over to call a car certified pre owned?
Exactly, There is a very detailed sheet on Nissan preowned program. Ask for a copy of it from your car, Then when everything is marked OK, show them that everything is not OK and make them fix it.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:54 PM
  #33  
The Brickyard Rat's Avatar
The Brickyard Rat
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,940
Likes: 2
From: Sacramento, Ca.
Default

I don't care who the seller is, it is YOUR job to know what your buying.

This is not the dealer's fault, it is yours. Quit whinning & grow up.

When you buy a used car (any car from any seller), you have to take to a mechanic & have it inspected. If seller won't allow it to be inspected, walk.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 12:50 AM
  #34  
xtrmspd's Avatar
xtrmspd
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: Washington
Default

Originally Posted by The Brickyard Rat
I don't care who the seller is, it is YOUR job to know what your buying.

This is not the dealer's fault, it is yours. Quit whinning & grow up.

When you buy a used car (any car from any seller), you have to take to a mechanic & have it inspected. If seller won't allow it to be inspected, walk.
EZ there. I'm sure through out your entire life you have researched and researched everything you ever bought, but most humans (unfortunately) rely on the so called "experts". If something is tagged, for example a car with a window sticker that states what model it is, "most" ppl assume that is what they are getting. With 350's there are no badges that seperate the models.

I agree to the point that he should have researched what you get for each model, but who is going to sit there and go through every nick nack. It's still false advertisement if they posted something other than what they actually sold to a customer.

If it really bothers you, why respond. Let the ppl here chat it up. Someone is asking for advice, so lets be a bit more mature and not say "stop whining & grow up". BTW, you added an extra "n" in whining.

I have an example about taking it to a mechanic before purchasing. I bought an Audi cabrio a couple of years ago (give or take) and it drove fine and looked great. Took it to a mechanic and everything checked out. Until a couple months later when I noticed gas fumes coming out of the car. Unfortunately, my mechanic is not into tearing apart the whole car just to see if everything is good. Anyway, I took it back to the mechanic and told him about the smell. He checked everything and couldn't find what was wrong, until he got into the gas tank itself. The gas tank in these cars are hidden behind the back seat and the seat doesn't fold down. He pulled it apart and found a crack. Apparently, the crack was there for some time and because it was sitting on the lot with the top down, no fumes and not enough movement to have gas seep through the crack.

Oh, that's right, I won the case when we went to court and they had to pay for everything.

My point is, sometimes you can find what's wrong with the car and sometimes the problem doesn't show up until a couple days or so later.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 06:10 AM
  #35  
Magmadragoon's Avatar
Magmadragoon
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Upper Providence, PA
Default

I payed 16,000 for a 2003 350Z Touring in January. I just got new tires, brakes pads, and rotors yesterday.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 06:58 AM
  #36  
zeekle's Avatar
zeekle
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 416
Likes: 0
From: Nashville, TN
Default

Originally Posted by xtrmspd

My point is, sometimes you can find what's wrong with the car and sometimes the problem doesn't show up until a couple days or so later.
Your situation is a lot different than the OP. Unless tank problems are common with the car you are looking at normally you wouldn't expect someone to check for that sort of problem.

Brake/tire wear is a common on every car and honestly that is something anyone that is buying a used car should check out or if they don't and they turn out to be worn out not go out there and play the victim card.

Its one of those situations where sometimes you have to learn as you go and I am sure the next used car he buys (and perhaps new) he will kick the tires and look at them instead of just assuming that the dealer did it for him.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 09:08 AM
  #37  
cspinner's Avatar
cspinner
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Binghamton
Default

Originally Posted by Master Shake
So what exactly is the Certified Pre Owned program all about then? I remember when I was in the market, the Nissan dealerships that I visited claimed their used cars to be CPO -- and also said that only a Nissan dealership can claim CPO on a Nissan product. Consequently, they also were about $2k more from a Nissan dealership, compared to a non-Nissan dealership. Is this just the used car form of the ADM/ADP that some dealers add to new cars?

PS: ADM = Additional Dealer Markup / ADP = Additional Dealer Profit = Complete BS!
Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2008 | 02:15 PM
  #38  
xtrmspd's Avatar
xtrmspd
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
From: Washington
Default

Originally Posted by zeekle
Your situation is a lot different than the OP. Unless tank problems are common with the car you are looking at normally you wouldn't expect someone to check for that sort of problem.

Brake/tire wear is a common on every car and honestly that is something anyone that is buying a used car should check out or if they don't and they turn out to be worn out not go out there and play the victim card.

Its one of those situations where sometimes you have to learn as you go and I am sure the next used car he buys (and perhaps new) he will kick the tires and look at them instead of just assuming that the dealer did it for him.
Brakes are harder to check and most ppl don't know how to check them. Come to think of it, most ppl can't change their own oil. The tire thing, I'll have to agree 1000 percent. If you can't tell that the tire is worn or feathered, then glasses are in order.

Like you said, everyone goes through a learning experience. Some get it and some don't. But we have all gone through it one way or another and hopefully, learned from it. I can't say anything negative about this guy who is asking for opinions about his situation.

Last edited by xtrmspd; Apr 17, 2008 at 02:19 PM.
Reply
Old May 11, 2008 | 02:23 PM
  #39  
j.arnaldo's Avatar
j.arnaldo
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,787
Likes: 0
From: puerto rico
Default

"Certified Pre-owned" plans usually own YOU. The stealership's the last place you wanna go do business with, bro'!
Reply
Old May 11, 2008 | 03:23 PM
  #40  
z4tess's Avatar
z4tess
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: california
Default

I have often questioned certified inspections.Do the dealerships even repair anything?
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:00 PM.