What will it take to compare to a 500hp Evo8?
10-01-2008 | 12:07 PM
#61
And as far as street cars are concerned, AWD+slicks > RWD+slicks.
I think your dig race would be a good match only if the Evo is on street tires.
10-01-2008 | 01:21 PM
#62
Wait, wat? You must have issues to think that. NO ONE BUYS AN EVO/STI/SRT-4/[insert similar here] FOR A NORMAL EVERYDAY CAR. Those people buy Lancers/Imprezas/WRXs/Neons for that. No one in their right mind would pay the cost of one of these and put up with them just as a "normal everyday car". People that buy them know what they are, what they're capable of, and treat them as such.
LMAO@normal everyday car... Z's fit in that category WAY more.
LMAO@normal everyday car... Z's fit in that category WAY more.
Are you kidding me!!! A 2 seater fits the catagory of a normal everyday car instead of a 4 door evo! Anyways, the reason I wrote that in my comment is because I personally know people who have these 3 types of cars and build them because they are so normal looking! Around here you have alot of guys removing those big azz spoilers to look more like regular Lancers and Impreza's and removing the SRT4 emblems to look more like any other Neon! Ask any grandmother to tell you the difference between an EVO and a Lancer and she would look at you funny! All the people I know want to surprise people, thats what I meant! 350Z's dont normally do that.
10-01-2008 | 02:44 PM
#63
Sorry Rays car is making 860rwhp.
10-01-2008 | 03:08 PM
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10-01-2008 | 03:37 PM
#66
You underestimate a RWD car on slicks Tony. There have been a few 1.5's on the site, but you know this community isnt into dragging like the Evo guys. Even giving a .1 advantage to the 60ft to an Evo, the Z will pull harder the 2nd 1/8 mile. Gearing, and no AWDrag helps with that
10-01-2008 | 03:38 PM
#67
this is kind of out of the blue, but i was at the Subaru dealership in Bremerton, WA and they are selling a Black 350z with if i remember correctly 460whp to the wheels, it was clean, everything looked great, i think they were asking around $25,000 give or take a few. The car was def. garage kept and well taken care of. The salesman mentioned to me that all aftermarket work was done at a nissan dealership with papers to prove. It had about $15,000 in engine work done to it. Might be something to check into.
10-01-2008 | 03:40 PM
#68
I don't think so!! A built block will cost 20K by itself; just check GTM Motorsports or any of the other elite builders.
Then you have to get the following:
Exhaust system ( Greddy TT is my choice)- $1,300
F/I system - (Greddy / PowerLabs) - 7K
Engine management system- (Haltech/Motech /ProEFI) - 3k
Tuning - 3-5K
Then you have to get the following:
Exhaust system ( Greddy TT is my choice)- $1,300
F/I system - (Greddy / PowerLabs) - 7K
Engine management system- (Haltech/Motech /ProEFI) - 3k
Tuning - 3-5K
10-01-2008 | 05:01 PM
#69
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I'm not an expert because i've never built a 350z to 650rhp, but 20K for a built block! Cmon, Yeah they are probably charging you: labor $200 an hour + interest + your life savings + throw some money in for the hell of it = 20k
You can get that cheaper, you don't have to get GT to do everything for you
You can get that cheaper, you don't have to get GT to do everything for you
10-01-2008 | 05:02 PM
#70
some of these prices yall are quoting are crazy!!! $15,000 for a turbo set up? i see vendors offer turbo kit and install for around $8,000 all day and then i see long blocks for less than $10,000.
10-01-2008 | 06:18 PM
#71
I'm not an expert because i've never built a 350z to 650rhp, but 20K for a built block! Cmon, Yeah they are probably charging you: labor $200 an hour + interest + your life savings + throw some money in for the hell of it = 20k
You can get that cheaper, you don't have to get GT to do everything for you
You can get that cheaper, you don't have to get GT to do everything for you
Ignorance is bliss. Of course a BLOCK alone is not $20K thats common sense.
If you were to take your car from STOCK to 650whp capable everywhere ----> ie. motor, suspension, engine management, tranny/clutch/fw, brakes, tuning and a shop did all the machine work, labor, install of supporting parts (guages, exhausts, testpipes, fuel systems, etc), you are $30K EASY. Labor is $80-100/hr for Z/G shops....
r0csfinest:
Vendors doing turbo kits for $8000 are for basic kits, installed and tuned likely with that kits "basic" EM, no additional mods they will talk you into throughout the process. I did a WELL SUPPORTED stock block setup for $8000. That included RFS, guages, HKS ignition, injectors, UTEC, tuner reg, but I did my own install!!! With a shop doing labor on the things I did it would be over $10,000 EASY.
If 600+whp builds were "only" $15K more people would have them.
10-01-2008 | 07:19 PM
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10-01-2008 | 07:26 PM
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Like I said, it's something to consider.
All of the LSx platform cars are relatively recent and come with most of the amenities of a car on the level of the 350Z or Evo.
10-01-2008 | 09:04 PM
#76
I was referring to the OP's Evo. My car is 3280lbs without me, whats your Evo weigh?
You underestimate a RWD car on slicks Tony. There have been a few 1.5's on the site, but you know this community isnt into dragging like the Evo guys. Even giving a .1 advantage to the 60ft to an Evo, the Z will pull harder the 2nd 1/8 mile. Gearing, and no AWDrag helps with that
You underestimate a RWD car on slicks Tony. There have been a few 1.5's on the site, but you know this community isnt into dragging like the Evo guys. Even giving a .1 advantage to the 60ft to an Evo, the Z will pull harder the 2nd 1/8 mile. Gearing, and no AWDrag helps with that
Another thing you're forgetting, us drag-focused Evos have one less gear shift and AWESOME gearing for the 1/4 in general (since we prefer the 5-speed over the MR's 6-speed). For instance, I run through the traps still in fourth and once I get my head work done I'll be spinning it a bit past 9k (thus holding off the shift to 5th even longer). I love not having another shift to worry about. That extra gear however would do wonders for a highway pull against one of you built ****ers.
10-01-2008 | 10:39 PM
#78
For some reason, something seems wrong with this. At least the Evo part (since STis and their small turbo/large displacement combo loses steam above 6k). Alberto can attest to this... I've NEVER been beat by ANY bolt-on Z from the time I was stock running neck and neck with a bolt-on '06 from a roll to easily walking a full bolt-on Z when I only had 3 mods and no tune.
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10-02-2008 | 10:05 AM
#80
Mine weighed in at 3190 back at MIR. I remember a few Z's coming in less than that. Yours picked up extra weight from your twins.
Another thing you're forgetting, us drag-focused Evos have one less gear shift and AWESOME gearing for the 1/4 in general (since we prefer the 5-speed over the MR's 6-speed). For instance, I run through the traps still in fourth and once I get my head work done I'll be spinning it a bit past 9k (thus holding off the shift to 5th even longer). I love not having another shift to worry about. That extra gear however would do wonders for a highway pull against one of you built ****ers.
Another thing you're forgetting, us drag-focused Evos have one less gear shift and AWESOME gearing for the 1/4 in general (since we prefer the 5-speed over the MR's 6-speed). For instance, I run through the traps still in fourth and once I get my head work done I'll be spinning it a bit past 9k (thus holding off the shift to 5th even longer). I love not having another shift to worry about. That extra gear however would do wonders for a highway pull against one of you built ****ers.
You forget my 4th gear is good for 140+mph now with 8000rpm's and 3.3FD
Shifting to 5th down the 1320 FTL...