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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Hey guys, so i just got my 08 enth Z acouple of weeks ago. In december 2008 i bought a 2008 Honda S2000 CR. I hated the CR and always wanted a Z so found a dealership that would do a 1:1 trade. So obviously i did it. So the dealership just called me and apparently the S2000 has bad frame damage. The back panel had been repainted (the nissan dealership spotted this) but they went through with the deal anways. The guy sounded very angry and just wanted to know if i had known about the frame damage and where i bought the car and was asking a bunch of questions. Legally is there anything they can do to take my baby away??
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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wow, sounds like you have yourself a predicament

Im sure if you can prove the documents you signed when you originally bought the s2k doesnt have anything about the frame damage then you should be able to get out of it. But thats not the same for the Honda dealer you bought it from. If they kept that info from you then you could have some sort of legal suit against them.

Good luck with everything
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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im not a lawyer or anything but i dont think they can make you return the car. thats just what i think
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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They can probably sue you though. I'd start documenting if I were you all of your exchanges and communication.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Well the car i bought used with 3500 miles. They claimed it was in mint condition with no damage. When buying a used car they dont have to legally disclose any damage.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by booey1979
They can probably sue you though. I'd start documenting if I were you all of your exchanges and communication.
i don't think they can sue him at all, if he states he didn't know the car had any damage... they would have to prove that he was aware that the car had damage in which he didn't so it would be impossible to prove it.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by siruis
Well the car i bought used with 3500 miles. They claimed it was in mint condition with no damage. When buying a used car they dont have to legally disclose any damage.
If they don't have to disclose damage, then why would you have to? I wouldn't worry.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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So how's the brand KNEW Z?
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by zand02max
So how's the brand KNEW Z?
i think he's talking about the cr having 3500miles when he bought it or another thought he bought a dealer demo Z with that amount of miles which hasn't been titled so its considered new.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by carlos305
i think he's talking about the cr having 3500miles when he bought it or another thought he bought a dealer demo Z with that amount of miles which hasn't been titled so its considered new.
LOL!
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by carlos305
i don't think they can sue him at all, if he states he didn't know the car had any damage... they would have to prove that he was aware that the car had damage in which he didn't so it would be impossible to prove it.
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as long you didn't know about the damages you should be fine. . .the dealership should have checked that out in the first place anyway. now if your lying about knowing about it and they can somehow trace back to the time of damages when it was being repaired, then your screwed. Other than that OP FTW
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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The z i got only had 100 miles, so wasnt a demo. The CR has 3500 miles. I am thinking that the dealership who i bought the CR from fixed it up, but while i had no the only time it was in a shop was at the HOnda dealership for a oil change. I bought the CR from a well known Ford dealership called Freeway Ford. I will file a complaint with teh BBB against them
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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and the Nissan dealership when they inspected the CR they saw it had been painted and inspected the car completely. THey tried to make me add an extra $1000 but i wouldnt and they there were aware that there had been some damage because they inspected it themselves.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Do yourself a favor and and seek legal counsel instead of asking a bunch of random people their opinions. With all due respect, 99% of what you are going to hear is a guess. And if someone does happen to know what they are talking about, they might live in a state that has different laws than CO.

For what it is worth, when you buy a used car from a dealership in NC the dealer has to provide you a document that answers the following question: "Has this vehicle been damaged by collision or other occurance to the extent that damages exceed 25% of its value at the time of the collision or other occurance." If you buy from an individual there is a similar question on the title that the seller has to answer: "Has been involved in a collision or other occurance to the extent that the cost or repair exceeds 25% of fair market value."
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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Dang dunno wish I NEW
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Orrah
Dang dunno wish I NEW
Wow, a hycuk that might have been funny if you were the first person to do that.

Seek a lawyer just to be sure, but i think your fine. Play it safe.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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The term buyer beware goes for dealers too.The onus was on them to inspect your car before the deal was done.They elected not to so they do not have a leg to stand on.Don't let them harrass you.They already know this and are trying to get out of their own problem.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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I think you will be fine. My guess is liability goes to the Ford dealer you bought it from.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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So my neighbor who has a Z06 had this happen to him actually, he bought a car from a Chevy dealership.. The lot boy wrecked the brand new vette, the dealer fixed it in house, never reported it and sold the car as new to my neighbor (nice old retired man) Well he took it in to get some warranty work done (same place) and the unknowing service manager told him his warranty is denied because his car had been wrecked! He never wrecked the car obviously.

Well after some threats of lawsuit the dealer owned up to the fraud and upgraded him! With a brand new Z06..

I hate shady dealers.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Yeah i think i should be fine. In colorado used car damage or anything doesnt have to be disclosed, and they did inspect the CR before the trade, they shoulda have done a more thorough done instead of waiting untill now. If anything i hope they can sue the Ford Dealership because their a POS.
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