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Old 02-04-2017, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dboyzalter
No way for us to know if you skipped a tooth is your front timing cover off?





Because you didnt need to remove all that to replace just the water pump..


Anywho... Just cleaned up some parts.







Now im going to go take the car cover off the car and hope it starts and take it for its short by weakly ride.

Hey man! Thanks for the quick reply, no no no the cover is not off haha. I watched a video and the guy said if the chain shifts sideways or something, that means I wouldve "popped" the cams, but I wanted to get some input from you guys
Old 02-04-2017, 02:18 PM
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Backs fit fine. Had to dremel the hell out of the fronts. Bedded them in nicely and have a nice firm pedal

Old 02-04-2017, 02:23 PM
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I have no idea but that chain is pretty happy in its spot. If you just loosened the chain from the passenger side access hole and then removed the water pump from the driver's side access hole I don't think the chain would have much chance of moving off anything...

But the question is are you willing to chance it?
Old 02-04-2017, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dboyzalter
I have no idea but that chain is pretty happy in its spot. If you just loosened the chain from the passenger side access hole and then removed the water pump from the driver's side access hole I don't think the chain would have much chance of moving off anything...

But the question is are you willing to chance it?
True. Just hard to tell really. Might just simply be worth taking the cover off, or just saying f*ck it. I'm pretty good at over thinking things and being to concerned or careful on this stuff leads to trouble
Old 02-04-2017, 06:12 PM
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Ok seriously does anyone have any tricks to take off their coils?

I have to take them off for the 3rd time cause I hear something else not right.

But the upper a arm bolts are literally impossible to remove with out putting serious work and scratching my coils since the springs have no gaps to let the bolt pass.

I'm seriously over this suspension. I've never had this much trouble installing and tuning ancoil system before.
Old 02-04-2017, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CK_32
Ok seriously does anyone have any tricks to take off their coils?

I have to take them off for the 3rd time cause I hear something else not right.

But the upper a arm bolts are literally impossible to remove with out putting serious work and scratching my coils since the springs have no gaps to let the bolt pass.

I'm seriously over this suspension. I've never had this much trouble installing and tuning ancoil system before.
Remove the 3 bolts on the top hat holding it in, move to side and pull bolts.

Drive to Vegas , hand it to me and............ it will be good in a few hours
Old 02-05-2017, 04:58 AM
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I don't know about the an easy coil removal... But this lower ball joint sure doesn't want to come out of its home.
Old 02-05-2017, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dboyzalter
I don't know about the an easy coil removal... But this lower ball joint sure doesn't want to come out of its home.
I thought about attempting my lowers but was really worried about effing it up. I let my mechanic do it. Lol. The camber kit was easy enough but it's my daily and didn't want to end up taking a tow truck ride.
Old 02-05-2017, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by the rook
I thought about attempting my lowers but was really worried about effing it up. I let my mechanic do it. Lol. The camber kit was easy enough but it's my daily and didn't want to end up taking a tow truck ride.
Yeah im leaving some ugly marks on my aluminum and it hasn't budged at all so I think ill put this on the back burner till I might actually need some.



My poor impact was not happy. I think a beefy vice and a BFH might be the only thing that gets this off.
Old 02-05-2017, 09:44 AM
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^^^ I did those myself without removing the knuckle recently... it was hell.
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Originally Posted by pyshin
^^^ I did those myself without removing the knuckle recently... it was hell.
I think you mentioned it to me. Did you rent the kit from advanced?
Either way from what I'm seeing and hearing, I'm happy with my decision not to dive into it. Lol
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I ranted the things from advanced and it didn't work out well... It might be easier when they are still on the car because my vice couldn't hold it tight enough and my impact didn't have the *****... O well...

After I got over my failure I managed to get some stuff done this afternoon...


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Originally Posted by dboyzalter
I ranted the things from advanced and it didn't work out well... It might be easier when they are still on the car because my vice couldn't hold it tight enough and my impact didn't have the *****... O well...

After I got over my failure I managed to get some stuff done this afternoon...


I noticed you posted this pic in both the "as it sits" and "whatchu done today" threads.

I know this cuz I thanked the stars twice that you're not my neighbor.

Maybe I'm OCD or something but that sight would literally drive me to drink heavier, er, uhhhh, heavily. * hic *
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It captures both themes so well I had to copy the link and share. Its a rare day when they are uncovered at the same time.

But now they are all wrapped up... Hopefully the empty shell is gone by the end of the month. Just have the brake lines the gas lines and the 1 good door and the rest is scrap metal.
Old 02-06-2017, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Remove the 3 bolts on the top hat holding it in, move to side and pull bolts.

Drive to Vegas , hand it to me and............ it will be good in a few hours
Shoooooooot....


Heck no!


I just hate this beilstein design. Who ever made these did not install them. The bolts for the upper control arm literally can no be removed or installed with these coils in.

And so far that's the only way I've seen coils be installed for these cars. I'm about to just remove the steering tack and sway and just drop everything at this point. Still seems easier than forcing these arm bolts in.
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Originally Posted by dboyzalter
It captures both themes so well I had to copy the link and share. Its a rare day when they are uncovered at the same time.

But now they are all wrapped up... Hopefully the empty shell is gone by the end of the month. Just have the brake lines the gas lines and the 1 good door and the rest is scrap metal.
Just rashin' ya, Mike. I live a 'hood where there are a number of cars in various states of disrepair and pretty much oxidizing back into the Earth. Laff.....
Old 02-06-2017, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MicVelo
Just rashin' ya, Mike. I live a 'hood where there are a number of cars in various states of disrepair and pretty much oxidizing back into the Earth. Laff.....

Ugh, I watched a 68' Camaro rot into the
ground down the road from me. The guy wouldnt let it go. He was "going to fix it up amd drive it". I literally watched it dissappear over 10 years.

I will never be that guy.
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Yea those suck.


Here in California that's every other house. Some guys even have like 5 or 6 at a time. And all they do is sit under tarps or overs. As you drive by and watch their flat tires rot and crack further and further...


Sucks. Im lucky tho my 2 closest neighbors are finally car guys who fix and repair their cars. I have a mint resto 62 bel air and a mint Chevy C100 to the other side.


Everyone on the block calls me the "tuner guy" cause my car is "JDM"..
Old 02-06-2017, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CK_32
Shoooooooot....


And so far that's the only way I've seen coils be installed for these cars. I'm about to just remove the steering tack and sway and just drop everything at this point. Still seems easier than forcing these arm bolts in.
You should start posting some pictures so we can understand what in the world you are talking about... Mine went in easy peasy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WsS79_M-ac

Go to 0:46.. That bolt comes out on OEM springs no problem. But with my new coils, being stiffer and having more and tighter coils. That bolt doesn't fit through the coil spacing. And needs about 1/2" of the bolt to passs the coil to be removed.

As you can see the coils are much tighter on the B14's.. where the OEM was a cake walk due to the spring spread.

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And of course the bolt has to pass through the very top and last coil section where it starts to close off.


That ONE bolt literally is 90% of the time spend on this install/removal. I think I've spend 4 total hours on that one bolt on each side. Through out my 6 hours total of install/uninstalling my suspension. Because either the coil is in the way... Or the arm isn't at the right angle to let the bolt pass through.


The rest of the time is mostly trying to find where I put down the last tool/socket I need

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