I normally use Chevron but I used SHELL last night and...
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From: The Nasty Nati (Cincinnati)
Originally posted by KONVERTER
its the thing im wearing in my sic / avaiter...
http://x.oakley.com/catalog/display/...dark_brown/s_m
its the thing im wearing in my sic / avaiter...
http://x.oakley.com/catalog/display/...dark_brown/s_m
5 hunnit bonez???? GEEEZ O PETE!!
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From: ATX
Originally posted by KONVERTER
really all gass is the same when you think about it...
it all ocmes off the same tankers...
really all gass is the same when you think about it...
it all ocmes off the same tankers...
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I can't see how any different gas company would make much of a difference in IL, since IL requires almost all gas companies to use 10% ethanol. That damn corn oil doesn't exactly burn very well. Chalk up another one to stupid government...
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Originally posted by Zilverb@ck
Actually, Chevron, Texaco, and Shell are all the same. They are all owned by the same people. It is what is put in the gas afterwards that makes it good gas. ANd Exxon and Mobil are owned by the same people too. Just an FYI
Actually, Chevron, Texaco, and Shell are all the same. They are all owned by the same people. It is what is put in the gas afterwards that makes it good gas. ANd Exxon and Mobil are owned by the same people too. Just an FYI
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From: Novi, MI
Originally posted by SlamMan
Damn, foiled again.
Thats pretty interesting info. Do you happen to know what issue of SCC that was in.
Damn, foiled again.
Thats pretty interesting info. Do you happen to know what issue of SCC that was in.
Electronics have thrown a curve to many things once known. There are so many tricks that it's not funny. The good news is that by "upgrading" to the latest software, you can find some mad horsepower in stock tune...it may not pass emissions, but it will be fast!
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Originally posted by overlord tom
Like I said... In LA you don't have to worry about getting your a** kicked for wearing it. Hell I think it's cool. I think it's even cooler you own a Z. I'm just saying that there are areas of NYC where wearing that is offensive to the gangs. NYC sucks IMO and why I moved here from PA. I "know" where all the cool peeps are.
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I'm from NYC and it's mad kewl there. just moved here to LA. Nice to see that the urban legends of gangs in NYC is still alive and well but they are just that. legends
Originally posted by overlord tom
Like I said... In LA you don't have to worry about getting your a** kicked for wearing it. Hell I think it's cool. I think it's even cooler you own a Z. I'm just saying that there are areas of NYC where wearing that is offensive to the gangs. NYC sucks IMO and why I moved here from PA. I "know" where all the cool peeps are.
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I'm from NYC and it's mad kewl there. just moved here to LA. Nice to see that the urban legends of gangs in NYC is still alive and well but they are just that. legends
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Originally posted by Mr. Potato Head
Saying "the drag racers use nitromethane" is quite inaccurate. Only one class in all of drag racing uses this fuel. It is Top Fuel (and TF Funny Car). No other class uses it. We use VP C10 which is about 110 octane I believe and we run about a 12:1 compression. This is one reason I think 11.5:1 is too high for people to upgrade their street car pistons. Anyways, the flames exiting the headers of the Top Fuel cars is indeed fuel. But it is not due to nitromethane from the power stroke. It is just unburnt fuel that "collects" in the headers. Even street cars with 87 octane can have fuel burn in the exhaust system. And don't fool yourself, Top Fuel cars are supersupercharged and run high compression. They blow up every pass down the strip! The Z is hardly tuned to that extreme. If you want to "beat" on your car without worrying about the knock sensor, just use premium and if you are crazy, put in a little octane booster and save some crazy money instead of buying 100 octane gas.
Saying "the drag racers use nitromethane" is quite inaccurate. Only one class in all of drag racing uses this fuel. It is Top Fuel (and TF Funny Car). No other class uses it. We use VP C10 which is about 110 octane I believe and we run about a 12:1 compression. This is one reason I think 11.5:1 is too high for people to upgrade their street car pistons. Anyways, the flames exiting the headers of the Top Fuel cars is indeed fuel. But it is not due to nitromethane from the power stroke. It is just unburnt fuel that "collects" in the headers. Even street cars with 87 octane can have fuel burn in the exhaust system. And don't fool yourself, Top Fuel cars are supersupercharged and run high compression. They blow up every pass down the strip! The Z is hardly tuned to that extreme. If you want to "beat" on your car without worrying about the knock sensor, just use premium and if you are crazy, put in a little octane booster and save some crazy money instead of buying 100 octane gas.
Nissan explicitly states that it does not condone the use of fuel additives of ANY kind...not even injector cleaner. They didn't say anything about Turbo Blue, however.
I don't use it that much anyway: at $3.50 /gal, it's only for "special" events. I don't even get the cool exhaust smell that the old hot rods do...man I love that smell.
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Originally posted by archman350z
The good news is that by "upgrading" to the latest software, you can find some mad horsepower in stock tune...it may not pass emissions, but it will be fast!
The good news is that by "upgrading" to the latest software, you can find some mad horsepower in stock tune...it may not pass emissions, but it will be fast!
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From: Metairie ,LA
Shell is now selling gas called V-power in New Orleans that is 94 octane. Its only $1.57 a gallon. 3 cents more that the 93 octane from Exxon. Anyone else see this in there city? Im waiting for my gas to run out so I can fill it up some time this week. Maybe this might give me more MPG!!!
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Originally posted by SlamMan
What do you mean by this?
What do you mean by this?
I'm considering getting into the body electronics business...there's a lot of potential here too.
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Actually, Chevron bought Texaco a few years ago. I work for Shell ( in New Orleans ) & we bought Pennzoil last year. While it's true that all petroleum stock is basically the same as it comes from the reservoir, it's what is done with it in the refinery that dictates it's quality as well as the condition of the tanks it's stored in while at your local station. Additives play a large part in this & is the reason that we're touting better mileage & cleaner emissions from the V-power formula. I'm still breaking in my G Coupe so I can't give ya any data right now but FWIW, I used to run Chevron exclusively until I went to work for Shell ( I like the Techron additive ).
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Well, I filled up for only the third time, and checked my gas milage.
Between fillup 1&2 24.8 MPG, fillup 2&3 24.9 MPG. (calculated using miles gone/gallons per fillup)
So, I am consistant with about 25 MPG. First fillup was at 91 octane, last two were from the same Shell 93 octane station. We'll see as time goes on.
Between fillup 1&2 24.8 MPG, fillup 2&3 24.9 MPG. (calculated using miles gone/gallons per fillup)
So, I am consistant with about 25 MPG. First fillup was at 91 octane, last two were from the same Shell 93 octane station. We'll see as time goes on.
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It's a common myth that higher octane fuels burn slower than lower octane fuels. Truth of the matter is, octane is merely a fuel's resistance to uncontrolled combustion. Higher octane fuel has a higher resistance to uncontrolled combustion (i.e. detonation) than lower octane fuel. And that allows you to run advanced ignition timing. Advanced ignition timing starts the spark sooner allowing the a/f mixture to burn and build up exhaust gas. That exhaust gas then builds up pressure to push the piston down on the downstroke. More pressure = more power.
If you were to run advanced ignition timing on lower octane fuel, then the pressure that builds from exhaust gas may cause the a/f mixture to uncontrollably ignite (ala detonation) -- high pressure = high temperature.
For more information regarding octane, I shall defer you to part 3 of 4 of the Gasoline FAQ: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasol.../preamble.html
For more information regarding ignition timing, detonation (uncontrolled combustion AFTER the spark), and pre-ignition (uncontrolled combustion BEFORE the spark), I shall defer you to this excellent article from Streetrod Stuff: http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Articl...e_Basics_I.php
Michael.
If you were to run advanced ignition timing on lower octane fuel, then the pressure that builds from exhaust gas may cause the a/f mixture to uncontrollably ignite (ala detonation) -- high pressure = high temperature.
For more information regarding octane, I shall defer you to part 3 of 4 of the Gasoline FAQ: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasol.../preamble.html
For more information regarding ignition timing, detonation (uncontrolled combustion AFTER the spark), and pre-ignition (uncontrolled combustion BEFORE the spark), I shall defer you to this excellent article from Streetrod Stuff: http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Articl...e_Basics_I.php
Michael.
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Originally posted by Mean Gene
Actually, Chevron bought Texaco a few years ago. I work for Shell ( in New Orleans ) & we bought Pennzoil last year. While it's true that all petroleum stock is basically the same as it comes from the reservoir, it's what is done with it in the refinery that dictates it's quality as well as the condition of the tanks it's stored in while at your local station. Additives play a large part in this & is the reason that we're touting better mileage & cleaner emissions from the V-power formula. I'm still breaking in my G Coupe so I can't give ya any data right now but FWIW, I used to run Chevron exclusively until I went to work for Shell ( I like the Techron additive ).
Actually, Chevron bought Texaco a few years ago. I work for Shell ( in New Orleans ) & we bought Pennzoil last year. While it's true that all petroleum stock is basically the same as it comes from the reservoir, it's what is done with it in the refinery that dictates it's quality as well as the condition of the tanks it's stored in while at your local station. Additives play a large part in this & is the reason that we're touting better mileage & cleaner emissions from the V-power formula. I'm still breaking in my G Coupe so I can't give ya any data right now but FWIW, I used to run Chevron exclusively until I went to work for Shell ( I like the Techron additive ).
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