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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Hi everybody,
Do you have the same experience that I have?

When I bought my z, I found three broken parts that I have to wait for two weeks to fix them. Also, I have a question to ask. Can anyone tell me about your z (if you have the touring with automatic shift)? I find out that when I try to accerate my z from 0 to 30 , it takes too long ( I mean way way too long and the sound from the engine is funny).
I have to step on the gas up to 3000rpm to feel the speed. Is it right thing to do from 0 mph.
Please help me out, and tell me how to treat my z
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Dude are you for real?
This post makes no sense. First of all what three parts are broken. Second: "I have to step on the gas up to 3000rpm to feel the speed. Is it right thing to do from 0 mph." - What the hell does this mean?
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:01 AM
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when you say the sound of the engine is funny, do you mean funny as in different than any other time you step on the gas? check the title on the car, make sure it hasn't been wrecked. also, you say 3 broken parts, but you don't describe what parts they were? was the car used?
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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I'm lost 2, is the car new, used, ect?

That would have a lot to do with it. And what are the broken parts? If they are engine related, then yes, I am assuming your engine would be a little sluggish.

You need to be a little more specific if you want specific answers!
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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its gotta be a troll..a damn funny one too heh
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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TARZAN NO LIKE FAST!!! MANY PART EAT ****
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Yes it is a brand new car I bought it for two weeks,and it has three broken parts. The first one is the exterior plastic part (76891-cd000 filler) between the driver side window and the small rear window.
The second part is the front bumper cover (62023-cd000) that covers the area that you set your towing nut.
The last one is the leather seat (passenager side) a hugh bleached spot.they said cannot be fixed

When I step on the gas about 2000 rmp. other cars can pass my car easily. Who can tell me how much time for my touring with automatic to get from 0 to 60 mph. I will check the time from 0 to 60 today.
I am going to make a phone call to nissan to cpmplain about it.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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My dealer promises they will fix the problems today. let see what will happen. Do you know how many times I have been at the dealership five times to fix my car. Is it a lemon?
I think I just have bad luck to buy a good car haha
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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let the dealer look at the car. They should treat you fairly well, you just spent about 30 g's with them. You should have inspected the car before delivery. 0-30 the car should take off. if it sounds funny and other cars are passing you I'd say you might have a problem.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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Was this a new car or how many miles are on it? The problems you desbribe are only cosmedic but regardless, you should not have had them. I find it hard to believe the dealer sold you a new car in that condition.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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well, the broken parts stuff is your fault to be honest. From what your post describes, you bought it that way, and are complaining about it after the fact? right?

Also, with the automatic transmission. Other cars pass you when you step on the gas? Are they racing you? I would never buy a sports car with an auto but that's just me. it was your choice to purchase this thing, you test drove it, and shelled out $30K to buy it. live with it, or supercharge it.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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Hi JFritz,
No they did not tell me anything about the broken parts. They did not know the problems at the first place, but they did not treat me right. They seem don't care after I bought the car.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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none of the parts you described are going to magicly break... the towing cover wont magicly snap, nor the side pillar peice. you have to have done something to them. the bleached seat is the biggest, cause the seat doesnt bleach itself.

as for performance, are you putting the pedal to the floor? there are cars that can beat the Z, but you should have an idea of what they are. an accord will not be beating any Z manual or auto. but if its like an S2k thats racing, yes he could beat you, same for STI, evo, corvette ect, but if your talkin the chrysler minivan passed you with you redlining it, something isnt right.

you should have no problem getting to 60 in under 6 seconds in an automatic, Im talking just going from brake to gas down to the floor, no clever techniques or anything, just straight GO. in full auto mode, no manumatic.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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YAN where in chicago are you located? I'd like to check out your car.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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In Texas you have three days to get out of almost any contract, including a car purchase. Look up the laws...
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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well,

they didn't tell you anything about the broken parts? could you visually see the "broken" parts when you bought the car? don't blame nissan for a bad build, it sounds like the dealer didn't take care of it.

they don't care? unfortunately almost every dealer in the U.S. has this same attitude. find one that cares is all i can say. talk to a manager if you want to stick with that dealership. let them know everything that you've mentioned on this board.

you've been to the dealer ship 5 times already? for the same problems?
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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CW....your right, almost every state has a 72 hour "cooling off period".....usually reserved for any purchase that is over 10,000.00

Yan, How could you sit in the car even for 2 seconds at the dealership and not notice a "huge" bleach spot on the seat?????
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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Considering it's been to the dealership 5+ times, it's probably beyond the 72 hour cooling off period. I understand not noticing little things here and there, but I'd go over the car with a fine toothed comb when I got it home. And, if any one thing was wrong, I'd take it back the next day and very calmly explain that they can either fix it now, or take the whole car back. I would think that would get you to the front of the service line.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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I wonder if Yan and Lor are related.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Too funny Mike.

I think you're screwed in terms of broken exterior pieces. The dealer will state that they sold the car to you in that condition and you bought it. I can see that you might not have noticed the exterior parts, but a big bleach stain on the seat? That had to have been pretty obvious.

As to the car being slow, it shouldn't be. As was mentioned, the automatic should do 0-60 in under six seconds with no problem. If it isn't you should get the car checked out, or better yet, have somebody from the board come by and see it.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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Yan, power doesnt really pick up til 3500RPMS and beyond. Get your RPMS up a bit. Lounge the car forward with a quick blip of the throttle and let off. Then quickly mash it all the way down. Car should pull very hard. Also, the more miles on the car the faster it will be. A new engine isnt going to be as fast. I can tell you that.

Dealer should take care of every piece. My dealer takes good care of me.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Not English, that's for sure. I think someone is pulling our collective legs.

Yan - take it back and get a 6MT.
Yan is probably inexperience and was too excited about the car (overlooked the flaws). Now he needs help and all you can contribute is critizing his language. and some of you even called him a troll....WTF? This forum is supposed to be the friendliest forum on earth. Show your Z spirit.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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Yan- I have a 2004 Enth. with the Auto tranny and it screams when I step on it. To go even faster, shut off A/C and traction control
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Yan, If that car is still in its break in period? I would not recommend gassing the car like that.

Also, the salesman is required to go over the car with you and the both of you inspect the car, and he tells you everything about the car, its features, how the seats recline, radio, ect.

So, how did you miss the bleach spot?

If he did not show the features of the car, ensure you mark that down when you get your survey in the mail.

This dealer reminds me of my dealer here.

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Yan is probably inexperience and was too excited about the car (overlooked the flaws). Now he needs help and all you can contribute is critizing his language. and some of you even called him a troll....WTF? This forum is supposed to be the friendliest forum on earth. Show your Z spirit.
haha, SweatyPalm, reference this [URL=https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46435] for the friendliest forum and z spirit showing gratitude for a newbie and his honest questions.

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Originally posted by Yan
Hi everybody,
Do you have the same experience that I have?

When I bought my z, I found three broken parts that I have to wait for two weeks to fix them. Also, I have a question to ask. Can anyone tell me about your z (if you have the touring with automatic shift)? I find out that when I try to accerate my z from 0 to 30 , it takes too long ( I mean way way too long and the sound from the engine is funny).
I have to step on the gas up to 3000rpm to feel the speed. Is it right thing to do from 0 mph.
Please help me out, and tell me how to treat my z
Thank you
Yan
Hey man, did you mean...

Hi everybody.
Have you had the same experience that I had?

When I bought my Z, I found it had three broken parts. I will have to wait two weeks to have them fixed. Also, I have a question for those who have the Touring model with automatic. It seems to take too long when I accelerate from 0 to 30. (I mean an extremely long time and the engine produces an unusual sound.) I have to accelerate over 3,000 RPMS before I notice an increase in speed. Is this normal performance for accelerating from a dead stop?

Any help would be appreciated. And any advice on how to treat my Z?

Thank you.
Yan
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by SweatyPalm
Yan is probably inexperience and was too excited about the car (overlooked the flaws). Now he needs help and all you can contribute is critizing his language. and some of you even called him a troll....WTF? This forum is supposed to be the friendliest forum on earth. Show your Z spirit.
Well said.

Leave the guy alone. English probably isnt his first language. Many of you have shown your true colors, regardless or not if this thread is a joke. Try acting your age.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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haha, SweatyPalm, reference this [URL=https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46435] for the friendliest forum and z spirit showing gratitude for a newbie and his honest questions.
JFritz, here's the difference between Yan and U and I think you have to know what you did wrong. U said even a $20K neon can beat the Z (wrong fact)....you were looking for a war.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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Hmm, Car and Driver

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1868

Dodge Neon SRT-4
1 2 3

Just think of it as Frankeneon.
BY TONY SWAN
PHOTOGRAPHY DAVID DEWHURST
December 2002

One look reveals the probable character of the beast, so let's just cut right to the quick. The Neon SRT-4 rips to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, to 100 in 13.8, covers a quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 102 mph, and keeps on huffin' all the way to 153 mph.

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http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=6
The 350Z Touring's 5.7-second run to 60 mph and 14.3-second quarter-mile

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Different mags quote different times, but here's Car and Driver. Of course there are different conditions and whatever, but they seem to run side by side. Why is that so offensive?

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no car is going to do anything below 3000 rpm or "rmp" should i say...

if you want the car to move.. you need to FLOOR IT... below 40MPH put the car in 1st if your using manual shift mode... you cant expect to pass people in 5th gear in manual mode by flooring it...

did you look at the car before you bought it? i dont see how i would miss a bleech spot on a seat while sitting in the car...

good luck to you...
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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I don't know if this thread is BS. But with any car you have to know how to drive it fast. You have to know the car as far as Hp, Torque, rev speed, redline, etc. etc. You can take the same car with 2 different drivers and get drastically different results with speed. I know most of you know this.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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I think Yan got his point across fine. The Internet is not the place to criticize writing. We all understood him didn't we?

Originally posted by Pure Tremble
Yan, power doesnt really pick up til 3500RPMS and beyond.

Also, the more miles on the car the faster it will be. A new engine isnt going to be as fast. I can tell you that.
Anyway, what PT said is right. I have an AT and the engine will get faster/less sluggish the more you drive it and break it in. And the gas mileage will improve too.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Hi everyone,
I am sorry about my english skills, English is my third language.
Let me tell you my story. Three weeks ago i went to a dealer to purchase a 350z. They told me they did not have any 350z with automatic, so I did not take a test drive. Because I believed that Nissan 350z should be a good car, I put my deposit down. They told me that they would find the color I liked (Black). Two days later, they called me back and told me they found a black 350z with 50 miles. On that Friday NIGHT, I went to the dealer and purchased the car. I did not have a chance to look at the car and to test drive the car, because I trusted them.It was almost 8:30 pm, I was so tired to do anything, so I just gave them the money and took the car. Next day, I drove my z for a test drive, suddenly I heard some cracking sound from the piece on the driver side window and I went back to the dealer and asked them to fix it. They told me that I had to wait for a week to get the part, then I waited, Later I found out the rear windshield washer was not working , then I went back to the dealer who fixed the washer in an hour.

Today, I went back to the dealer to fix the problems. Yes , they did fix the problems, but they could never fix my feelings about my z and their dealership.

I understood those were not major problems, but somehow it changed my feelings about nissan.

I know that Nissan 350z is a good car, I am just having a bad luck . That is it.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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Hi everyone again,

Yes, I have no experience for racing cars and do not know anything about sporty cars.

How many miles do I drive to break in the engine ( my z has 800 miles now)? What should I do to take care of my car? i am going to bring my car to a aftermarket shop for a test drive. I do not trust my dealer anymore
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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I am sorry me again,
What is the limit of rpm when I step on the gas from zero mph? because when I step on the gas little bit over 2500rmp, I hear some strange noise from the engine. Is it normal?
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Hi Yan....

dont bring your car to an aftermarket shop.. they will mess it up...

go on an open road or a big diserted parking lot... and then FLOOR IT.. push that accelerator to the ground! be prepared to lift off it and hit the break!

2 stories for you...

First one...

The dealer I bought my car from I would never walk into again... Infact I drive my car 50 miles for service now... I wish I bought myc ar from the other dealership... but thats how things work out...

other story...

the last car i bought i wanted a certain way... they found one at a dealership 100 miles away... i did all the paper work etc.. just waited to take delivery.. they drove it over that night and i went to pick it up the next day.. before i signed papers to take delivery they INSISTED i walked around the car and made sure everything was good and INSISTED i test drove the car...

then they let me sign the papers to take delivery...
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Originally posted by Yan
I am sorry me again,
What is the limit of rpm when I step on the gas from zero mph? because when I step on the gas little bit over 2500rmp, I hear some strange noise from the engine. Is it normal?
its a sports car.. so even stock it will get loud.. you shouldnt hear clicking / thumping or anything like that (unless your wheels are hopping and VDC is kicking in)...

around 1000 RPM and below.. thats your idle RPM...

between 1000-2000 rpm.. low noise... not much force...

2000-3000 rpm.. car starts to show some power...

3000-4000 rpm... car pulls and you start to feel acceleration...

4000-6750 rpm... hold on to your hats and glasses folks, cuz this here is the wildest ride in the wilderness!

you have an auto matic.. dont be afraid of pushing the RPM's too fast... it will shift into the next gear when they get to high automatically
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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Yan, Nissan suggests keeping rpms below 4000 during breakin. I believe Nissan also recommends a breakin period of 1200 miles. Some may disagree with those recommendations but I prefer to play it safe. If your english is good enough to understand the owners manual you should read through it.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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Thank you for all of your opinions. I feel better now.

The salesperson told me that I should never abuse the engine during the break-in period. From some previous posts, you guys suggested me to step on the gas to the floor. will it hurt the engine?
The funny thing is that after I bought my z directly from the manager, next day he quited his job.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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my cars break in period was drivin as hard as i could...

they say that you should break in the car how you plan on driving it...
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Originally posted by mooch
Yan, Nissan suggests keeping rpms below 4000 during breakin. I believe Nissan also recommends a breakin period of 1200 miles. Some may disagree with those recommendations but I prefer to play it safe. If your english is good enough to understand the owners manual you should read through it.
Yan, one thing hasn't been explained to you. The Z's throttle is not a mechanical linkage, its an electronic throttle and doesn't just jump off a full stop unless you floor it. Many other cars have a quick response with barely any throttle at all. If you push only 20% of the Z's throttle it will give you 20% acceleration. It feels odd and slow at first, but when you floor it, watch out! I have a 5AT, too. It just takes a while to get used to and it will seem normal quickly.

Speaking of quickly, your car's breakin period is no revving over 4000rpm until 1200 miles. This is a guideline to avoid putting too much strain on new drivelines and gives them a chance to wearin properly. I started revving over 4000 at about 600 miles and gradually went higher as the car brokein.

The MOST IMPORTANT thing to do during breakin is to vary your speed ALL the time, never spend much time at the same speed, go faster or slower, it will do fine with either.

Good luck and enjoy your car. Boomer
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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Hey, c'mon folks, give the guy a break. We should assume this is not a joke. Seriously, if this is a serious post (and I believe it is) then here we have a guy with a problem with his expensive new car and he's honestly worried about it. He's turning to us on this forum for help! Then he gets these people here calling him a troll *and* saying how bad his English is. Geez, that's harsh!

'Richard 350z', I know you are a member over on 350zmotoring; a site which promotes friendliness and acts as a sort of safe-haven from this site, right? Let's try and extend that same friendliness to the other forums, okay? No need to keep calling this guy a fake. Can't we just all get along?
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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I don't know if this is a troll or not, but my feeling is he is not. My parents were immigrants to this country too and I'll tell you some of the crap the people pulled on them when I was little... Granted, there are many kind people, but there is much scum too.

Yan, I'd suggest you drive your Z to another dealer. Have their mechanic check over your car completely and write up anything that is broken and how much it will cost to fix. If you don't feel comfortable with that dealer, then drive to another, and another.

Your car is brand new, there should be nothing wrong with it. If the car seems slow and the engine sounds funny, you could have major problems down the road.

Also keep in mind that Nissan North America will be sending you a customer survey that the dealer will take very seriously. Fill it out as accurately as you can and attach a typed out letter of your experiences with that dealer. Specifically mention the names of all the sales people and mechanics that you dealt with and whether they were helpful or not.

I hope this helps. Let us know what happens
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by jreiter


'Richard 350z', I know you are a member over on 350zmotoring; a site which promotes friendliness and acts as a sort of safe-haven from this site, right? Let's try and extend that same friendliness to the other forums, okay? No need to keep calling this guy a fake. Can't we just all get along?
Don't bother. Richard think's he's funny.

Yan, if you feel the car isnt 100% up to par, take it back to your dealer. If they give you trouble, call Nissan North America. Open up a case number and see what they can do. If nothing can be done, go back to your dealer and tell him you're going to go to the newspapers. YOU'RE the one who paid $30k for this car. The ***** in your court. All else fails get a lawyer.

Good luck.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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Sounds like someone took a spin for 50 miles and screwed up the car a little bit. All the problem u said shouldnt have happen to a new car at all.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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Don't scare the sh*t of him........he's probably not used to hearing the engine tune and overeacted a bit.
Yan, send your car to a different dealer for check up.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Damn, reading this reminds me of why I RARELY post anything here anymore!

First off, Yan, WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!

After owning my Z for 8 months, I BELIEVE you about the interior parts breaking. Let's see, my cloth seats starting coming apart around 3000 miles (just replaced), window grease marks, squeeking windows at 5500 miles, plastic trim around driver window/lock controls popped loose just the other day! IMO, the Z has a good looking albeit poorly fitting interior. My old Prelude's interior quality was much more solid. Yan, you are not the only person having these problems.

Tell the dealer to fix this stuff or call Nissan North America, and they will see that it gets fixed. I have been lucky, since my service department here is unbelievably prompt and they go WAY out of their way to make sure my Z is fixed.

Before everyone starts calling me a troll or Z hater, I LOVE MY Z!!!! Eventually, after all of my interior has been replaced under warranty, I know the car will be perfect.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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Here's my take if anybody cares;
The Z is a purebred.
Purebreds have genetic defects by nature.
In the Z's case, 2 major factors contribute.
1) It's a GRRRRRRRRREAT sportscar at a GRRRRRRRRREAT pricepoint, something has to give.
2) It's an unconventional car. It doesn't conform to the tried and true cookie cutter boxes with wheels that every other mass produced ride falls into so once again....somthings have to give.
After all things considered, after excepting my streaking windows, gas cap door, and a couple of other relitively small irritants,
I LOVE MY CAR.
but then i've never had tires feather, my clutch replaced, or my nav door, mirror, etc. break off in my hands.
I'm at 13K miles, i've got along road to go, we'll see.
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