zerocool and adamcya...best comments I've ever seen. you couldn't be more correct.
Just like others have said,it doesn't matter what car your in. Reckless driving is reckless driving,crashing at 100 mph is still crashing at 100mph. Either way it isn't going to end well.

And to everybody saying things about the parents: 350s can be had for under 10k now. Kids don't need their parents to buy it for them like they did five years ago.

He needed a driving school not a funeral.

 

Exactly, I don't know why people always say "did daddy buy that for you?" when a 16 or 17 year old drives a z. A high school kid working 20 hours a week could save up around 12k in one year, not that hard to buy an 03 with high miles.

 

exactly. Not to mention this
https://my350z.com/forum/cars-for-sa...40sx-rb25.html

forget the Zs, Any kid with a job could find could afford a $14000 car,especially one with over 500whp.

 

Wow, nice job throwing random numbers up there in an attempt to prove a point. Ok, you sat 20hrs a week. 52 week. $12,000. That 16 or 17 year old would have to be making 11.53 an hour and save every penny they made. Most jobs that a 16 or 17 year old can get part time doesn't pay that much and no one saves every penny they make. That assertion was ridiculous

I agree with you, though. An 03 with high mileage can be obtained with living at home and a co signature. There are quite a few on here that are paying for thei own car under these circumstances. There a some that work for their parent, who overpay the hell out them which isn't much different then just handing them a check.

 

I wish that kid with a job luck on getting a loan on a 15 year old car without their parent's signature. We're talking 16 or 17, so many of them hadn't even been at their job for a years. Most places will not do an auto loan on a car more than 7 years old, so thei interest rate would be through the roof. In that case the car is not collateral, so what happen if they do wreck it?

 

^ Not to mention gas, oil changes, maintance, etc.


... which is where the "where do I find the cheapest gas?" and "how necessary is Premium grade?" threads come from.

Let's be real here. It's possible a teenager could HELP afford his/her Z, but all things considered, a kid isn't purchasing and properly maintaining their vehicle without mom and/or dad chipping in somehow. That's where the inappropriateness comes into play. Parents should not be assisting their children in purchasing sports cars. There's just no good that can come from it, other than their kid being more popular...

 

I wasn't just throwing out numbers bro, high school and college kids work 20+ hours a week. When I was 17 and a freshmen in college, I got a job that paid 12 dollars plus bonuses. I would make around 1500 a month, not that hard to buy a 12k-15k car. And I was using that example to show that a kid COULD come up with that money by working those hours. I wasn't factoring in gas, maintenance, and other expenses. Besides, to be realistic, most parents give their children allowance and gas money anyways, so obviously I wasn't being technical.

 

Irresponsible kid with a 300hp coupe... FTL...

RIP though. Rest in pieces...

No seriously, RIP.

I'll make it very sure to make my baby boy understand the importance of being a responsible driver when he becomes a teen.

 

in n out starts at $10 an hour. Anybody with a health card and the ability to read can work there.

I'm a teenager.I work part time as a busser at a restaurant. On a bad horribly slow week I'll make $250,on a good busy week I make around $400-500. Again,it's not hard to obtain a fast car. I could easily save my money and find a high hp car to buy but I prefer saving for a house.

and yes I live at home and will for at least another year but why the hell not.I start college in a few months and it really wouldn't be a smart move for me to leave and there are other reasons why I stay but that's not for the world to know.

Almost forgot to mention my friend who is 18 and is a lifeguard (even though he wears dress pants and a button down shirt to work) and gets $14.50 an hour and literally does nothing.

Anyways,the point is there are jobs teenagers can get that pay a lot more than minimum wage.

 

Please tell me that you do not believe that it was the 20hrs a week that I was questioning? Your claim was pretty straight foward in saying that a kid could save 12k in a year. You first make it sound as if it makes no sense for someone to think that daddy bought their kid a Z, then you throw a bogus number out there. Then I called you out on your numbers and you resort to bring up an allowance from daddy.

I would say that your numbers are exaggerated. I was living at home at your age to, nothing wrong with that. It just erks me when kids come on here taking all of the credit for obtaining their sports car and in the vast majority of the cases it is not all theirs to take. They would have no shot at doing it without their parent's help.

 

A person is dead... for being young and driving foolishly. 99% of the people on this site(and prob every one of the dicks above me leaving stupid *** comments) have done something stupid in an automobile. How bout you thank God that you never ended up like this and keep your mouths shut. Try to remember for a minute that your commenting on "REAL" life events, not the awesome internet world where you can be a tool with no remorse. I'm sure you'd all be cool enough to tell this kids mother "He deserved it" while she's crying her heart out....

 

Accidents are far more common with a teen behind the wheel.

 

Ohh please enlighten all of us on the "real world"



I've seen this happen before, young kid, nice car, dead before you can blink.

You know who is always to blame? Besides the kid of course, the parents.

It is a shame, someone is dead, sure it sucks - but I am not going to lose any sleep over this.

People are saying that the car doesn't matter, the hell it does, don't kid yourself. If that 17yr old kid was driving a toyota echo, I highly doubt he would have been able to kill himself in this fashion (not to say he wouldn't but the chances of him doing something, as he did, to get himself dead would be way lower). The car does matter, plain and simple. Inexperienced drivers should not have a ton of horsepower, in a sports inspired vehicle, the two do not mix.

There are tons of accidents just like this one that we never hear about it, well most you, I see them daily. The other day I watch medic's pull a 19yr old kid out of an EVO, in pieces, his first car too.

Before anyone wants to go all limp on me, remember, this is not being negative, its being realistic - you want your kid to live? don't buy them a fast car, and for gods shake teach the poor kid how to drive before you set them out into the world - its a different type of learning environment than any of us had while we were growing up (unless your 17 or the like, in which case, don't get too confident.)

 

90% of Z owners here have an unearned sense of pride because they think our Z's give them privileges. It's sickening, but it also makes you realize how sad people become when they think of themselves too much. Everyone in here is lying through their teeth if they blame this kid for speeding and pretend like they've never done it

If you blame the car, you are only following the crowd. I've seen 4-door economy sedans fly through a neighborhood way over the speed limit, just like i've probably seen one of yall do an insane flyby on me because we have the same car. Don't be naive.

 

so that's why my parents let me get an 05 sentra spec-v but not a 350z...

on a more serious note, regardless of how it happened... a 17 year old lost his life in this event. whose to blame shouldn't be the highest priority when 2 parents are out there mourning over the loss of their son, along with siblings, relatives and friends... my condolences to all of them.

although i do agree with natural selection, and that one didn't make the cut.

 

I was 17, once, and I did not have a Z, and I did not ever speed while being 17 in a Z - I am sure others here fall into that category. This dead 17yr old's experiences are very specific to him, since the vast majority of people on here could not ever have the same experience.

Now did some of us speed when we were in our teens? Define speeding please. I do remember going slightly over the legal limit from time to time, but never wrapping myself around a tree in a sports car...

 

The point is that this is still a person. Not just an article that people are reading on the internet. Yes it was his fault. Yes it was foolish.... but he is DEAD. Thats not something for people to joke about IMO.

This argument everyone is riding about how teenagers don't drive safely, dont respect the car,etc...DUH. They are teenagers. They also dont respect drugs or alcohol, have unprotected sex, and think they can beat up king kong. They feel invincible. They have yet to see serious consequences to serious actions. Unfortunately this kid will never get the chance to.

 

If you're truly questioning the money aspect of it, I'm 19 and have had the same job at a restaurant for 3 years now. I started at 8 an hour, and still make 8 an hour, but the tips are what bring it up. Averaging out my past years, I came up with over 17 dollars an hour, and I work around 20 or so hours a week. After taxes, fuel, food, insurance, I'm left with enough money at the end of the year to by someone's 9k dollar project car pushing 400hp or someone's 04 Z with 100k miles on it. Granted I don't have a mortgage, but I don't have a car payment either because I put all the money upfront and saved every penny to get my car. I don't know how many of "me" there is out there, but I certainly did not take a grant from daddy nor did I want to. I know where every single cent came from that my car was purchased with, and every time I turn the key I'm a much happier "kid" because of it. Not just that, I'm safer as well. When you work for something so hard it becomes a part of you, and I don't want to risk that. So I don't... Plus bondurant helps out a bit too

 

They're really not exaggerated at all though.
It's exactly how the guy above me said it. I get $7.30 an hour. But where I work,it usually costs minimum of $100 per person to eat there.
some of the waiters that I work with that are always there make 6 figures a year. It's a very expensive restaurant that's one street away from the las vegas strip.

It's not like I'm at applebees. Whatever my check is for the week,my tips are easily double that amount.