Do you think an AUTOMATIC 350z is worth modding?
02-14-2012, 07:07 AM
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You guys are smoking crack. A factory TQ converter auto will NOT shift faster than a good clean power shift. It will out shift 95% of MT drivers, but when heard shifting from outside the car it is lazy and slow. Same goes for SMG transmissions. Anyone with racing experience knows this.
Look at drag times the stock vs stock times tell the tale in most applications. You guys think your POS TQ converter manual shift autos are twin clutch GTR transmissions they are NOT.
In the 370Z with its closed ratio first 4 gears the auto is quick. And because we haven't seen a driver in one it's still IIRC faster stock for stock than a MT. That's a Shame for those guys.
The auto 350Zs die when they hit 4th gear. Of course most of you can't comprehend this all because you have likely never seen a true driver in a MT. Everyone thinks they can drive until they see someone who can....
Look at drag times the stock vs stock times tell the tale in most applications. You guys think your POS TQ converter manual shift autos are twin clutch GTR transmissions they are NOT.
In the 370Z with its closed ratio first 4 gears the auto is quick. And because we haven't seen a driver in one it's still IIRC faster stock for stock than a MT. That's a Shame for those guys.
The auto 350Zs die when they hit 4th gear. Of course most of you can't comprehend this all because you have likely never seen a true driver in a MT. Everyone thinks they can drive until they see someone who can....
02-14-2012, 07:25 AM
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Do you even know what hater means?
It means I hate on someone because they have something I want that I cannot have.
Why the fawk do you think I cannot afford an auto sports car and why would you imply that I want one?
Id rather blow up a MT every season of RACING than flick a stick forward or pull a paddle and act like I can drive.
You guys have no idea the timing and practice that goes into a clean powershift.
Every time one of you jokers says "my auto shifts faster" I know you dont know any better, every time you bring up a "paddle shifters are better than manuals" you prove you dont know any better, everytime some jerkoff comes in here trying to defend autos by explaining a valvebody modification he doesnt even know the name of, you guys prove you dont know $hit. Every time somebody who is auto + FI says "I can stay in boost during shifts, MT's cannot" they dont kow $hit. If that were the case every built auto would run much faster than MT, yet the only autos that are on the Top 10 drag list ARE NOT FACTORY TRANSMISSIONS, they are racing transmissions, which is what you fools seem to think you have.
Go out and race your autos, against a good driver and see where your mods get you. I speak from experience, I dont spew BS for the fawk of it in a discussion. The only thing a 350Z auto tranny is better at than a human/MT combo is that it will never miss a shift. It cant launch harder, it cant shift faster.
Ignorance is bliss.
It means I hate on someone because they have something I want that I cannot have.
Why the fawk do you think I cannot afford an auto sports car and why would you imply that I want one?
Id rather blow up a MT every season of RACING than flick a stick forward or pull a paddle and act like I can drive.
You guys have no idea the timing and practice that goes into a clean powershift.
Every time one of you jokers says "my auto shifts faster" I know you dont know any better, every time you bring up a "paddle shifters are better than manuals" you prove you dont know any better, everytime some jerkoff comes in here trying to defend autos by explaining a valvebody modification he doesnt even know the name of, you guys prove you dont know $hit. Every time somebody who is auto + FI says "I can stay in boost during shifts, MT's cannot" they dont kow $hit. If that were the case every built auto would run much faster than MT, yet the only autos that are on the Top 10 drag list ARE NOT FACTORY TRANSMISSIONS, they are racing transmissions, which is what you fools seem to think you have.
Go out and race your autos, against a good driver and see where your mods get you. I speak from experience, I dont spew BS for the fawk of it in a discussion. The only thing a 350Z auto tranny is better at than a human/MT combo is that it will never miss a shift. It cant launch harder, it cant shift faster.
Ignorance is bliss.
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02-14-2012, 07:35 AM
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Question - what was your point coming in this thread talking endless s*** at drivers and their ability of driving to your standards...? I mean really? Lmao word of advice: read the title of the thread before busting ur ***** out trying to get attention and call out for swordfights
02-14-2012, 07:40 AM
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Do you have anything good to contribute to the discussion with your experience or facts or do you just defend autos for no reason? Why dont you start by answering why you dont know the definition of a hater?
Autos are great for 70% of people. Most dont want MT's in every day driving, or traffic. Thats why most Vettes are auto, thats why cars like the IS-F arent offered in a MT, there isnt enough demand. The retard before who said something like "if autos are gay why does the IS-F come only in auto?"
Dee dee think about the people who buy that car, its not necessarily because an auto is better. Auto owners are mindless, usually uneducated fawks. Enjoy modding your Z's so you actually lose low end TQ and are slower than stock.
Autos are great for 70% of people. Most dont want MT's in every day driving, or traffic. Thats why most Vettes are auto, thats why cars like the IS-F arent offered in a MT, there isnt enough demand. The retard before who said something like "if autos are gay why does the IS-F come only in auto?"
Dee dee think about the people who buy that car, its not necessarily because an auto is better. Auto owners are mindless, usually uneducated fawks. Enjoy modding your Z's so you actually lose low end TQ and are slower than stock.
02-14-2012, 07:59 AM
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Forget whats faster, autos just dont react or feel like a sports car. bottom line.
i drove a 500hp z06 auto and would rather drive a manual stock Z anyday. Its no fun mashing a gas pedal and holding on.
i have auto in my daily driver sedan now and its killing me its so boring and im not even trying to drive it fast.
IMO, a sports car that is auto is like a butterfaced girl
Forget whats faster, autos just dont react or feel like a sports car. bottom line.
i drove a 500hp z06 auto and would rather drive a manual stock Z anyday. Its no fun mashing a gas pedal and holding on.
i have auto in my daily driver sedan now and its killing me its so boring and im not even trying to drive it fast.
IMO, a sports car that is auto is like a butterfaced girl
02-14-2012, 08:07 AM
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No answer to what is best. What is best comes down to the individual and their use of the car.
What irks me is when auto Z guys, with $hit tranny's, act like their factory transmissions are better for motorsport or racing than a good driver in a MT and that's just ignorance. Even econo cars have dual clutch autos now a days and these fools with their slow a$$ shifts and some dont even rev match downshifting talking about how awesome they are lol.
The 370Z guys are the worst because they havent had a driver to prove with a time that a 6MT 370Z is faster than an auto. Those guys all drink the kool-aid on those forums.
What irks me is when auto Z guys, with $hit tranny's, act like their factory transmissions are better for motorsport or racing than a good driver in a MT and that's just ignorance. Even econo cars have dual clutch autos now a days and these fools with their slow a$$ shifts and some dont even rev match downshifting talking about how awesome they are lol.
The 370Z guys are the worst because they havent had a driver to prove with a time that a 6MT 370Z is faster than an auto. Those guys all drink the kool-aid on those forums.
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02-14-2012, 08:12 AM
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Nice edit of your last post btw. W.e dude I'm
Not here to start s*** with ppl on high horses like
You thinking the world should bow down at them and their "abilities". Maybe if you weren't such a dick for no reason, we could actually talk about valuable knowledge and experience in modding vs playing pride war. And FYI I got a shift boot to compliment all changes to the interior trim and not have the oem shift **** stand out like Blk ink on white paper. I got bride seats not because I autocross my car every chance I get but because it's another interior mod that goes well with my theme. It makes ppl come Together and talk about cars and mods and not to start pointless fights with ppl who think they are better than everyone else
Not here to start s*** with ppl on high horses like
You thinking the world should bow down at them and their "abilities". Maybe if you weren't such a dick for no reason, we could actually talk about valuable knowledge and experience in modding vs playing pride war. And FYI I got a shift boot to compliment all changes to the interior trim and not have the oem shift **** stand out like Blk ink on white paper. I got bride seats not because I autocross my car every chance I get but because it's another interior mod that goes well with my theme. It makes ppl come Together and talk about cars and mods and not to start pointless fights with ppl who think they are better than everyone else
02-14-2012, 08:17 AM
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No answer to what is best. What is best comes down to the individual and their use of the car.
What irks me is when auto Z guys, with $hit tranny's, act like their factory transmissions are better for motorsport or racing than a good driver in a MT and that's just ignorance. Even econo cars have dual clutch autos now a days and these fools with their slow a$$ shifts and some dont even rev match downshifting talking about how awesome they are lol.
The 370Z guys are the worst because they havent had a driver to prove with a time that a 6MT 370Z is faster than an auto. Those guys all drink the kool-aid on those forums.
What irks me is when auto Z guys, with $hit tranny's, act like their factory transmissions are better for motorsport or racing than a good driver in a MT and that's just ignorance. Even econo cars have dual clutch autos now a days and these fools with their slow a$$ shifts and some dont even rev match downshifting talking about how awesome they are lol.
The 370Z guys are the worst because they havent had a driver to prove with a time that a 6MT 370Z is faster than an auto. Those guys all drink the kool-aid on those forums.
02-14-2012, 08:46 AM
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Albert- thanks for asking! I'm currently pushing 400rwhp on 100oct clocking at 12.29 @ 114mph. Still on a stock block. Hopefully will
Break into 11's after reinforcing the tranny and figurin out a way to launch better. Wish me luck. What's ur car pushing/running and what have you done to
It so far?
Break into 11's after reinforcing the tranny and figurin out a way to launch better. Wish me luck. What's ur car pushing/running and what have you done to
It so far?
02-14-2012, 08:48 AM
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Albert- thanks for asking! I'm currently pushing 400rwhp on 100oct clocking at 12.29 @ 114mph. Still on a stock block. Hopefully will
Break into 11's after reinforcing the tranny and figurin out a way to launch better. Wish me luck. What's ur car pushing/running and what have you done to
It so far?
Break into 11's after reinforcing the tranny and figurin out a way to launch better. Wish me luck. What's ur car pushing/running and what have you done to
It so far?
Unless of course, you dont have it.....?
02-14-2012, 09:00 AM
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I dont believe a guy who trips over the staging light and is an immature liar.
Anyone can come up with times.
FAST RUN HERE, VERY IMPRESSIVE.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ABE...9&feature=plcp
BTW-to prove the point on the MT vs AT, My car with 386whp ran 11.9 @ 114-116mph, numerous times, with a 60ft SLOWER than you. What does that tell you??
I own you on shift time, even with less power.
Proceed to chew on a **** kind sir...
Anyone can come up with times.
FAST RUN HERE, VERY IMPRESSIVE.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ABE...9&feature=plcp
BTW-to prove the point on the MT vs AT, My car with 386whp ran 11.9 @ 114-116mph, numerous times, with a 60ft SLOWER than you. What does that tell you??
I own you on shift time, even with less power.
Proceed to chew on a **** kind sir...
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02-14-2012, 09:09 AM
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I dont believe a guy who trips over the staging light and is an immature liar.
Anyone can come up with times.
FAST RUN HERE, VERY IMPRESSIVE.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ABE...9&feature=plcp
BTW-to prove the point on the MT vs AT, My car with 386whp ran 11.9 @ 114-116mph, numerous times, with a 60ft SLOWER than you. What does that tell you??
I own you on shift time, even with less power.
Proceed to chew on a **** kind sir...
Anyone can come up with times.
FAST RUN HERE, VERY IMPRESSIVE.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ABE...9&feature=plcp
BTW-to prove the point on the MT vs AT, My car with 386whp ran 11.9 @ 114-116mph, numerous times, with a 60ft SLOWER than you. What does that tell you??
I own you on shift time, even with less power.
Proceed to chew on a **** kind sir...
Ride shotgun in a car running low 12's? How is UR 60' slower than mine?! Either you don't know How toHandle your car or I miss read something about you being master of the manual tranny...my 1.9 is slow...should
Be 1.6-1.7