Does it take skill to drive an automatic? No.
Does it take skill to effectively race with an (350Z) automatic? Yes.

 

Dude I drive an automatic car now a days and seriously when I race it feels pretty retarded. I smash the pedal and just make sure that the car stays in control and doesn't crash. It's not the same as how it used to be with my manual Z. That's all I'm saying.... people are getting all emo on here because I was the first to speak the truth. If I was driving a manual and bashing on automatics that would make me an *** hole. Keep in my MIND WHEN I had a manual I restrained from such comments. Now that I am driving an automatic I feel like I have the right to comment on it. That does not make me egotistic or arrogant it just means that I appreciate the manual a lot more than an automatic car.

 

Franky, bro this thread is teh fail!

Driving an AT just takes less skill. Don't think for one second you'll make faster times around a track cause your in a AT.

It still takes skill!

 

this is the only logical thing you have posted so far... and it relates perfectly how people see your view on AT's in this thread.............

why don't you take a step back and actually absorb what people are saying....gregom summed up what the majority of people in this thread have been stating... and just to reiterate:

daily drive an auto = no skill

Race an auto (especially around corners) = skill...


or better yet now that you drive an AT take it out to Summit point and show "Mr Miyagi" and his student whats up because it requires no skill right???

 

Drag racing doesnt take skill.

*runs away*

 

Okay when I posted the whole AT vs Manual it was assuming both cars being equivalent. And since I was posting in my350z one would assume that okay he's talking about an automatic vs manual 350z. I stand by what I said racing in an automatic 350z requires no where close to the same skills as a manual 350z. Now you could sit here and tell me about how much skills it takes to drive a 1000 WHP automatic car around corners but guess what bro it will always be less than a 1000 WHP manual car. That's my honest opinion having driven both manual and automatics.

 

Standard = more fun to drive IMO


I will say that as auto sports is for someones trophy wife (unless you handycapped, then its OK)

 

Cool story bro!

 

You have driven both an AT & MT 1000whp cars around corners?

 

I know you haven't. I have driven a manual and automatic HR Z. And yes racing in the manual requires skills racing in an auto HR Z does not.

 

Never claimed I did. I am asking you if you have ever driven both an AT & MT (putting 1000 to the wheels) around corners?

 

Drag racing the Z auto takes a slight amount of skill. Getting a good launch and having the timing down for the upshifts does require a small amount of skill. But i'll agree it is no where near the skill needed for drag racing in a manual.

Now track racing, with corners and such is another matter. It does take some skill and general familiarity with the auto Z to know when and how to get the trans to downshfit when needed. I'm not sure if many are aware but the auto in the Z, at least the 03-05 Z's is not very good at downshifting. Learning it's behaviors I have little tricks to get it to downshift quicker. Additionally, manually blipping the throttle during a downshift helps because the auto doesn't do it aggressively enough during racing. It doesn't get a good rev match by it own, causing the car to jerk during a downshift and if your already near the limit of grip it could cause you to lose control. So all these (albeit) small little foibles involved with the Z's 5AT do require a little skill to effectively race on a (not drag) track.

But I'll still admit a manual does require a lot more skill, but honestly most guys at the track driving a manual don't have much skill either. There is a small number of us driving enthusiasts out there who understand and know how to get smooth, well executed rev-matched downshifts in a manual. A small number of us who know how to get a good launch off the line in a manual... Manual does require skill to drive around town, and a lot of skill to race effectively on the track.

I'll leave you guys who think your the kings of manuals with this thought... the perfect rev-match downshift in a manual is when you can do it with no jerk or judder... where it is perfectly smooth and you can't really feel the downshift has occurred. That requires skill. And i'm talking a big difference in RPM's... not a small 300-1000 RPM's difference, i'm talking 3000-5000 RPM's difference, for example coming to a corner in 5th gear at 2000 RPM on full brakes with ABS activated, and rev-matching down to 2nd gear at about 6000 RPM, so smoothly that you don't jerk the car.

 

lol wow now you are just confusing several things....

Ok lets take your example of an AT Z vs. an MT around a road course.... guess what matters the most........ the Driver! not the fcking transmission.... what part about this are you not understanding..... not a single person in the thread has agreed with you.... you just continue to make yourself look like a fool.... honestly how thick can you be??

once again now that you have an AT car why don't you head to Summit point and show everyone how easy it is... now that your transmission shifts for you?? should be no problem by your logic right... because the only thing that matters when going around turns is the transmission right??? not any of the other stuff mentioned


you are far from a car enthusiast.

 

Dude let's get back to the point like I said I have driven a Z that was both manual and automatic. Now that constitutes all dimensions of driving straight line and turns. So try to stick to the point. Now let me guess you're going to start talking about 10,000 WHP cars racing vertically against the laws of gravity. However before you do that take a deep breath and just stop please.

 

Then you admit you have never driven any type of car with 1000whp...

I believe the point I (and others in this thread) are trying to make is that you made a troll thread for no other purpose than to denigrate drivers of vehicles with automatic transmissions. But hey, if that's how you get your kicks...

 

.....and I'm in.

 

I don't know if you've ever seen my races I have some videos up. I have street raced a long time and been to the drag strip that's obviously where we met. In all my races that I have experienced it was more about shifting faster, clutch control etc..... and less about racing in "courses". Now I'm not here to judge people that go to road courses but the dimension of racing that I am involved in drag strips and street racing don't really require the factors that you are talking about. I mean I think it's great that you guys make turns in parking lots and road courses it's just not my thing.

 

I have bo staff skills

 

We are talking about manual vs automatic 350z in a street race or drag strip. I want you to tell me now which requires more skill and which requires minimal skill? Please don't go on tangents about 100,000 WHP cars, anti gravitational racing, racing on the moon or road course racing.

MANUAL VS AUTOMATIC 350z in a Street race/ Drag strip race there I repeated it again for you guys. I'm telling you that a manual Z requires a lot of skills and the automatic Z is pretty much smashing the pedal. Yeah you have to control the car but that's basic stuff. Even my mum knows how to not crash her minivan while driving.

 

and this is my point... until you have experienced all types of racing, you cannot make the judgment that driving AT is a joke. I guarantee that if you took your AT car to a road course or anything with turns you would get a big wake up call and realize there is a lot more to racing than how fast you can shift a car. Just take that as a given and move on.

I am obviously into drag racing as well, but pushing a car hard through corners is significantly harder than shifting fast in a straight line..... now that being said it obviously hard to control a truly fast car in the 1/4 (many of which are auto)...

but for cars like ours... pushing hard through corners requires a lot of skill regardless of what transmission you have.

you started this thread with a blanket statement that driving an auto car is a joke period. and you got owned, now you are trying to modify your statement strictly to drag racing, and that show just how weak your argument truly is.