Bad luck for this Z driver
it can be a combination of stupid at 20 AND not much experience at 20 - particularly since many 16 year olds start out with a FWD lower HP car. Age is NOT just a number when the number is 20. No insult intended, simply actuarial fact. And believe me, by the time one turns 50, his opinion as to whether 100 is fast or not has drastically changed from a 19 year old perspective. 100 while passing other cars on a public road IS fast. Save it for the track. Or at least a road with no curves and no trees.........
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid..
Definition of ignorance - Lack of knowledge or information
Guess what comes with age? Experience. Guess what comes with experience? Knowledge and information. Saying age doesn't play a factor in gaining knowledge or information is extremely... Well, ignorant. Which would make sense, wouldn't it? Seeing as how you're extremely inexperienced yourself.
100mph isn't even high speeds? Proof of my previous statement right there. The amount of times I said to myself going through college "my god, I don't know ****" is incredible. And I still do it every day. I hate to say it kid, but you don't know ****. Neither do I. But at least I recognize it.
Guess what comes with age? Experience. Guess what comes with experience? Knowledge and information. Saying age doesn't play a factor in gaining knowledge or information is extremely... Well, ignorant. Which would make sense, wouldn't it? Seeing as how you're extremely inexperienced yourself.
100mph isn't even high speeds? Proof of my previous statement right there. The amount of times I said to myself going through college "my god, I don't know ****" is incredible. And I still do it every day. I hate to say it kid, but you don't know ****. Neither do I. But at least I recognize it.
And most people don't learn from experience. You really think this kid is going to get a slower car and slow down? No he's going to get the same or a better car, be scared for a week or two and go back to speeding again. How do I know this? Experience. People don't change, you're stupid at a young age, you'll be stupid at an older age.
Bro, Be glad your not a jackass like him. Zs are dangerous cars for any driver, and with the more time driving, you gain more experience. Seeing as how your nineteen if you got your license at 16, you have only had two and a half true years of driving. As you get older you drive more, meaning you gain more experience as you age, you will soon understand this with age. and 100mph on a public road is dangerous, Ive been pulled out a car at gunpoint because my friend wanted to scare me and do 122mph in his STi, even though i said save it for the track on saturday, people just dont get that if you hit a pothole at that speed, your car can disentegrate.
QFT ^
I dont know how many times a day i learn something new, and im 23 with a masters in business. I still get stumped or dumbfounded by the older people in my office everyday.
QFT ^
I dont know how many times a day i learn something new, and im 23 with a masters in business. I still get stumped or dumbfounded by the older people in my office everyday.
A degree or someone's age does not mean they know how to make smart decisions. I just graduated college and you should of seen some of the people in my classes bro. They literally just hand out degrees to anyone who is willing to take on debt (which is probably one of the factors why our economy is going to **** and will never recover but that's another story). Bottom line is you can't buy experience/critical thinking skills/etc.
You sure cant but you can learn them, and i know exactly what your talking about when it comes to those kids who just sit there and waste air and space, but i paid for my education so i took it seriously, but that wasnt the point i was making, What i was saying was that even though i am very educated, my age still shows when i am around older people because the life experiences they have had i cant relate to yet, because it hasnt happened to me yet. Its the same thing with driving, your 19 year old self wont drive as good as your 40 year old self, because you havent experienced that much driving.
It is, I'm stealing that haha
My insurance is $200 a month for basic liability... I don't even need to know what you're insurance payment is because it isn't that bad. Lol
Rate is higher for something completely irrelevant to my speed, never been pulled over for speeding
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give up...
kid your fighting an uphill battle and your loosing. ive had my z since i was 18 and im 21 now. you cant predict behavior bottom line. you're alot less likely to make reckless choices the older you get. its been proven several times over. yes there are exceptions to every rule. and you can say that when your 50. not 19. i consider myself very responsible. do i drive like an ***? yes sometimes, so im not an exception. ill admit it. give up arguing with guys who have been there and done it. just learn waht you can from them. and go with it.
kid your fighting an uphill battle and your loosing. ive had my z since i was 18 and im 21 now. you cant predict behavior bottom line. you're alot less likely to make reckless choices the older you get. its been proven several times over. yes there are exceptions to every rule. and you can say that when your 50. not 19. i consider myself very responsible. do i drive like an ***? yes sometimes, so im not an exception. ill admit it. give up arguing with guys who have been there and done it. just learn waht you can from them. and go with it.
THEN you wake up one morning and realize how little you know. How much others know. And how much easier life is if you shut up, listen and learn from someone who knows what they're talking about. You then go about realizing how stupid, immature and uneducated you were when you though you were on top.
You, Bruno, have yet to travel over that crest. You're cocky and it shows. Slow down and don't end up like the guy from the accident. I bet he said the same thing about doing 90-100mph all the way up to the moment he hit the tree.
I agree with most of this, except the 100 is too fast passing cars... Maybe I'm just used to it because I drive minimum 50 miles a day going to work and back going near those speeds. Yeah I know if I get pulled over I'm fu*ked, but I have eyes of a hawk when it comes to cops, my eyes saved my *** a few times this week alone.
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid.
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid.
It'll catch up to you one day or another. I suggest you slow down. You can't predict what the car ahead of you is going to do, keep that in mind.
Just remember, you're not only putting yourself at risk but other motorists/pedestrians as well. Of course that's not being stupid or selfish according to you.
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I agree with most of this, except the 100 is too fast passing cars... Maybe I'm just used to it because I drive minimum 50 miles a day going to work and back going near those speeds. Yeah I know if I get pulled over I'm fu*ked, but I have eyes of a hawk when it comes to cops, my eyes saved my *** a few times this week alone.
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid..
Experience doesn't come from age... Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have. Not saying I know your life, that previous statement might be completely wrong. But based on average statistics, yeah I've experienced more.
And most people don't learn from experience. You really think this kid is going to get a slower car and slow down? No he's going to get the same or a better car, be scared for a week or two and go back to speeding again. How do I know this? Experience. People don't change, you're stupid at a young age, you'll be stupid at an older age.
So take this example, a 45 year old who rarely ever drove his entire life because it wasn't his thing and me a 19 year old and I drive anywhere from 50-100 miles a day. Just because he's older, according to you, he's a more experienced driver. Even tho at the age of 19 I would of drove more then the guy I used in my example? Please rationalize your reasoning for me.
Exactly ^
Yeah if I take my 40 year old self compared to myself now, of course I would be a better driver, because I would've been driving for that much longer. But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first. Age is an irrelevant factor.
It is, I'm stealing that haha
My insurance is $200 a month for basic liability... I don't even need to know what you're insurance payment is because it isn't that bad. Lol
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid..
Experience doesn't come from age... Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have. Not saying I know your life, that previous statement might be completely wrong. But based on average statistics, yeah I've experienced more.
And most people don't learn from experience. You really think this kid is going to get a slower car and slow down? No he's going to get the same or a better car, be scared for a week or two and go back to speeding again. How do I know this? Experience. People don't change, you're stupid at a young age, you'll be stupid at an older age.
So take this example, a 45 year old who rarely ever drove his entire life because it wasn't his thing and me a 19 year old and I drive anywhere from 50-100 miles a day. Just because he's older, according to you, he's a more experienced driver. Even tho at the age of 19 I would of drove more then the guy I used in my example? Please rationalize your reasoning for me.
Exactly ^
Yeah if I take my 40 year old self compared to myself now, of course I would be a better driver, because I would've been driving for that much longer. But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first. Age is an irrelevant factor.
It is, I'm stealing that haha
My insurance is $200 a month for basic liability... I don't even need to know what you're insurance payment is because it isn't that bad. Lol
Getting pulled over is more of a statistical thing. if you drive enough you will get pulled over and you WILL get a ticket. your eyes cant save you i promise. i RARELY speed and i drive 40+ miles to school 3 days a week and I have been given a ticket for 5 over. **** happens. but honestly at 19 insurance on an SI civic with a $1000 deductible wasn't even a $100 (i know 2 totally different cars). Insurance is based off of driving record, amount of times cars have been wrecked. stolen, vandalized, and also age and sex. i'm 24 and my insurance in $125 full coverage.
like i said i drive quite a bit on the highway also, but this has nothing to do with 90 being fast or not... I've seen wrecks kill people at 35 mph... 90 is d@mn fast and will kill you REAL QUICK, i promise.
im not perfect and i have gone 100mph+ but i do realize that it was stupid because it was on a public highway with other cars. no matter how good your eyes are they cant see a blowout coming at 90MPH, and losing control after a blowout is very easy at these speeds. Take the advice from these older guys on here (not me), they might know a thing or two. just because we say your young(which you are) doesnt mean we are saying that you are the dumb one. statistically that age is DUMB and IGNORANT
I think the thing here is we live in completely different areas.... Where I'm from, average freeway driving for EVERYone, not just a few people, is 80 mph. That's what traffic flows at on freeways.. 90mph isn't fast.
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Speed limit is 75 where I live. Personal opinion is not what is considered fast. It is actual speeds that are considered fast. Just because EVERYone drive 5 over the speed limit as a "rule of thumb", it's still illegal. Just because EVERYone drives 80 doesn't mean that it's not fast
Wow, maturity is really showing through. We are way off topic - let's get back on track here.
I'm amazed that he survived. Incredible. 6" toward the back of the car and he'd be scrambled eggs. Puts things into perspective. I hope he cherishes the life he has after such a close call.
I'm amazed that he survived. Incredible. 6" toward the back of the car and he'd be scrambled eggs. Puts things into perspective. I hope he cherishes the life he has after such a close call.
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I don't think it's fast, science proves it kid. Sorry to learn ya something
Think if it in terms of baseball. Is a baseball traveling at 90mph fast? Yes! Now picture w 3000lbs baseball going 90 mph......
My bad for drifting even further off topic but yeah I hope the kid does cherish life. Unfortunately you can't fix stupid
Think if it in terms of baseball. Is a baseball traveling at 90mph fast? Yes! Now picture w 3000lbs baseball going 90 mph......
My bad for drifting even further off topic but yeah I hope the kid does cherish life. Unfortunately you can't fix stupid
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Chirping in with Bruno:
Speed limit on highways in Michigan are 70. You do 70 on some roads and your risking being hit from behind if your not in a semi lane. My avg speed is 80. I go with traffic, pass on the left when I have to. People going by at 90 is normal.
Speed limit on highways in Michigan are 70. You do 70 on some roads and your risking being hit from behind if your not in a semi lane. My avg speed is 80. I go with traffic, pass on the left when I have to. People going by at 90 is normal.
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Also different speed limits are posted in different areas for a reason. 35mph zones are ususally two lanes, lots of auto/pedestrian traffic, close quarters. 75mph when you have six lanes, open shoulders and large merge lanes.
I could argue that the limit makers realize that speed is relative to surrounding. Obstacles at 75 are relative to those at 35.
75-90 is fast, but if you have the space, likelihood of catastrophe is limited..
I could argue that the limit makers realize that speed is relative to surrounding. Obstacles at 75 are relative to those at 35.
75-90 is fast, but if you have the space, likelihood of catastrophe is limited..
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Chirping in with Bruno:
Speed limit on highways in Michigan are 70. You do 70 on some roads and your risking being hit from behind if your not in a semi lane. My avg speed is 80. I go with traffic, pass on the left when I have to. People going by at 90 is normal.
Speed limit on highways in Michigan are 70. You do 70 on some roads and your risking being hit from behind if your not in a semi lane. My avg speed is 80. I go with traffic, pass on the left when I have to. People going by at 90 is normal.
Speed limits are posted to keep traffic flowing at the right pace pertaining to the area, on top of considering what's safe for the surrounding area. If you drive beyond the speed limit, whatever it is and where you're at, then you're in the wrong, hence going too fast. End of story.
Move on kids...
Move on kids...
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Originally Posted by Bruno350z;10034414[B
]I agree with most of this, except the 100 is too fast passing cars... Maybe I'm just used to it because I drive minimum 50 miles a day going to work and back going near those speeds[/B]. Yeah I know if I get pulled over I'm fu*ked, but I have eyes of a hawk when it comes to cops, my eyes saved my *** a few times this week alone.
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid..
Experience doesn't come from age... Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have. Not saying I know your life, that previous statement might be completely wrong. But based on average statistics, yeah I've experienced more.
And most people don't learn from experience. You really think this kid is going to get a slower car and slow down? No he's going to get the same or a better car, be scared for a week or two and go back to speeding again. How do I know this? Experience. People don't change, you're stupid at a young age, you'll be stupid at an older age.
So take this example, a 45 year old who rarely ever drove his entire life because it wasn't his thing and me a 19 year old and I drive anywhere from 50-100 miles a day. Just because he's older, according to you, he's a more experienced driver. Even tho at the age of 19 I would of drove more then the guy I used in my example? Please rationalize your reasoning for me.
Exactly ^
Yeah if I take my 40 year old self compared to myself now, of course I would be a better driver, because I would've been driving for that much longer. But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first. Age is an irrelevant factor.
It is, I'm stealing that haha
My insurance is $200 a month for basic liability... I don't even need to know what you're insurance payment is because it isn't that bad. Lol
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid..
Experience doesn't come from age... Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have. Not saying I know your life, that previous statement might be completely wrong. But based on average statistics, yeah I've experienced more.
And most people don't learn from experience. You really think this kid is going to get a slower car and slow down? No he's going to get the same or a better car, be scared for a week or two and go back to speeding again. How do I know this? Experience. People don't change, you're stupid at a young age, you'll be stupid at an older age.
So take this example, a 45 year old who rarely ever drove his entire life because it wasn't his thing and me a 19 year old and I drive anywhere from 50-100 miles a day. Just because he's older, according to you, he's a more experienced driver. Even tho at the age of 19 I would of drove more then the guy I used in my example? Please rationalize your reasoning for me.
Exactly ^
Yeah if I take my 40 year old self compared to myself now, of course I would be a better driver, because I would've been driving for that much longer. But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first. Age is an irrelevant factor.
It is, I'm stealing that haha
My insurance is $200 a month for basic liability... I don't even need to know what you're insurance payment is because it isn't that bad. Lol
Bro you have a lot to learn, You remind me of myself at 19, im 23 now and you will slow down one day man, but for right now do you, but be careful. and dont try to defend yourself on this forum, your age shows when you comment and your gonna get raped. You contradict yourself when you try to make your points and thats because you make no sense.
Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have
How did you gain these experiences? ^ , pretty sure you had to grow up to experience them.
and
"But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first"
so if you learned that at age 15, you would have learned from that experience and not done the same thing at 25, would you?
and you pay 200 a month for basic liability? wtf? and you think that is ok?
bro I pay 172 for 3 cars full coverage. that insurance payment is NOT ok. I hope you can pay for that Z if anything happens to it other than an accident.
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This is true, He is from southern california, and on our freeways, the average speed is 85, if your not doing that you will either get pulled over or cause an accident.
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