Notices
2003-2009 Nissan 350Z

Drive a Sports Car 'Hard' to keep it Clean - Any Truth?

Old Apr 18, 2013 | 10:50 AM
  #1  
pmarascal's Avatar
pmarascal
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
Default Drive a Sports Car 'Hard' to keep it Clean - Any Truth?

I've heard this statement before, and over the years I've learned to take everybodys BS with a grain of salt... but finally today I've decided I need an answer to this statement.

I've heard people say that you've got to drive a sports car hard to keep the engine and pistons, etc clean from junk. Meaning cruise at higher RPMs, push it higher on shifts.. basically if you drive around under 2K or something constantly that your engine will get more buildup junk than usual.

Now don't flame me, I just want answers one way or another.. is this BS or real?
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 10:55 AM
  #2  
SQuaLZ's Avatar
SQuaLZ
New Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,382
Likes: 116
From: New York
Default

In my opinion, I think the best thing for the car is to do both. Drive the car normal and every once in a while let it loose.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 11:17 AM
  #3  
mg23's Avatar
mg23
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 66
Likes: 1
From: Philly
Default

Agreed, a sports car is meant to be driven not sit in a garage and look pretty
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 11:22 AM
  #4  
Syner's Avatar
Syner
New Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 22,798
Likes: 829
From: Alberta
Default

Personally, I don't believe this has much credibility now.

This idea used to have some credibility, and most likely stems from when carburators were used. - Even then it didn't have much credibility...

Last edited by Syner; Apr 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 11:26 AM
  #5  
pmarascal's Avatar
pmarascal
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
Default

Agreed to all 3 of you.

Drive it normal after a tired day at work... But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, unleash it and put a smile on your face. More often than not too.

And with carburetors it makes sense, just wondering who is an engine nerd that can explain this stuff... so I can then pretend I know as well.. Thanks guys, just a random question I couldn't get out of my head lately
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 11:31 AM
  #6  
Syner's Avatar
Syner
New Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 22,798
Likes: 829
From: Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by pmarascal
Agreed to all 3 of you.

Drive it normal after a tired day at work... But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, unleash it and put a smile on your face. More often than not too.

And with carburetors it makes sense, just wondering who is an engine nerd that can explain this stuff... so I can then pretend I know as well.. Thanks guys, just a random question I couldn't get out of my head lately
Not much of an engine nerd, but mainly from pooling.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 06:10 PM
  #7  
terrasmak's Avatar
terrasmak
Super Moderator
MY350Z.COM
Premier Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 29,121
Likes: 2,400
From: Sin City
Default

Blowing out the carbon once and a while is a good thing.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 06:18 PM
  #8  
Spork's Avatar
Spork
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 27,592
Likes: 6
From: MN
Default

90% not true.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 06:21 PM
  #9  
Emski's Avatar
Emski
New Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 833
Likes: 10
From: Denver, CO
Default

That goes for every car.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 06:43 PM
  #10  
Spike100's Avatar
Spike100
New Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,337
Likes: 204
From: Edina, Minnesota
Default

There is no need to race your engine by running up the RPM’s. In fact your car will last longest if you drive it conservatively. --Spike
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 07:14 PM
  #11  
SQuaLZ's Avatar
SQuaLZ
New Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,382
Likes: 116
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by Spike100
There is no need to race your engine by running up the RPM’s. In fact your car will last longest if you drive it conservatively. --Spike
Can't say for all cars but my uncle that works for BMW said BMWs have the most engine problems with elderly owners, since the engines get sooo much carbon buildup.

I have also seen an RX7 that was babied for over 20k miles, never taken even close the redline, and blew on its 2nd quarter mile run.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 07:36 PM
  #12  
lewisb01's Avatar
lewisb01
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, OH
Default

The only known truth to that is the Rotary engines. They must be driven hard or they will fail.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 09:30 PM
  #13  
DarkCreep's Avatar
DarkCreep
New Member
10 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 762
Likes: 18
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

I highly doubt this is true.


Probably stuff 15 year olds tell each other before they get their Civics and Integras.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 09:59 PM
  #14  
Italianjoe1's Avatar
Italianjoe1
New Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,607
Likes: 14
From: Miami, FL
Default

It is somewhat true, your injectors wash the carbon buildup off the intake valves, and if you're never going full throttle you don't get a lot of flow and can get plenty of gunk on there. Crankcase vacuum is also stronger at low throttle opening crusing, meaning that more oil vapors and stuff gets pulled back into the intake via the PCV system than at higher RPM/Throttle opening operations.

I've always seen my engines clean inside when I open them up and I beat them religiously. I take apart fairly low-mileage cars at work and see tons of buildup on parts.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2013 | 01:56 AM
  #15  
Spork's Avatar
Spork
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 27,592
Likes: 6
From: MN
Default

Originally Posted by SQuaLZ
Can't say for all cars but my uncle that works for BMW said BMWs have the most engine problems with elderly owners, since the engines get sooo much carbon buildup.

I have also seen an RX7 that was babied for over 20k miles, never taken even close the redline, and blew on its 2nd quarter mile run.
I feel this is an extremely subjective opinion.

A BMW tech will say they have the most engine problems. A Mercedes tech will say they have the most engine problems. A Hyundai tech will say they have the most engine problems. So on and so forth...

13B's are time bombs. This is like pointing out when a shop's purpose-built drag car blows.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2013 | 02:48 AM
  #16  
SQuaLZ's Avatar
SQuaLZ
New Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,382
Likes: 116
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by Spork
I feel this is an extremely subjective opinion.

A BMW tech will say they have the most engine problems. A Mercedes tech will say they have the most engine problems. A Hyundai tech will say they have the most engine problems. So on and so forth...

13B's are time bombs. This is like pointing out when a shop's purpose-built drag car blows.
Yes this is totally the opinion of my uncle's professional experience which he has over 35 years of from BMW, Volvo, Fiat and Alfa Romeo, and Porsche. I'm not trying to act like he is 100% right, I'm just saying that I do listen to his knowledge as he does have alot of experience at his jobs as well as all the cars he built from the ground up in his garage.

The 13B is subjective too, because as you said they are ticking time bombs. It could have been a cooncidence, sure, they are unreliable cars. I just thought it was weird that it was literally the 2nd time in 20k miles that the car went to redline and just blew.

Last edited by SQuaLZ; Apr 19, 2013 at 02:50 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2013 | 04:29 AM
  #17  
kellam's Avatar
kellam
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
From: marley md
Default

i dont know about the engine wear, but i do know my car is happier when i get into it.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2013 | 05:31 AM
  #18  
SlamHamer's Avatar
SlamHamer
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: Lehigh Valley, PA
Default

Originally Posted by DarkCreep
I highly doubt this is true.


Probably stuff 15 year olds tell each other before they get their Civics and Integras.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2013 | 05:40 AM
  #19  
2004Black350z's Avatar
2004Black350z
Exhaust Whore
Premier Member
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 17
From: NC
Default

60% of the time works every time
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2013 | 05:49 AM
  #20  
BornSlippyZ's Avatar
BornSlippyZ
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,418
Likes: 2
From: Minnesota!
Default

On the point of rotaries, most of the FD engines/cars I have seen back in the 90's, were poorly maintained (oil level/change) by the owners IMO. These engines burn oil so if you never check your oil level, the engine (apex seals etc) is going to go bad quickly.
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:29 AM.