Is the HR worth it?
#126
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I felt the difference in my civic between having a passenger or just me in the car, but not in my Z. I know every lb counts but my point was the power to weight ratio is better in the HR then DE.
With that being said, at my last autox event my fastest time was with a passenger, and he was a pretty big guy. Maybe his weight helped me with traction lol.
With that being said, at my last autox event my fastest time was with a passenger, and he was a pretty big guy. Maybe his weight helped me with traction lol.
This is usually the case ^
#127
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Here is my experience with my 07 base model.
i had a stock 07 and my best friend has a 03 model with cold air intake and thats it , we have races many times on the free way and from a dig (dont let the cops catch you doing that in california ) on the free way we did run from 40 to top stays pretty even but then his car starts to loose power and i just start pulling, keep in mind this is when my car was stock, we also did a race from 60 miles an hour to top a lil even then i just pull away , from dig like many people have said 0-30 his car beat me but then i catch up and leave him in the dust i just recently added dual cold air short ram and contrary to what people have said here it helped out my car i dont know how much i got in gains but my friends z just has no choice he doesent keep up for a bit before i start to pull away like before now its just i straight up start pulling no chance what so ever so he added an exhaust system and so did it and there is just no comparison the hr is boss DE is not . hes had many problems ever since he got his car he has always been at the mechanic its always some BS mine is 6 speed manual and his is 5 speed auto. for my current job i drive a lot i was putting 600miles a week in my z for about 3 months an never ever had a problem with anything im not going to lie i drive my car hard and its never failed on me today i bought jwt clutch and flywheel because i have a feeling the clutch is about to take a dump on me ( original clutch since 07) i believe that once i put in the new clutch it will last for the remainder of the cars life . and by the way i keep up with all the maintenance in my car changes all the fluids accordingly always get mobil 1 oil and i always use " supreme gas " 91 if you have the money get HR/
i had a stock 07 and my best friend has a 03 model with cold air intake and thats it , we have races many times on the free way and from a dig (dont let the cops catch you doing that in california ) on the free way we did run from 40 to top stays pretty even but then his car starts to loose power and i just start pulling, keep in mind this is when my car was stock, we also did a race from 60 miles an hour to top a lil even then i just pull away , from dig like many people have said 0-30 his car beat me but then i catch up and leave him in the dust i just recently added dual cold air short ram and contrary to what people have said here it helped out my car i dont know how much i got in gains but my friends z just has no choice he doesent keep up for a bit before i start to pull away like before now its just i straight up start pulling no chance what so ever so he added an exhaust system and so did it and there is just no comparison the hr is boss DE is not . hes had many problems ever since he got his car he has always been at the mechanic its always some BS mine is 6 speed manual and his is 5 speed auto. for my current job i drive a lot i was putting 600miles a week in my z for about 3 months an never ever had a problem with anything im not going to lie i drive my car hard and its never failed on me today i bought jwt clutch and flywheel because i have a feeling the clutch is about to take a dump on me ( original clutch since 07) i believe that once i put in the new clutch it will last for the remainder of the cars life . and by the way i keep up with all the maintenance in my car changes all the fluids accordingly always get mobil 1 oil and i always use " supreme gas " 91 if you have the money get HR/
#129
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Here is my experience with my 07 base model.
i had a stock 07 and my best friend has a 03 model with cold air intake and thats it , we have races many times on the free way and from a dig (dont let the cops catch you doing that in california ) on the free way we did run from 40 to top stays pretty even but then his car starts to loose power and i just start pulling, keep in mind this is when my car was stock, we also did a race from 60 miles an hour to top a lil even then i just pull away , from dig like many people have said 0-30 his car beat me but then i catch up and leave him in the dust i just recently added dual cold air short ram and contrary to what people have said here it helped out my car i dont know how much i got in gains but my friends z just has no choice he doesent keep up for a bit before i start to pull away like before now its just i straight up start pulling no chance what so ever so he added an exhaust system and so did it and there is just no comparison the hr is boss DE is not . hes had many problems ever since he got his car he has always been at the mechanic its always some BS mine is 6 speed manual and his is 5 speed auto. for my current job i drive a lot i was putting 600miles a week in my z for about 3 months an never ever had a problem with anything im not going to lie i drive my car hard and its never failed on me today i bought jwt clutch and flywheel because i have a feeling the clutch is about to take a dump on me ( original clutch since 07) i believe that once i put in the new clutch it will last for the remainder of the cars life . and by the way i keep up with all the maintenance in my car changes all the fluids accordingly always get mobil 1 oil and i always use " supreme gas " 91 if you have the money get HR/
i had a stock 07 and my best friend has a 03 model with cold air intake and thats it , we have races many times on the free way and from a dig (dont let the cops catch you doing that in california ) on the free way we did run from 40 to top stays pretty even but then his car starts to loose power and i just start pulling, keep in mind this is when my car was stock, we also did a race from 60 miles an hour to top a lil even then i just pull away , from dig like many people have said 0-30 his car beat me but then i catch up and leave him in the dust i just recently added dual cold air short ram and contrary to what people have said here it helped out my car i dont know how much i got in gains but my friends z just has no choice he doesent keep up for a bit before i start to pull away like before now its just i straight up start pulling no chance what so ever so he added an exhaust system and so did it and there is just no comparison the hr is boss DE is not . hes had many problems ever since he got his car he has always been at the mechanic its always some BS mine is 6 speed manual and his is 5 speed auto. for my current job i drive a lot i was putting 600miles a week in my z for about 3 months an never ever had a problem with anything im not going to lie i drive my car hard and its never failed on me today i bought jwt clutch and flywheel because i have a feeling the clutch is about to take a dump on me ( original clutch since 07) i believe that once i put in the new clutch it will last for the remainder of the cars life . and by the way i keep up with all the maintenance in my car changes all the fluids accordingly always get mobil 1 oil and i always use " supreme gas " 91 if you have the money get HR/
#130
Ummm...what? LOL. 2 to 3 seconds??? Suddenly a 13.1 quarter car (some guys on the 370 site have high 12's stock) and under 5 seconds to 60 takes two to three seconds for...what exacly? lol
#131
Here is my experience with my 07 base model.
i had a stock 07 and my best friend has a 03 model with cold air intake and thats it , we have races many times on the free way and from a dig (dont let the cops catch you doing that in california ) on the free way we did run from 40 to top stays pretty even but then his car starts to loose power and i just start pulling, keep in mind this is when my car was stock, we also did a race from 60 miles an hour to top a lil even then i just pull away , from dig like many people have said 0-30 his car beat me but then i catch up and leave him in the dust i just recently added dual cold air short ram and contrary to what people have said here it helped out my car i dont know how much i got in gains but my friends z just has no choice he doesent keep up for a bit before i start to pull away like before now its just i straight up start pulling no chance what so ever so he added an exhaust system and so did it and there is just no comparison the hr is boss DE is not . hes had many problems ever since he got his car he has always been at the mechanic its always some BS mine is 6 speed manual and his is 5 speed auto. for my current job i drive a lot i was putting 600miles a week in my z for about 3 months an never ever had a problem with anything im not going to lie i drive my car hard and its never failed on me today i bought jwt clutch and flywheel because i have a feeling the clutch is about to take a dump on me ( original clutch since 07) i believe that once i put in the new clutch it will last for the remainder of the cars life . and by the way i keep up with all the maintenance in my car changes all the fluids accordingly always get mobil 1 oil and i always use " supreme gas " 91 if you have the money get HR/
i had a stock 07 and my best friend has a 03 model with cold air intake and thats it , we have races many times on the free way and from a dig (dont let the cops catch you doing that in california ) on the free way we did run from 40 to top stays pretty even but then his car starts to loose power and i just start pulling, keep in mind this is when my car was stock, we also did a race from 60 miles an hour to top a lil even then i just pull away , from dig like many people have said 0-30 his car beat me but then i catch up and leave him in the dust i just recently added dual cold air short ram and contrary to what people have said here it helped out my car i dont know how much i got in gains but my friends z just has no choice he doesent keep up for a bit before i start to pull away like before now its just i straight up start pulling no chance what so ever so he added an exhaust system and so did it and there is just no comparison the hr is boss DE is not . hes had many problems ever since he got his car he has always been at the mechanic its always some BS mine is 6 speed manual and his is 5 speed auto. for my current job i drive a lot i was putting 600miles a week in my z for about 3 months an never ever had a problem with anything im not going to lie i drive my car hard and its never failed on me today i bought jwt clutch and flywheel because i have a feeling the clutch is about to take a dump on me ( original clutch since 07) i believe that once i put in the new clutch it will last for the remainder of the cars life . and by the way i keep up with all the maintenance in my car changes all the fluids accordingly always get mobil 1 oil and i always use " supreme gas " 91 if you have the money get HR/
#132
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That is what I thought, but now I am working hard on ignoring the ricers.
On a side note of all that crap about street racing, you will lose from a dig at the begining since you have an open diff. Biggest downside of having a base. I am buying a LSD very soon, it is driving me crazy when I autox.
On a side note of all that crap about street racing, you will lose from a dig at the begining since you have an open diff. Biggest downside of having a base. I am buying a LSD very soon, it is driving me crazy when I autox.
Last edited by SQuaLZ; 08-26-2013 at 08:38 AM.
#133
That is what I thought, but now I am working hard on ignoring the ricers.
On a side note of all that crap about street racing, you will lose from a dig at the begining since you have an open diff. Biggest downside of having a base. I am buying a LSD very soon, it is driving me crazy when I autox.
On a side note of all that crap about street racing, you will lose from a dig at the begining since you have an open diff. Biggest downside of having a base. I am buying a LSD very soon, it is driving me crazy when I autox.
#134
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Look at accelerator pedal position, then look at TPS.
Any other questions?
I do know what the f*ck I'm talking about. You said your old 350Z feels stronger off the line than the 370Z, well here's the reason it feels that way. From 1680rpm the pedal is floored, and 30mph doesn't occur until around 3500rpm, but TPS doesn't max out until ~4000rpm.
Last edited by T_K; 08-27-2013 at 07:44 PM.
#135
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That is what I thought, but now I am working hard on ignoring the ricers.
On a side note of all that crap about street racing, you will lose from a dig at the begining since you have an open diff. Biggest downside of having a base. I am buying a LSD very soon, it is driving me crazy when I autox.
On a side note of all that crap about street racing, you will lose from a dig at the begining since you have an open diff. Biggest downside of having a base. I am buying a LSD very soon, it is driving me crazy when I autox.
On a sidenote, the worst part of a base is not having cruise, but can be remedied with UpRev and ~$100 in switches.
Last edited by T_K; 08-27-2013 at 07:57 PM.
#136
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Don't waste your money. I bought a used VLSD unit and assembled and installed it myself. Six months down the line you can take a guess at what mod is at the top of my shopping list. If you're the type of driver to actually go out and buy a VLSD and have it installed, you're more than likely the type of driver that will get tired of it's lackluster performance very quickly. It's not awful for the street, but it's only marginally better when used in autocross and the better you get at the courses, the less helpful it becomes.
On a sidenote, the worst part of a base is not having cruise, but can be remedied with UpRev and ~$100 in switches.
On a sidenote, the worst part of a base is not having cruise, but can be remedied with UpRev and ~$100 in switches.
Have you switched to a new LSD since?
Not having cruise is probably number 2 on the things I wish I had on my car
#137
Look at accelerator pedal position, then look at TPS.
Any other questions?
I do know what the f*ck I'm talking about. You said your old 350Z feels stronger off the line than the 370Z, well here's the reason it feels that way. From 1680rpm the pedal is floored, and 30mph doesn't occur until around 3500rpm, but TPS doesn't max out until ~4000rpm.
#139
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Yes 370Z LSD is standard, on 350Z the base has an open diff, which I think is so stupid that they would even sell such a high horsepower car like that.
I was thinking of getting an aftermarket such as Cusco, since I have heard the VLSD is garbage.
Have you switched to a new LSD since?
Not having cruise is probably number 2 on the things I wish I had on my car
I was thinking of getting an aftermarket such as Cusco, since I have heard the VLSD is garbage.
Have you switched to a new LSD since?
Not having cruise is probably number 2 on the things I wish I had on my car
If you do get the VLSD, you should consider the 370z carrier since it comes with a slightly shorter final drive. It'll shorten 2nd gear for autocross.
#140
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I find that completely wrong. maybe half a second tops. Everybody would notice a 3 second delay really bad.
I would say in my experience MB has the biggest delays on their throttle and even they are not 3 seconds.