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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 06:09 AM
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So I have a 2008 Z that I am wanting to put an LSD in. I'm not 100% sure if it's an enthusiast or base but the differential in it sucks. In rain/snow, one tire constantly breaking lose is just dangerous. No I'm not just mashing the gas either. My question though is:
1. What suggestions do you have for a diff? I don't need super high performance, it's just my DD.
2. What modifications need to be made to convert? I'm asking because i'm not sure how the TCS system that some have works. Mine has no buttons on the steering wheel

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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 06:35 AM
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If you don't plan on using the LSD towards tracking your car then I'd just get the oem vlsd. You more than likely have a base model which comes with the open diff. If you have no steering wheel controls then you have a base.

Vlsd can be found for around $2-300 and they are a direct swap.
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by graham0599
So I have a 2008 Z that I am wanting to put an LSD in. I'm not 100% sure if it's an enthusiast or base but the differential in it sucks. In rain/snow, one tire constantly breaking lose is just dangerous. No I'm not just mashing the gas either. My question though is:
1. What suggestions do you have for a diff? I don't need super high performance, it's just my DD.
2. What modifications need to be made to convert? I'm asking because i'm not sure how the TCS system that some have works. Mine has no buttons on the steering wheel

Thanks for any help!
If you got base you should upgrade to quaife differential. That is what I got in my ride. It is a great product but I would make sure you know what you got before you start with diffential. Here is link to the one I got in my base 350z.

http://quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qdf11l

it will transform your car.
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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If you don't want to spend £660, then as BMurray says go for an OEM viscous LSD. They're not brilliant but better than the open diff you currently have on your Base and you can put the $'s you save into another mod.
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Zmandriving
If you got base you should upgrade to quaife differential. That is what I got in my ride. It is a great product but I would make sure you know what you got before you start with diffential. Here is link to the one I got in my base 350z.

http://quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qdf11l

it will transform your car.
Yeah I have the Quaife ATB in my Base 350z, but it's like $1200 bro - The Quaife Differential powers both drive wheels under nearly all conditions, instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential like you have on your base 350z, a lot of precious power is wasted during wheel spin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip (along the path of least resistance) which is what you are having issues with my friend. The Quaife ATB diff, however, does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. It does this smoothly and constantly, and without ever completely removing power from the other. So it doesnt lock both axles together like your typical "LSD"

However, from what it sounds like, you would be happy with just the OEM VLSD from a touring or enthusiast 350z. Buy one for $300 and make sure you get it already inside the pumpkin so that all you have to do is bolt it up under your z. Otherwise if you buy the diff loose and try to install it in your existing pumpkin, it'll take you 12 hours to install it in the pumpkin and then the car or cost you $500+ for a shop to put it in for you.

You dont have to buy anything additional, but you may want to go ahead and replace your rubber diff mounts with polyurethane ones while you are at it...

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...axr7Aod12IAag#
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 12:44 PM
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The axle stubs would need to be replaced if installing a vlsd in an open differential, thats why the quaife is so popular a replacement for the open type.
best to replace the whole pumpkin, make sure the ratio is correct for your model.

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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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If your car has no buttons on the steering wheel, it's a Base with an open diff. Any buttons on the wheel, and it's an Enthusiast or better, already with a factory VLSD. If you can find a whole used VLSD pumpkin (should be <$300), it's a simple bolt-in driveway swap, which requires only hand tools and a few hours.
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ShineMaster
Yeah I have the Quaife ATB in my Base 350z, but it's like $1200 bro - The Quaife Differential powers both drive wheels under nearly all conditions, instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential like you have on your base 350z, a lot of precious power is wasted during wheel spin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip (along the path of least resistance) which is what you are having issues with my friend. The Quaife ATB diff, however, does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. It does this smoothly and constantly, and without ever completely removing power from the other. So it doesnt lock both axles together like your typical "LSD"

However, from what it sounds like, you would be happy with just the OEM VLSD from a touring or enthusiast 350z. Buy one for $300 and make sure you get it already inside the pumpkin so that all you have to do is bolt it up under your z. Otherwise if you buy the diff loose and try to install it in your existing pumpkin, it'll take you 12 hours to install it in the pumpkin and then the car or cost you $500+ for a shop to put it in for you.

You dont have to buy anything additional, but you may want to go ahead and replace your rubber diff mounts with polyurethane ones while you are at it...

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...axr7Aod12IAag#
Do you like this lsd? I'm in the market and everybody seems to get this set up. I was looking at the 1.5 way lsds. I basically want to be able to do some slight drifting and possibly some light track use. Can you light up both tires and rip some sweet donuts with the atb style? Excuse my ignorance
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Old Dec 23, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 08andawesome
Do you like this lsd? I'm in the market and everybody seems to get this set up. I was looking at the 1.5 way lsds. I basically want to be able to do some slight drifting and possibly some light track use. Can you light up both tires and rip some sweet donuts with the atb style? Excuse my ignorance
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zmandriving
Haha saw this video before, it's rad.
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 08andawesome
Do you like this lsd? I'm in the market and everybody seems to get this set up. I was looking at the 1.5 way lsds. I basically want to be able to do some slight drifting and possibly some light track use. Can you light up both tires and rip some sweet donuts with the atb style? Excuse my ignorance
Read this recent thread about the genius doing donuts in his Z, and how he trashed the engine:

https://my350z.com/forum/maintenance...ng-squeal.html

Still sound like a good idea?
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Old Dec 25, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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i have 2007 base, changed the whole Pumpkin with 370z VLSD pumpkin, am very happy now

find a totaled g37/370z/350z and do a pumpkin swap.. dont go through the headache of opening your oem pumpkin.
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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I had VSLD, then open, and now Quiafe.

Quiafe is def. worth the money.
If you're just driving around on the street though, VLSD is all you need. The difference between open diff to vlsd was huge, even just normal highway driving.
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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i would be VERY hesitant to do a full 1.5 or 2 way diff swap on it. i can tell you first hand, the swap is not hard. HOWEVER, if you are even mildly concerned about ride quality, i would stick to a nismo or other stock type vsld pumpkin swap. i have the KAAZ way diff in mine and it is very very noticable. when i had the diff at 100% lock, the car ratcheted around turns and made popping noises. and in order to change the lock setting, you have to pull the entire pumpkin and take the diff apart to re-arrange the clutch packs. its a PITA. at %60 its not too bad but it sounds like you just want better traction with a stock ride quality. stick to the vsld and get some wide tires. you should be good to go. PM me if you have any more questions, i have taken those damn diffs apart quite a few times and am intimately fimiliar with the process and parts involved in the swap.
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