Aftermarket Steering Wheels - safety?
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Aftermarket Steering Wheels - safety?
Just browsing the local CL and saw this interesting pic from a listing for a wrecked '08 Z. Note how the aftermarket wheel is slightly inverted and pushed back toward the dash. Who wouldn't rather have a nice comfy airbag in their chest instead?
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The other pics show the car in a pretty bad front-end collision, so I think the wheel collapsed when his/her chest hit it. Don't know for sure, and I'm not going to look at the car. It looked pretty ricey, though, with the '08 Bi-Xenon lights swapped for eBay junk, eBay spoiler and plastidipped wheels.
I have an aftermarket wheel on my '87 Alfa, which is a pre-airbag car, but it's a Momo wheel and it has a collapsible Momo hub.
I have an aftermarket wheel on my '87 Alfa, which is a pre-airbag car, but it's a Momo wheel and it has a collapsible Momo hub.
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My T3-spec Z racecar has a Momo steering wheel with a quick disconnect, but there's also a camlock five-point harnesses to hold the nut behind the wheel in place. For the street, I'd much rather have an airbag with the OEM three point harness in my Z.
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Probably didn't pass the lean test
On a side note, a quality hub may have collapsing segments to lessen an impact... but I've seen people bust their chest up pretty good hitting stationary objects I can't imagine a head on collision and taking the full brunt through the wheel. Say hello to death by impalement.
On a side note, a quality hub may have collapsing segments to lessen an impact... but I've seen people bust their chest up pretty good hitting stationary objects I can't imagine a head on collision and taking the full brunt through the wheel. Say hello to death by impalement.
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Going back to OP's question regarding safety, I'm close to pulling the trigger on an aftermarket steering wheel setup (Works Bell short hub, NRG Q/R, Personal wheel) and was wondering the same thing. Is the lack of airbag worth the benefits? I've never seen a track day and the car will remain for street use. Reason I want an aftermarket one is
a) I don't like how big and meaty the stock wheel is, feels too clumsy
b) Street parking makes my car prone to being stolen. Now I live in a pretty good neighbourhood and the chances of that happening is pretty slim, but if I could even eliminate the 1% chance of it happening, it seems justified to me
What do you guys think?
a) I don't like how big and meaty the stock wheel is, feels too clumsy
b) Street parking makes my car prone to being stolen. Now I live in a pretty good neighbourhood and the chances of that happening is pretty slim, but if I could even eliminate the 1% chance of it happening, it seems justified to me
What do you guys think?
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Going back to OP's question regarding safety, I'm close to pulling the trigger on an aftermarket steering wheel setup (Works Bell short hub, NRG Q/R, Personal wheel) and was wondering the same thing. Is the lack of airbag worth the benefits? I've never seen a track day and the car will remain for street use. Reason I want an aftermarket one is
a) I don't like how big and meaty the stock wheel is, feels too clumsy
b) Street parking makes my car prone to being stolen. Now I live in a pretty good neighbourhood and the chances of that happening is pretty slim, but if I could even eliminate the 1% chance of it happening, it seems justified to me
What do you guys think?
a) I don't like how big and meaty the stock wheel is, feels too clumsy
b) Street parking makes my car prone to being stolen. Now I live in a pretty good neighbourhood and the chances of that happening is pretty slim, but if I could even eliminate the 1% chance of it happening, it seems justified to me
What do you guys think?
Honestly, the "steering feel" doesnt really matter on the street. Also, the whole "theft detergent" is what ricers uses as an excuse to say they "need one".
First of all, there is NEVER a reason to risk safety for materialistic things. Car gets stolen, you can always buy another.
No need for it in a street car. What do you value more, a "cool" steering wheel or your life.
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Honestly, the "steering feel" doesnt really matter on the street. Also, the whole "theft detergent" is what ricers uses as an excuse to say they "need one".
First of all, there is NEVER a reason to risk safety for materialistic things. Car gets stolen, you can always buy another.
No need for it in a street car. What do you value more, a "cool" steering wheel or your life.
First of all, there is NEVER a reason to risk safety for materialistic things. Car gets stolen, you can always buy another.
No need for it in a street car. What do you value more, a "cool" steering wheel or your life.
For example, going over speed limit to get to work on time. What do you value more, getting to work on time or your life?
Looks like my mind is made. I'll update you guys in a couple years to let you guys know I'm alive (or not)
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I appreciate the input, and I would appreciate it even more if you didn't generalise people into "ricers". I think there's enough room for debate with the "theft detergent" to say that it's my opinion against yours. Anywho, to be quite frank I'm looking for someone to talk me out of it because I definitely agree with the safety factor. I also can't deny that the "cool factor" influences my decision. But then again you could say that for a lot of things.
For example, going over speed limit to get to work on time. What do you value more, getting to work on time or your life?
Looks like my mind is made. I'll update you guys in a couple years to let you guys know I'm alive (or not)
For example, going over speed limit to get to work on time. What do you value more, getting to work on time or your life?
Looks like my mind is made. I'll update you guys in a couple years to let you guys know I'm alive (or not)
Most thefts will happen with a flat-deck tow truck (that's the most common method in my area). They won't even get in the car; just hook it up, drag it on the deck, and drive away.
Most smash-and-dashers won't be able to get the car started without the keys.
Edit: just saw you are in Vancouver. Flat-decks are even more common there than Edmonton.
Last edited by Syner; 04-15-2016 at 11:13 AM.
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Theft deterrent is pure BS. The Z is pretty tough to steal because of its immobilizer system. And, what would you do, walk around with the wheel every time you park the car? You could probably call your insurance company and ask if the Z is a high-risk car for theft, but I'd be willing to bet the answer is no.
As for safety, well you have to pay to play. I think insurance rates should be raised if you intentionally disable a well-proven mandatory safety system in your car. Smokers pay more for life and health insurance, so why not ricers? Think I'm wrong? Call your insurance agent and tell him/her you're removing the airbag.
In the end, I don't really care what people do, as long as it doesn't put others at risk, and you're the only one at risk with the missing airbag. I'm a trauma nurse, and much of my living is based on the stupid things people do to themselves.
As for safety, well you have to pay to play. I think insurance rates should be raised if you intentionally disable a well-proven mandatory safety system in your car. Smokers pay more for life and health insurance, so why not ricers? Think I'm wrong? Call your insurance agent and tell him/her you're removing the airbag.
In the end, I don't really care what people do, as long as it doesn't put others at risk, and you're the only one at risk with the missing airbag. I'm a trauma nurse, and much of my living is based on the stupid things people do to themselves.
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I appreciate the input, and I would appreciate it even more if you didn't generalise people into "ricers". I think there's enough room for debate with the "theft detergent" to say that it's my opinion against yours. Anywho, to be quite frank I'm looking for someone to talk me out of it because I definitely agree with the safety factor. I also can't deny that the "cool factor" influences my decision. But then again you could say that for a lot of things.
For example, going over speed limit to get to work on time. What do you value more, getting to work on time or your life?
Looks like my mind is made. I'll update you guys in a couple years to let you guys know I'm alive (or not)
For example, going over speed limit to get to work on time. What do you value more, getting to work on time or your life?
Looks like my mind is made. I'll update you guys in a couple years to let you guys know I'm alive (or not)
And theft detergent is usually the first excuse a ricer say for removeable steering wheel. Not calling you a ricer,
But if the shoe fits, lace it up
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Haha its hard to argue with this........ And that looks like one of those cheap o POS ebay/autozone wheels.
That said, I am probably going to pick one up, a legit sparco or equivalent for my Z when I finally finish rebuilding her... Because ricecar and I can..
And because I DGAF and bought my bashed up Z to wrench and mod the **** out of it. Probably see some track/auto x events too. Haters ganna hate
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Anywho, I'm close to pulling the trigger on an aftermarket steering wheel setup (Works Bell short hub, NRG Q/R, Personal wheel) Anywho, to be quite frank I'm looking for someone to talk me out of it because I definitely agree with the safety factor. I also can't deny that the "cool factor" influences my decision. But then again you could say that for a lot of things.
Anyhow, my stock steering wheel still looks new after 9 years of ownership! So this may be a compulsive buy on my part but at least I have all my info sorted out and know what I want when it comes to buying when I'm ready.
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At a 240sx meet I stopped to get gas another guy in his car was at the station waiting for a tow truck because while he went in to pay, someone had reached in through the window and snatched the wheel and was gone before anyone could look see it happen. They got the back of a grey hoodie on the camera and that was about it.
There is little reason to go aftermarket on a street car to begin with, with the only seemingly justifiable reason to replace an "ugly" wheel, but I personally don't find the wheel of the Z particularly unattractive. Lack of safety added on top of that and the money is easily spent elsewhere.
There is little reason to go aftermarket on a street car to begin with, with the only seemingly justifiable reason to replace an "ugly" wheel, but I personally don't find the wheel of the Z particularly unattractive. Lack of safety added on top of that and the money is easily spent elsewhere.