Doesn't sound insane but I think this can be doable if you're serious about it. I think it'll be a money pit for sure, but investing money into our cars is a money pit minus dash cams. Some are just more meaningful/efficient then others on a general sense. You can try get there; You can try porting the intake manifold/runner yourself at home, run E85, big cams, PPE and more. I don't know what it'll take but those are some ideas to start. I'd swap in an RB26DETT in my Z33 instead of building my expensive N/A HR.

 

Oh, Jesus Christ...

 

I agree with ya Dark … 'should be' and 'possible' … initially I thought he was running a DE

I think the 3.7liter guys are getting into the 330hp area with bolt-ons & tunes

OPs in the ballpark - hopefully he follows through bc I'd love to see it!

 

Yup, a Rebello built (with an OS Giken multi-valve head ) that is overseen by Z Car Garage is putting out somewhere in the vicinity of 350-400 wheel. There's a clip of Rob on that show JDM Legends where he's showing the car to Eric and Josh at JCCS a year ago. I've seen the car at the shop a few times. Awesome, but can't even imagine the $$ invested in it. Someone's gotta do it to set the bar high!

http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/02/...s-exotic-240z/

https://www.zcarblog.com/2015/11/16/...in-action.html (and this is four years ago! Car now has a 350Z 6-speed in it and dyno'd 400 crank on the Rebello dyno (as of last year). Who knows a year later?!

Agree, all doable. Whether it makes any sense to the rest of us is irrelevant. If OP wants to do it after a number of people say not to, I say, why not? Comes down to whether "proven RESULTS" or "proving a point, damn the cost" is more important to a builder.

bealljk makes a good point. The Z34 Nismo NA motor is at 350 crank right out of the box vs the 3.7 VHR through tuning. Throw some more cash at it for mo'power, 350 wheel is fairly "easy" to achieve with further tuning. I too want to see the dyno printout!

 

Honestly I don't follow HRs all that much but I have dome info in my head about them and a general idea of what they can do. I however don't know if the make ITB kits for them, there are 2 things that are a must for a serious NA build IMO and that is a dry sump and ITBs. That's 10k but if you are serious it's needed, I love NA engines but they just aren't cost effective when it comes to the VQ. Initially I wanted a bored block, nismo heads, valvetrain, cams and VTC pulleys, and I wanted a custom intake setup with a 75hp shot of nitrous. Would it be fun? Sure, but it would be an expensive and hard to tune engine, that's why I just chose to get that out of my head. I am curious, does anyone know how much Sasha's engine costs? I don't think he's talked about it, I'm very interested to see it setup with the hybrid system.

 

It's only money, lots of downtime too. I bet at 350 whp it will require a freshen up every 3 to 4 thousand miles

 

This linked write up is worth a read, according to it 350 at the wheels is quite attainable from a DE although I do wonder about the accuracy of some quoted power figures in general.

https://speed.academy/fast-nissan-35...-vq-power-itb/

 

Idk, seems like a lot of time and money for what is, IMO, a minimal amount of gains. Not to mention he is running a set of custom fabricated headers and a custom air box setup on those ITBs. Dumping that amount of RD, fabrication, and money into a NA build for the power he is making just doesn't seem justifiable when I could stick with the same internal upgrades he did, install a turbocharger and make those same numbers with more room to go with minimal effort.

 

But op has all the money in the world.....so he makes it seem

 

I think we're past entertaining the idea lol

This thread has moreso evolved to Sasha's build an NA engines.

 

That article is about Sasha's first setup, which is pretty much bolt ons off the shelf (other than the boxes) stock DE bottom. Numbers are real, he does this for a living so that kind of commitment isn't going to work for the average DE owner. I think OP didn't mean he has all the money, more like he's willing to go long with it. That's my approach with my car, I don't have stacks of cash but on average I've put $5k into the car a year. I could be FI by now but I want a complete package lol, and don't necessarily feel a rush to add more power.

 

Also factor in that Sasha is a tuner(he runs on-point race), with full access to a dyno, a wealth of real-world knowledge, and all the time in the world.

I have a similar approach - I budget money every month to get things done, I do my best to plan things out, and follow the plan.

Not like I am short on cash, time, tasks ... but I'd love to tackle a high compression / high-rev / ridiculous cam'd / high flow intake/exh DE build ...

 

doooo ittttt!!!

 

I really want to get this turbo build wrapped up and I'll will ...

 

Hence why I said he did it for a living lol. Unfortunately the DE has problems with high revs, he went from DE to HR to VHR. I don't recall if he had the dry sump on the DE when it failed, but realistically I would say 7500 rpm should be the max revs without a dry sump. I would like to see someone actually make some decent numbers on a manifold setup whether it's with 1 or 2 TBs.

 

and where is the OP??

 

Hopefully researching LS and 2J swaps.

 

i just looked at his profile.... he said he will spend all his money blah blah blah, he is 20 years old... i know when i was 20 "all my money" was like $500

 

At least not pretend my dad's money is my money.