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Old May 12, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Question Attn: People using the grounding kits.

I am seriously looking into getting a kit. I have a slightly rough idle and what I have read the grounding kit might help. Are there any cons to getting the kit that I should consider before going out and buying one.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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No drawbacks from what I can tell... It was one of my first mods.
Get a kit made especially for the Z-- no universal kits please!
Yes, idle does seem smoother...
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Old May 12, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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the stillen grounding kit works fine for me...
as far as the idling, there's been lots of discussion on this forum about it. Mine idles slightly rough when it gets down around the 700 RPM range. some folks have attributed this to Injen CAIs (i have one, but i noticed slightly rough idling before i put it on). others think it's an air metering problem. others, like yourself, wonder if maybe the engine should needs to be grounded. I've just learned not to let it bug me. it's not too noticeable, the car doesn't stall, and it's not hurting anything.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Oh, I'll say it...Just cause I'm feeling fiesty....

USE THE F'ing SEARCH!!!! This has been discussed at least 1000 times by now.

That said, I noticed smoother idle when I installed my 5-wire insanemine kit, but none of the power claims that some make.

Hope this helps..
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Old May 12, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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oh. leave him alone about the search, dude. no one likes to use it. I think that by now if you went back far enough, you'd find a question & answer about every bolt and gasket on the Z, but then what would be the point of posting anything new? I guess some folks just don't remember when their Z's were new and they had questions....
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Old May 12, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by kcobean
Oh, I'll say it...Just cause I'm feeling fiesty....

USE THE F'ing SEARCH!!!! This has been discussed at least 1000 times by now.

That said, I noticed smoother idle when I installed my 5-wire insanemine kit, but none of the power claims that some make.

Hope this helps..
Actually give the search a try no one has made a post asking about the cons. The majority of the posts consist of "Rough Idle what can I do" every reply is grouding kit. I just wanted to know of any cons.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by ChuckGZ
oh. leave him alone about the search, dude. no one likes to use it. I think that by now if you went back far enough, you'd find a question & answer about every bolt and gasket on the Z, but then what would be the point of posting anything new? I guess some folks just don't remember when their Z's were new and they had questions....
Hey Chuck, I was just giving him a hard time. It seems like a favorite thing for alot of people to say these days, so I was just taking a little time to be a smart-@$$. I'm with ya...The search can sometimes be a little overwhelming when searching for"high hit-rate" targets.

On that note, I think it would be a good thing to do to permit a 'date range' in the search so that at least you can see if similar posts have been made "recently".......Who knows.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by SilverstoneZ
Actually give the search a try no one has made a post asking about the cons. The majority of the posts consist of "Rough Idle what can I do" every reply is grouding kit. I just wanted to know of any cons.
Fair enough...I hope you didn't take my post seriously....I was just in a mood

I'll give you one con: I don't think any of the kits look all that nice. You take your nice clean engine compartment and start stringing cables all over the place, it's almost a detractor from the beautiful VQ35 / engine cover/ sway bar....I have a nice red kit on my Redline, but it still just looks 'wiry'.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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Its a nice dress up for the engine.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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There are a bunch of kits out there. I went with Z-Enterprises 7 wire kit. 7 wires seem a bit much, but it was recommended for the 5AT. The 7th wire actually attatches to the tranny housing. Most guys with 6MTs are going with a 5 wire kit.

What ever brand you use, get a custom cut kit. It will fit and look a lot better than a universal kit from Ebay. Also, be sure that they use 4 gauge wire and gold terminal connectors.

Here's a link to Z-Enterprises. I totally recommend it. I ordered on Friday, received it on Monday. Instructions come with pictures that let even a mechanincal misfit like me get the job done.

http://www.maxground.com/ground.htm
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Old May 13, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by FairladyZ
Its a nice dress up for the engine.
Some people just love to argue
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Old May 13, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by kcobean
Some people just love to argue
You figured me out.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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the grounding kit is dumb, i didnt notice any difference.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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IMHO if you could get a smoother running engine with more power just by grounding the engine better, don't you think Nissan would have spent an extra $.50 and installed more grounding straps between the chassis and the drivetrain? Also, with all the electronic controls in the car, having a good and constant ground is vital, and the engineers at Nissan I'm sure made sure that there wouldn't be any differences in grounds and/or grounding loops in the car. As anyone measured for ground differences between the chassis and the engine with a voltmeter?
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Old May 13, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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I believe the 350Z's in Japan are grounded from the factory (thuse the empty bolt holes on the motor), when they come to the US they "de-ground" them. You can buy the actual Nissan kit from Courtesy Parts, but I went with a vendor (whole lot cheaper).

Not sure why they removed the ground wires though.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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awesome thanks everyone
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Old May 13, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by FairladyZ
I believe the 350Z's in Japan are grounded from the factory (thuse the empty bolt holes on the motor), when they come to the US they "de-ground" them. You can buy the actual Nissan kit from Courtesy Parts, but I went with a vendor (whole lot cheaper).

Not sure why they removed the ground wires though.
If you are talking about the two bolt holes on the top rear of the intake plenum.....they are to hold the G35 engine cover on.

The factory uses as little grounding as they can. Everything the designers want to do has to get past the accountants.

Is 5 or 7 4 gauge grounding wires overkill? Probably... Is spending $700 on a new exhaust to get 7HP any different.

Everything you do to your car should be for your enjoyment and satisfaction whether its maximizing the grounding system for $50 or pumping $10K into a forced induction setup.

ALL IMHO of course....
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by kcobean
I'll give you one con: I don't think any of the kits look all that nice. You take your nice clean engine compartment and start stringing cables all over the place, it's almost a detractor from the beautiful VQ35 / engine cover/ sway bar....I have a nice red kit on my Redline, but it still just looks 'wiry'.
To each his own.....
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Old May 13, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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I definitely think it helps with any kind of aftermarket stereo setup!
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Old May 13, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by MonkeyBoy
I definitely think it helps with any kind of aftermarket stereo setup!
I would agree that you'll find more of a benefit to your high-fi; and I don't mean just the basic stereo system. The more accurate and detailed your sound reproduction, the more the RF distortion, etc. will be detectable. The grounding kit would definitely help in dissipating the electrical distortion.

As for the performance of the car itself, it is debatable; I suppose I'd know myself, as once I have my engine tweaked and dynoed, I shall install the grounding kit and see how much a difference it'll really make.

But, obviously it won't hurt any, if installed correctly, as recommended.

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