For those on the West Coast awaiting their Zs (must read):
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For those on the West Coast awaiting their Zs (must read):
I spoke to the Fleet Manager (Andrea Coultas) at Douglas Nissan of Orange this evening. She informed me that approximately 400 (!) 350Zs are floating next to the ports. She also stated that of all Nissan vehicles sitting on the cargo ships, the Zs are getting first priority in unloading and occasionally a gutsy port-worker will unload a Z or two from the ship.
Anyway, she expects the Zs to be here in the next week or so!
(I ordered 5/26/02, I'm order# W179406 and my VIN is here.. Scafremon, thanks for all of your work in putting together the soup. I'll post my VIN when the manager calls me from the dealership tomorrow.)
Anyway, she expects the Zs to be here in the next week or so!
(I ordered 5/26/02, I'm order# W179406 and my VIN is here.. Scafremon, thanks for all of your work in putting together the soup. I'll post my VIN when the manager calls me from the dealership tomorrow.)
#5
Originally posted by PrototypeStan
my car could be on those boats!!
wooooooohooo
my car could be on those boats!!
wooooooohooo
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going back and reading my post above, i come off as harsh, but i don't mean to, i'm curious why she would say something like that when she has no better idea (in fact NO ONE does, not even the workers, the union or the ports) than anyone else on when this situation will be resolved..
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Under the Gun
I just got my car released before they locked things out. I received a call from Nissan that my car was loaded on the truck but instead of arriving Monday it would be Tuesday, that was last week. I feel for you guys, hang in there.
#10
Originally posted by ___DJK___
The strike is ******** as far as im concerned. I heard those dockworkers make like 100k a year to unload crates. WTF, 100K, why the hell did i go to college!
The strike is ******** as far as im concerned. I heard those dockworkers make like 100k a year to unload crates. WTF, 100K, why the hell did i go to college!
Its a LOCKOUT, not a strike.
See the difference? Management has decided to stop the
workers from unloading the ships, NOT the other way around.
Sure, management says they were just responding to slow downs by the union. And of course, the union says they were just responding to management's attempts to force them to extend the existing contract. But at the end, the story is still the same. Management is not letting the workers work. That's called a lockout.
#11
Originally posted by sage
Obviously not to learn to read or pay attention to the news.
Its a LOCKOUT, not a strike.
See the difference? Management has decided to stop the
workers from unloading the ships, NOT the other way around.
Sure, management says they were just responding to slow downs by the union. And of course, the union says they were just responding to management's attempts to force them to extend the existing contract. But at the end, the story is still the same. Management is not letting the workers work. That's called a lockout.
Obviously not to learn to read or pay attention to the news.
Its a LOCKOUT, not a strike.
See the difference? Management has decided to stop the
workers from unloading the ships, NOT the other way around.
Sure, management says they were just responding to slow downs by the union. And of course, the union says they were just responding to management's attempts to force them to extend the existing contract. But at the end, the story is still the same. Management is not letting the workers work. That's called a lockout.
So whether it's called a strike or a lockout, the workers wouldn't be in this situation if they weren't complaining about their pay.
#12
Originally posted by a_p
Right now I'm work 100 hour weeks for $37k/year, and thats after 8 years of school since I graduated high school. I don't *****, I don't complain, I like what I'm doing. So in my book, working 40hrs/week and getting paid $100k for operating cranes isn't being underpaid.
So whether it's called a strike or a lockout, the workers wouldn't be in this situation if they weren't complaining about their pay.
Right now I'm work 100 hour weeks for $37k/year, and thats after 8 years of school since I graduated high school. I don't *****, I don't complain, I like what I'm doing. So in my book, working 40hrs/week and getting paid $100k for operating cranes isn't being underpaid.
So whether it's called a strike or a lockout, the workers wouldn't be in this situation if they weren't complaining about their pay.
The workers were not complaining about their pay. The unions issues have centered around ensuring that jobs aren't lost to some of the technological innovations that managemet is bringing about.
Agree or disagree with them about that. But at least know what the real issues are. Pay has NOT been an issue.
#13
Originally posted by sage
The workers were not complaining about their pay. The unions issues have centered around ensuring that jobs aren't lost to some of the technological innovations that managemet is bringing about.
Agree or disagree with them about that. But at least know what the real issues are. Pay has NOT been an issue.
The workers were not complaining about their pay. The unions issues have centered around ensuring that jobs aren't lost to some of the technological innovations that managemet is bringing about.
Agree or disagree with them about that. But at least know what the real issues are. Pay has NOT been an issue.
The PMA should implement bar code scanners, and they should find ways to make the ports more efficient. If it involves laying off some workers in the next few years, that's fine. Those who will be working have already been offered salaries of $114,500 to $137,500/yr. Even if some people are laid off in the upcoming years, they should be happy with the big cash they made when they were working.
#14
Originally posted by a_p
The PMA should implement bar code scanners, and they should find ways to make the ports more efficient. If it involves laying off some workers in the next few years, that's fine.
The PMA should implement bar code scanners, and they should find ways to make the ports more efficient. If it involves laying off some workers in the next few years, that's fine.
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