Auto Insurance Emergency!!
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Dear all,
I've been trying to get my hands on a Z for some time now (pre-ordered, wrong trim level was delivered, etc). But now something worse has happened.
It turns out my driving record (i have 4 speeding tickets on my record over the past 3 years, no accidents) is bad enough that my license has been suspended due to the amt of points i have accumulated. I stupidly did not fight the tickets and just payed the fines. Anyway, State Farm has just informed me they will no longer provide my insurance.
Am I screwed for all time!? Please, insurance experts out there, what can I do?
BTW, I am over 25, live in VA and have already taken a drivers ed course for point reduction (I, of course, got another speeding ticket a month after taking the course).
Many thanks for your help,
DK
I've been trying to get my hands on a Z for some time now (pre-ordered, wrong trim level was delivered, etc). But now something worse has happened.
It turns out my driving record (i have 4 speeding tickets on my record over the past 3 years, no accidents) is bad enough that my license has been suspended due to the amt of points i have accumulated. I stupidly did not fight the tickets and just payed the fines. Anyway, State Farm has just informed me they will no longer provide my insurance.
Am I screwed for all time!? Please, insurance experts out there, what can I do?
BTW, I am over 25, live in VA and have already taken a drivers ed course for point reduction (I, of course, got another speeding ticket a month after taking the course).
Many thanks for your help,
DK
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I am no insurance expert, but had a friend who was in the same boat as you. Had a couple of accidents, one at high speed and deemed his fault. Many tickets, lost insurance on primary carrier. He had to go to a high-risk carrier, like Geico (I think that was the one who finally accepted him. He pays out the butt, although he is allowed to drive. It has made him a much more careful driver.
Just check around for another carrier, you may have to lighten the wallet. Good luck.
Just check around for another carrier, you may have to lighten the wallet. Good luck.
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The best way to lower your points is to.....STOP SPEEDING! Naw man, I'm just kidding with ya. I feel your pain on the tickets. Many states offer courses even after you have taken a previous course. Just a thought
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I'd forget about the Z for a while. You MAY be able to get a restricted license just to drive to work and back but that's about it. Virginia is pretty tough on speeders and we don't have the Las Vegas to California speedway like some lucky people (check out the world's largest thermometer!)
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Originally posted by texlace
Strange post. If you do not now have a drivers license, why do you need insurance?
Strange post. If you do not now have a drivers license, why do you need insurance?
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No offense, Donkey, but it sounds like you're asking for advice on how to get around without a license and that just has bad connotations. If you want the car, buy it and have it flat-bedded to your place, but you sure shouldn't be driving it.
How long is your license suspended?
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1. You will have to go to a high-risk carrier and it will cost you LOTS of money. That sucks, but you can get insurance.
2. Generally, incsurance co's only check a 3-year MVR (motor vehicle record), but, after three years if you try to switch to normal-risk carrier from a high-risk you will probably have a 5 or 7 year MVR checked. Here's the deal -- you can't get crap for tickets for the next three years (read = no tickets) if you want any chance of not paying through the but for 5 to 7 years. If you are good, you might make it out in three (and if your older -- 25+)
3. DO NOT LET YOUR INSURANCE LAPSE!!! Deal with this immediately (get with another insurance company but DO DO DO shop around!!). If you lose coverage with one company, the other company will as "have you been without insurance for any time in the last 60 days??" and you have to answer YES by law and you'll get screwed even more.
4. Good luck, I hope you have deep pockets.
5. If you do get another ticket (which you won't, because you CANNOT if you want to keep driving at all) HIRE A LAWYER to fight the ticket. You'll pay the lawyer some money but you will probably keep your license, decrease the fine, maybe wipe out the points or even the ticket all together. In your spot, a lawyer on any future tickets is a must.
6. Ten years form now, when all this is behind you and you haven't had a ticket in years, you'll think "wow, I drove like a maniac back then". Beleive, some of us have been there.
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2. Generally, incsurance co's only check a 3-year MVR (motor vehicle record), but, after three years if you try to switch to normal-risk carrier from a high-risk you will probably have a 5 or 7 year MVR checked. Here's the deal -- you can't get crap for tickets for the next three years (read = no tickets) if you want any chance of not paying through the but for 5 to 7 years. If you are good, you might make it out in three (and if your older -- 25+)
3. DO NOT LET YOUR INSURANCE LAPSE!!! Deal with this immediately (get with another insurance company but DO DO DO shop around!!). If you lose coverage with one company, the other company will as "have you been without insurance for any time in the last 60 days??" and you have to answer YES by law and you'll get screwed even more.
4. Good luck, I hope you have deep pockets.
5. If you do get another ticket (which you won't, because you CANNOT if you want to keep driving at all) HIRE A LAWYER to fight the ticket. You'll pay the lawyer some money but you will probably keep your license, decrease the fine, maybe wipe out the points or even the ticket all together. In your spot, a lawyer on any future tickets is a must.
6. Ten years form now, when all this is behind you and you haven't had a ticket in years, you'll think "wow, I drove like a maniac back then". Beleive, some of us have been there.
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Here is what you can do.
1. Go to www.comparisonmarket.com and you can shop auto rates
2. Take a driver saftey class sponsored by your state as it may reduce your points
3. Get a remote laser/radar detector that has laser jamming
4. Get a scanner
5. Oh and drive a little slower and do your speeding on a track. Your tickets probably cost more than the track time
6. If your insurance lapses you are screwed
1. Go to www.comparisonmarket.com and you can shop auto rates
2. Take a driver saftey class sponsored by your state as it may reduce your points
3. Get a remote laser/radar detector that has laser jamming
4. Get a scanner
5. Oh and drive a little slower and do your speeding on a track. Your tickets probably cost more than the track time
6. If your insurance lapses you are screwed
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That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Although my license may be suspended, its only for two months and I STILL need insurance. I'm actually one month in already cuz I was never notified by DMV (i found out when the insurance company contacted me). I'll have to work out that limited license thing ASAP.
I know there are some guys in the insurance industry out there, anything else I should be aware of in terms of mitigating the costs of new insurance? I am not a crazy driver by any means (no weaving in and out of lanes, etc), I just drive a little faster than traffic, which on most highways = 70-75mph or so.
Many thanks,
DK
I know there are some guys in the insurance industry out there, anything else I should be aware of in terms of mitigating the costs of new insurance? I am not a crazy driver by any means (no weaving in and out of lanes, etc), I just drive a little faster than traffic, which on most highways = 70-75mph or so.
Many thanks,
DK
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I use to work for a big Auto Insurance place and basically this is what your in for. Note this applies to California Laws, but it should apply to where you live as well. By law any insurance company has to at least offer you insurance as long as you have a good driving record (1pt or less on your record which equates into 1 traffic violation, whether it be an accident, speeding, illegal turn, etc--if its an accident as long as no one is hurt its still only 1 pt, but if someone is hurt then its a pt but you will no longer qualify to be a "good driver" anymore). By being a good driver you automatically qualify for a rate reduction equal to about 30% of the regular non-good drivers premium (the rates the company charge are up to them though, not regulated, as long as its consistent with all insured under them). If you have too many pts, non-good driver you can do is sign up for a program called Assigned Risk, as least thats what its called in California, its a state program that guarantees all drivers at least some of insurance. What you do is basically go into any auto ins. broker and sign up some paperwork and they put the paperwork into a pool which will assign you to a Insurance company. In California its a state run thing so they will notify you shortly of the company that will take on your policy (it could be a large ins. compnay to a small nickel and dime company, its randomly assigned based on the numbers of customer you have, the more people with that companies auto ins., the greater amount of Assigned Risk applicants they will have to take on). The big catch here is that they can basically charge you whatever they want. I've seen pretty much they will charge you between $1500 a yr just for liability, and with comp and collision your looking at close to $5k a yr just for ins. alone. Your best bet is to just drive what you have for the time being, and wait until your record cleans up to where you have 1 pt or less. Hope this helps.
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My current insurance will not be cancelled until the end of November. My license should be reinstated before then. Should I wait to get new insurance until my license is completely reinstated (thus, I am at least applying for new insurance with a valid license), or does it not make a difference?
Also, how do high risk insurance premiums compare to the state sponsored premiums (as described in the post above)? 5k/year sounds pretty steep, even for high risk.
Thanks,
DK
Also, how do high risk insurance premiums compare to the state sponsored premiums (as described in the post above)? 5k/year sounds pretty steep, even for high risk.
Thanks,
DK
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Originally posted by donkeykong
My current insurance will not be cancelled until the end of November. My license should be reinstated before then. Should I wait to get new insurance until my license is completely reinstated (thus, I am at least applying for new insurance with a valid license), or does it not make a difference?
Also, how do high risk insurance premiums compare to the state sponsored premiums (as described in the post above)? 5k/year sounds pretty steep, even for high risk.
Thanks,
DK
My current insurance will not be cancelled until the end of November. My license should be reinstated before then. Should I wait to get new insurance until my license is completely reinstated (thus, I am at least applying for new insurance with a valid license), or does it not make a difference?
Also, how do high risk insurance premiums compare to the state sponsored premiums (as described in the post above)? 5k/year sounds pretty steep, even for high risk.
Thanks,
DK
Premiums vary from company to company so you can't really compare, the only thing you can do is actually shop around. I've never heard of high risk insurance from the companies directly, usually they will jsut give you a quote for being a bad driver and charge you whatever they deem to be fit. As far as the state sponsored ones it should be a consistent set rate, but thats only for liability, the minimum needed by law 10/15/5, the company you get assigned with can charge whatever they wish for the comp/coll. When I said around $5k, i meant full coverage with uninsured motorist and property damage comp/coll, everything. You have to remember its based on the car as well and that was just a guess on my part, and I kinda factored in a new Z to that
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Originally posted by drivebywire
Is it possible that someone else buy the full coverage and include your name in it as a secondary driver etc?
Is it possible that someone else buy the full coverage and include your name in it as a secondary driver etc?
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Originally posted by donkeykong
OB when you say to "wait" do you mean wait on buying the Z? Or something else (as I'm pretty sure I can't wait on getting new insurance).
Thanks again for your help
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OB when you say to "wait" do you mean wait on buying the Z? Or something else (as I'm pretty sure I can't wait on getting new insurance).
Thanks again for your help
DK
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Forget the Z for now. The annual car insurance will amount to just about as much as you will pay for the car. Too much to pay for insurance. Get a cheapy used vehicle that insurance companys like, and drive that safely until, for a 5 year DMV chec would reveal no more than 2 points. I know it sucks, but unless yo got lots o money, its the only realistic way. Hell my insurance on the Z, with 0 points, declaring it for pleasure use only, being driven only 10% of the time, and a multi-car discount, for the Z alone is $872.00 anually.
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08 thx for the advice. I drive a 95 Jetta right now, so I can live with liability only on that. It still runs fairly well, so i'm not too pissed.
As far as just reporting the facts, the facts are four speeding tickets (not reckless) and administrative suspension of license (will be reinstated at beginning of Nov). What would constitute too much information?
Really, thanks a lot for the feedback, the situation sucks but i'm feeling at least a little bit informed.
DK
As far as just reporting the facts, the facts are four speeding tickets (not reckless) and administrative suspension of license (will be reinstated at beginning of Nov). What would constitute too much information?
Really, thanks a lot for the feedback, the situation sucks but i'm feeling at least a little bit informed.
DK
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Originally posted by donkeykong
08 thx for the advice. I drive a 95 Jetta right now, so I can live with liability only on that. It still runs fairly well, so i'm not too pissed.
As far as just reporting the facts, the facts are four speeding tickets (not reckless) and administrative suspension of license (will be reinstated at beginning of Nov). What would constitute too much information?
Really, thanks a lot for the feedback, the situation sucks but i'm feeling at least a little bit informed.
DK
08 thx for the advice. I drive a 95 Jetta right now, so I can live with liability only on that. It still runs fairly well, so i'm not too pissed.
As far as just reporting the facts, the facts are four speeding tickets (not reckless) and administrative suspension of license (will be reinstated at beginning of Nov). What would constitute too much information?
Really, thanks a lot for the feedback, the situation sucks but i'm feeling at least a little bit informed.
DK
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