Should I try this? Learn stick shift in 30 minutes.
10-18-2002, 03:33 PM
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Should I try this? Learn stick shift in 30 minutes.
OK. In my search all over florida, it seems there are a lot less AT's available than MT's. I talked to a dealer today, and he has a car on the lot, but it's MT. He says if I go down there tomorrow, he will teach me to drive a MT in 30 minutes. I have pretty good hand-eye-feet coordination (in athletics), so should I give it a shot? I was looking for a AT, but honestly, I do feel a little shy driving my wifes AT vette. And I'm dying to discover the 3rd gear chirp everyone is talking about.
What do you guys say?
What do you guys say?
10-18-2002, 03:39 PM
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First off, I have driven a stick continuously for 38 years so I am biased but you cannot fail learn to drive a manual in 30 minutes. I learned while also trying to learn to drive - that was tough. I have also taught my two kids to drive a stick. It is not that difficult to learn. It is difficult to master but that comes with use and time shifting. The only problem driving a stick is on steep hills. That is not a problem in Jax.
Don't pass up this opportunity. Even if you don't get the car you will then be able to drive any car put in front of you for the rest of your life.
Don't pass up this opportunity. Even if you don't get the car you will then be able to drive any car put in front of you for the rest of your life.
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10-18-2002, 05:02 PM
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I agree... I learned when I was 9 on a tractor in Indiana... I am now 32 and will never drive an automatic - period. My mother drove a '69 Javlin with a 390 engine, the only one they had was an automatic. She has always regreted not waiting for the manual model.
I know a lot of people will trash me for this one... But AT's are for little old ladies who don't have the guts to drive the car the way it was meant to be driven.
It's rear wheel drive people... Drive that car!!! Get after it in first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and in sixth gear.
Trust me, I have owned 6 Nissans, 4 of them Z cars & all of them have performed magnificently. They will last you your lifetime provided you take care of them. Change the oil, do the required maintenance, let her warm up & cool down on drives. But dammit, DRIVE that car!
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I know a lot of people will trash me for this one... But AT's are for little old ladies who don't have the guts to drive the car the way it was meant to be driven.
It's rear wheel drive people... Drive that car!!! Get after it in first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and in sixth gear.
Trust me, I have owned 6 Nissans, 4 of them Z cars & all of them have performed magnificently. They will last you your lifetime provided you take care of them. Change the oil, do the required maintenance, let her warm up & cool down on drives. But dammit, DRIVE that car!
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10-18-2002, 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by Zchick
I agree... I learned when I was 9 on a tractor in Indiana... I am now 32 and will never drive an automatic - period. My mother drove a '69 Javlin with a 390 engine, the only one they had was an automatic. She has always regreted not waiting for the manual model.
I know a lot of people will trash me for this one... But AT's are for little old ladies who don't have the guts to drive the car the way it was meant to be driven.
It's rear wheel drive people... Drive that car!!! Get after it in first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and in sixth gear.
Trust me, I have owned 6 Nissans, 4 of them Z cars & all of them have performed magnificently. They will last you your lifetime provided you take care of them. Change the oil, do the required maintenance, let her warm up & cool down on drives. But dammit, DRIVE that car!
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I agree... I learned when I was 9 on a tractor in Indiana... I am now 32 and will never drive an automatic - period. My mother drove a '69 Javlin with a 390 engine, the only one they had was an automatic. She has always regreted not waiting for the manual model.
I know a lot of people will trash me for this one... But AT's are for little old ladies who don't have the guts to drive the car the way it was meant to be driven.
It's rear wheel drive people... Drive that car!!! Get after it in first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and in sixth gear.
Trust me, I have owned 6 Nissans, 4 of them Z cars & all of them have performed magnificently. They will last you your lifetime provided you take care of them. Change the oil, do the required maintenance, let her warm up & cool down on drives. But dammit, DRIVE that car!
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I learned on a tractor when I was young too (30 years ago) and have 2 280ZX's (MTs). It's not that hard but will take time to learn and more to master (I'm still working on the master part!). And to me that's the key, it's like a game, a challenge if you will, it's what makes a stick shift fun to drive. It's you versus a mechanical device, who is going to win? Everytime I shift, I'm trying for perfection, to me it's a matter of concentration and control (finesse).
He can teach you enough to get you safely home, if not in 30 minutes then in half a day. After that, practice, practice, practice!
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10-18-2002, 05:50 PM
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I remember how much I hated my manual Jetta (even though it is so much fun to drive) when I used to cummute 18 miles in 1 hour in I-94 Detroit.
After pressing clutch so many times, your left leg will say " enough!!".
On the other hand, Sports cars are meant for pleasure.... and therefore, manual is a must!
After pressing clutch so many times, your left leg will say " enough!!".
On the other hand, Sports cars are meant for pleasure.... and therefore, manual is a must!
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The Z has a lot of power so will be harder to stall then a little 4 banger. 30 minutes should be fine.
For safety sake if you live in a hilly area then ask him to show you how to use the parking brake to stop from rolling back when you take your right foot off the brake and move it to the gaz.
With a 30 minute lesson, if you end up at a red light on hill with a car six inches behind you you will do 1 of 3 things.
1. Stall
2. Drop the clutch @ 6000 and smoke your way out of the intersection
3. Hit the guy behind you.
You will not pull away smoothly. With the assist of the parking brake you will.
For safety sake if you live in a hilly area then ask him to show you how to use the parking brake to stop from rolling back when you take your right foot off the brake and move it to the gaz.
With a 30 minute lesson, if you end up at a red light on hill with a car six inches behind you you will do 1 of 3 things.
1. Stall
2. Drop the clutch @ 6000 and smoke your way out of the intersection
3. Hit the guy behind you.
You will not pull away smoothly. With the assist of the parking brake you will.
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10-18-2002, 07:31 PM
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It's Easy
I learned to drive a stick from my dad in our '76 Toyota Corona station wagon. I was learning basic driving at the time. I not only learned to use the stick in about 15 minutes, but he also showed me the principles and value of 'heel-toe' at the same time. My dad was a great driver and a great teacher.
He also taught me to parallel park in our '72 Kingswood Estate wagon (The Barge). That also took about 15 minutes to master under his direction. Amazing how many people out there never had a teacher like my dad. I still chuckle when I see someone struggling to get their small car into a HUGE parallel space.
There is a reason for the bus.
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He also taught me to parallel park in our '72 Kingswood Estate wagon (The Barge). That also took about 15 minutes to master under his direction. Amazing how many people out there never had a teacher like my dad. I still chuckle when I see someone struggling to get their small car into a HUGE parallel space.
There is a reason for the bus.
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Originally posted by Zchick
My mother drove a '69 Javlin with a 390 engine, the only one they had was an automatic.
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My mother drove a '69 Javlin with a 390 engine, the only one they had was an automatic.
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I like my Z more though.
10-19-2002, 04:20 AM
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HAHA...DrAxe you're sure to get flamed for that one from somebody. I noticed you're from Jacksonville too. Is there a club yet for Jacksonville Z'ers?
10-19-2002, 07:09 AM
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heh, auto trannies=bluehair grannies
just my opinion of course
I dont know of any Z clubs in Jax yet. Big town though, I'm sure there would be some interest. There are plenty of other car groups around, they are kind of hard to miss on Saturday nights.
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I dont know of any Z clubs in Jax yet. Big town though, I'm sure there would be some interest. There are plenty of other car groups around, they are kind of hard to miss on Saturday nights.
10-19-2002, 07:23 AM
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I saw a PPW parked when I went to the Skinner YMCA by Southpoint. I think it was this last Monday or Wednesday around 6:30-7. Is the owner on this message board?
Btw, I'm leaving for the dealer now, to try to learn a stick shift, and then buy the car. My wife is not particularly thrilled with the idea, even though she had a stick about 10 years back. I guess the clutch is the first thing I'll wear out. How much is it to replace a clutch?
Man, I am so pumped to drive the stick shift, but scared too. Reminds me of the first time I got on the road by myself in my first 85 ford mustang.
Wish me luck.
Btw, I'm leaving for the dealer now, to try to learn a stick shift, and then buy the car. My wife is not particularly thrilled with the idea, even though she had a stick about 10 years back. I guess the clutch is the first thing I'll wear out. How much is it to replace a clutch?
Man, I am so pumped to drive the stick shift, but scared too. Reminds me of the first time I got on the road by myself in my first 85 ford mustang.
Wish me luck.
10-19-2002, 03:11 PM
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OK. It's safe in the garage. It took me exactly 20 minutes to get the hang of driving a stick. You guys are right. It is a blast, and so much more involved than an auto. The salesman taught me on the tarmac of Palatka airport (not much of an airport, more like a strip). I stalled a few times on 1st, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. But once I get thru first, it is a breeze. I have the rev limiter set to 4000, till I get the hang of it. Then I'll go up in 500 rpm increments.
So anyway, from Palatka, my friend and I got onto 95, and drove back to Jax, came home to show it to my wife, and then went over to a friends place, to gloat over it. My friend was having a party for his co-workers, and all of them came out and ooohhh'ed and aaahhh'ed over it.
Thanks guys for all the encouragement for learning a stick. I will post pictures tomorrow, because it's already 7 here in Jax, and it's getting dark.
God....I can't stop smiling.
So anyway, from Palatka, my friend and I got onto 95, and drove back to Jax, came home to show it to my wife, and then went over to a friends place, to gloat over it. My friend was having a party for his co-workers, and all of them came out and ooohhh'ed and aaahhh'ed over it.
Thanks guys for all the encouragement for learning a stick. I will post pictures tomorrow, because it's already 7 here in Jax, and it's getting dark.
God....I can't stop smiling.
10-19-2002, 03:15 PM
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Oh and I forgot to mention...it's a Touring chrome silver with charcoal interior. It is stunning. I was thinking of getting the aero package, but I think it looks beautiful the way it is. I love the 18" wheels.
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SquareOne at San Marco is having their anniversary party this coming Wednesday eve. My friends and I will be there. Ask Amy the waitress, or Rabi the bar manager for Koushik or Duane. She will find me (I'm Koushik). And I'll leave my car parked at the Bank across the street. And all drinks are free that night. Must remember not to drink too much though.