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Old 09-09-2004, 02:32 PM
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when I first got my Z I shifted all gears in order - then after a while discovered I could shift from 3rd to 5th gear without any problems ( then 6 at higher speeds ). I have most recently became adapt at shiftin 1 , 3 and then 5 - seems to go very smooth if done at the correct speed (which isnt to critical it seems). This is on pretty level pavement ( not hills at least ).
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Old 09-09-2004, 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by AZZGUY
when I first got my Z I shifted all gears in order - then after a while discovered I could shift from 3rd to 5th gear without any problems ( then 6 at higher speeds ). I have most recently became adapt at shiftin 1 , 3 and then 5 - seems to go very smooth if done at the correct speed (which isnt to critical it seems). This is on pretty level pavement ( not hills at least ).
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I blame the inefficiencies inherently present in a socialized economy!!!!

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Old 09-09-2004, 03:06 PM
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Maybe it is Kerry's example of skipping around on issues!

(Sorry, couldn't resist based on where it was posted. Moved from politics forum to general )
Old 09-09-2004, 03:41 PM
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Old 09-09-2004, 06:01 PM
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hmm.
This topic is interesting. 1, 3, 5 then 6. Sounds fun. Are You experiencing lots of tourqe while doing this? How does it effect your RPM?
Old 09-09-2004, 06:06 PM
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IIRC older Corvettes or Camaros had this 'feature.' It is to increase fuel efficiency. I do this on my car for the hell of it sometimes. You are shifting into a higher gear at lower speeds so your car will have decreased power if you skip gears. It keeps the RPMs lower hence better mpg.
Old 09-10-2004, 11:21 AM
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if you acclerate to the top of 1st gear but dont want to acclerate as fast... shift into 3rd and then 4th and coast...

if you were shifting into a gear at an RPM that was too low for the gear like 1st to 5th, that is bad...
Old 09-10-2004, 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
if you were shifting into a gear at an RPM that was too low for the gear like 1st to 5th, that is bad...
How is this bad?
Old 09-10-2004, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by Big Sexz
How is this bad?
is bad because ur RPM is too low, it might cost your car to stall. after u shift into 5th from low RPM 1st, the rpm will drop like he11.
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not to mention your car is making almost no power below 1krpm...
Old 09-10-2004, 12:33 PM
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i do 1,2,4 alot ... especially for driving around the neighborhood or side streets.
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Performance wise, I agree it is pointless but I was thinking you meant bad for the motor.
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Originally posted by Big Sexz
Performance wise, I agree it is pointless but I was thinking you meant bad for the motor.
I've heard/read it is bad to "bog" your motor. You are forcing drivetrain internals to move gears at speeds they were never meant to operate at. To do this though you would have to skip more than one gear and/or do so at low rpm.

That being said, the low-end torque combined with the close 1-5 ratios of the Z makes skipping shifts at high rpm very safe and doable.

my 2 cents.
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Originally posted by Spoon_sports808
hmm.
This topic is interesting. 1, 3, 5 then 6. Sounds fun. Are You experiencing lots of tourqe while doing this? How does it effect your RPM?
Yes, lots of torque! Dont watch rpm too much - but never get above 4000 - probably mostly high is 3500. It does get out and move and shifts quite smooth!
Old 09-11-2004, 06:43 AM
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i shift 1 2 3 4 5 6 because that is why you have a 6spd not and 1 3 5 6 speed
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Originally posted by Shift_Daytona Z
i shift 1 2 3 4 5 6 because that is why you have a 6spd not and 1 3 5 6 speed
Really?? How did you figure that out ???
Old 09-12-2004, 11:44 PM
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If you dont want to shift right then you should of bought a auto.
Old 09-13-2004, 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by the7ferret
If you dont want to shift right then you should of bought a auto.
What exactly does that mean? There is nothing wrong with 1-3-5 shifts unless you don't know what you are doing.

I've done experiments and my MPGs go up by about 2mpg when I skipshift.

As an example - let's say you want to jackrabbit off the line, and you go:

1st to redline (31mph) - SHIFT
2nd to 6000 (55mph) - SHIFT
6th gear (2500 RPMs).

There is nothing wrong with that. Would you rather I shift

1st to redline (31mph)
2nd to 6000rpm (55mph)
3rd to 5000rpm (55mph)
4th to 4000rpm (55mph)
5th to 3000rpm (55mph)
6th to 2500rpm (55mph)

Is it necessary for me to push in my clutch that many times and shift that many times just to maintain speed and get into 6th gear?

You are telling me you've never cruised down the highway @ 80mph in 6th gear and then downshifted to 4th gear to pass someone? Or downshifted to 3rd gear at 62mph to pass someone?

As long as you know what you are doing in terms of the revs, that's the fastest way to accelerate.
Old 09-13-2004, 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by roydiculous
What exactly does that mean? There is nothing wrong with 1-3-5 shifts unless you don't know what you are doing.

I've done experiments and my MPGs go up by about 2mpg when I skipshift.

As an example - let's say you want to jackrabbit off the line, and you go:

1st to redline (31mph) - SHIFT
2nd to 6000 (55mph) - SHIFT
6th gear (2500 RPMs).

There is nothing wrong with that. Would you rather I shift

1st to redline (31mph)
2nd to 6000rpm (55mph)
3rd to 5000rpm (55mph)
4th to 4000rpm (55mph)
5th to 3000rpm (55mph)
6th to 2500rpm (55mph)

Is it necessary for me to push in my clutch that many times and shift that many times just to maintain speed and get into 6th gear?

You are telling me you've never cruised down the highway @ 80mph in 6th gear and then downshifted to 4th gear to pass someone? Or downshifted to 3rd gear at 62mph to pass someone?

As long as you know what you are doing in terms of the revs, that's the fastest way to accelerate.
It's not only the fastest - but it's the smoothest way to accelerate! Do it the EASY way!
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I sometimes skip a gear and i dont think it is bad at all.


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