as title questions.. when do you expect the 370Z (or the next gen Z car) to be revealed at the auto show? If i am not mistaken so far all the 370Z have been renderings only, and have not graced any auto shows yet?

i dont think it will be at the LA show this nov, as the GTR is making its North America debut, a new Z car will definitely take some of the spotlight away. maybe early 08? what are your toughts?

 

Well last LA auto show if im not mistaken. Nissan debuted both sentra se-r and altima coupe, although that might not be a good comparison of what you're talking about.

 

when it's finished and available.

 

Im thinking no earlier than Jan 08. NAIAS?

 

My guess is end of 08.

 

Nissan isn't going to let anything steal the GTR's thunder anytime soon. I would think late 2008 at the earliest - probably the Tokyo Auto Show again.



~KK

 

Last time i checked no one cared about the gtr. More people would rather see the new z.

 

lol. quite a few car about the GTR, but more probably care about the new Z. i guess reason being is the GTR is not very affordable to the public, whereas the Z coupe is much more affordable

 

09 should get the 3.7 L in the Z33....I really doubt Nissan will dump the Z33 just yet. Why make a car that encroaches on the performance of the GTR - they would have to make the cost encroach on it as well. It would be smarter to wait 2 more years, let the Z33 become "further outdated" while giving it enough power to compete (see 3.7L) and then revamp in in 2011 when the GTR is no longer a new model (also not an old one).

BMW does this, its smart, Porsche does to an extent as well. Let time pass so that people are excited..just not like GM with the camero, its going to fail on them.

 

very logically put... i dont think the 370z (or Z34) will come out before 2010. 2009 GTR will be released, so no chance will the new Z be out then. late 2010 perhaps, but realistically 2011 as you said.

i am somewhat confused if i should trade my 08 Lancer GTS next year for perhaps a 08 Z or possibly (if i can afford it, and if its out by then) a 09 Z. I am worried should I make this transition, only to have the next gen Z come out soon after and be stuck with an "older" model car if you know what i mean.

 

Thats another reason I want it to be a 2011 model change and not a 2009. My car is 8 months old...

Look at an E46 M3 in a year, the E92 should help smash its value down.

 

it's amazing how the z33 still holds up, still looks fantastic even though if they decide to hold it till next couple years which is very very long by automotive standards

 

definitely. in my opinion the Z is the best looking coupe for its price range.. really hardly anything competes with it. its been about 5 years and still looks sexy. i probably will get flamed for saying this but in terms of looks, i dont consider the GTR to be any more superior than the current Z.

 

Except you will have some very stiff $30k sporty car competition coming out in the next year or two and the Z needs to compete with them -- NOT the GT-R.

The GT-R is so far away financially, it isn't an issue.

Also, the GT-R is a great way to bring people into a dealership, but then try to sell them on the Z they can actually afford. If it is an older, outdated version, that sale will be more difficult.

Let's not forget, the Z is down 26.6% of sales (calendar year to date). (source)
It needs something to help boost sales again.

Sure, Nissan should wait a little to let the GT-R get all the attention, but the Z should be at least refreshed pretty quickly.

 

Stiff competion from other manufacturers like Hyundai (who will soon be offering the Genesis 300HP coupé), will hopefully force Nissan to update the engine with either the 3.7 or even a Super Charger.


http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/av...sis_Coupe.aspx

 

lol i have my doubts over a hyundai sports coupe...

btw off topic a little.. but someone placed an order for the GTR in canada (toronto) and apparently its about 120k. the US base price 69k was more than i could afford... 120k is impossible. sigh i will wait for the next Z...

 

I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of a true Hyundai "Sports-car", but I can't argue with what they're offering.

Rear-wheel drive 300 HP. The styling works (for me, anyway).

I just wonder if the real components (brakes, suspension, transmission etc.) will be up to standard. I'm skeptical on those details, but I'll try to keep an open mind. There's not a lot to choose from in terms of rear-wheel drive coupes right now, so I'm at least glad there's another player coming to market.

 

Hyundai has a very competitive heavy industry division. They make the worlds best ships, machines, etc. Therefore, they are equipping their factories very well and not skimping on making parts for their cars.

7 or 8 years ago I saw a business model for Hyundai to try to climb the ranks, and entering the "sporty" market was like step 3 of 8. First was establish, then broaden, then become sporty, then refined...etc.

I doubt they will build a bad car, it may very well outdo the Z if they throw the V8 in...

 

It'll be interesting to see.

I'm showing my age a bit here, but I drove a Hyundai . . . roughly 20 years ago and it was a frighteningly bad car. On paper, it looked comparable to a couple other cars I drove that day (Honda Civic and Mazda 323), but it felt terrible. By the time I got it into 2nd gear, I was sure I wouldn't buy that car.

But clearly they have made HUGE gains since then. I know at least 3 different people who own Hyundais and absolutely love them.

But when I see this car, that looks so good on paper and looks so reasonably priced, I find it hard not to wonder if the driving experience just won't have that intangible something that a car like the Z does.

I'm in an interesting position. Unlike most of the people on this forum, I don't yet own a Z. I'm just considering it and educating myself and planning on buying something fun in the not-to-distant future. I may have a chance to drive both cars back to back and make a real unbiased judgement as to how they stack up. I honestly can't imagine the Hyundai matching the Z, but I'll try to keep an open mind if I get that opportunity.

 

Buy a Stripped Vette a year old with the LS3 - its going to be the best value at the moment...