Will the 370Z be offered with auto trans only?
07-22-2008, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Faboo
Imaging ur racing some guy and its dead even.... u see him snapping off his shifts moving around in his seat using both feet and hands...and there u are stomping the gas only and using a finger or two to upshift..... ur 
either way
either way
07-22-2008, 06:23 AM
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1. FLAWLESS reliability history.
2. City traffic.
3. Freeway jams due to accidents, etc.
4. Only 1 MPG less than MT.
5. Consistently, when they're pit against each other, the AT Zed beats the MT one!!!
6. Torque for the AT Zed: 274ft-lbs.
7. Torque for the MT Zed: 260ft-lbs.
(I'm still looking for more reasons! Actually, the only reason to prefer an MT over an auto tranny is what I call "Sports Car Feel". Otherwise, it's all a cosmetic thingy!!!)
2. City traffic.
3. Freeway jams due to accidents, etc.
4. Only 1 MPG less than MT.
5. Consistently, when they're pit against each other, the AT Zed beats the MT one!!!
6. Torque for the AT Zed: 274ft-lbs.
7. Torque for the MT Zed: 260ft-lbs.
(I'm still looking for more reasons! Actually, the only reason to prefer an MT over an auto tranny is what I call "Sports Car Feel". Otherwise, it's all a cosmetic thingy!!!)
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07-22-2008, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo
1. FLAWLESS reliability history.
2. City traffic.
3. Freeway jams due to accidents, etc.
4. Only 1 MPG less than MT.
2. City traffic.
3. Freeway jams due to accidents, etc.
4. Only 1 MPG less than MT.
07-22-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zquicksilver
hmmm, i look at it this way... are you a on top or on bottom type of guy!?
pick one, there lies(lol) the answer to your transmission choice
Zquicksilver (6MT)
pick one, there lies(lol) the answer to your transmission choice
Zquicksilver (6MT)
07-23-2008, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo
1. FLAWLESS reliability history.
6. Torque for the AT Zed: 274ft-lbs.
7. Torque for the MT Zed: 260ft-lbs.
6. Torque for the AT Zed: 274ft-lbs.
7. Torque for the MT Zed: 260ft-lbs.
274 lbs.-ft... I know 06's are the numbers you stated.
07-23-2008, 07:56 AM
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They should just make a trim that only comes in 6 speed. Like how subie's have the wrx for at/manual then the sti is all 6 speed. 
Maybe have the trim with a smaller twin turbo( compared to ones on the gtr)
or something
Maybe have the trim with a smaller twin turbo( compared to ones on the gtr) or something
07-23-2008, 08:12 PM
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No 6MT on a sports car = FAIL.
07-23-2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by robertinmesa
how many formula race cars come with a 6MT? or manual anything? The newer autos are capable of shifting faster than humans....and with the ability to pick a gear and stay there, when desired, it seems that the GTR's tranny is nothing more than natural selection/evolution of its species.
07-24-2008, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ufraag
So would you pick a 6MT over an auto even if the 6MT gives you slow times?
I think not.
I think not.
07-24-2008, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fordmandan
I understand the pros and cons of both types of transmissions, but
I'm a fan of manual transmissions in performance cars. While I'm sure the dual clutch auto trans in the GT-R is really great, I'd be disappointed if they didn't offer a 6 speed manual in the 370Z.
What do you guys think Nissan will do? Remember, they only offer an Automatic in their flagship sports car (GT-R) and now the 370Z may receive that transmission too. Will they scrap the manual trans in the new Z?
-dan
I'm a fan of manual transmissions in performance cars. While I'm sure the dual clutch auto trans in the GT-R is really great, I'd be disappointed if they didn't offer a 6 speed manual in the 370Z.
What do you guys think Nissan will do? Remember, they only offer an Automatic in their flagship sports car (GT-R) and now the 370Z may receive that transmission too. Will they scrap the manual trans in the new Z?
-dan
who cares. it is a Z. get over it
07-24-2008, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Faboo
yea...that will be a good day....when its traditional manuals..and automated manuals only....no more torque converter auto's
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07-24-2008, 06:53 AM
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I do think it's funny that the claim by "manual only" guys used to be better control and performance. Now that the dual-clutch manual transmissions are here, they've reverted to the clutch is more fun and it's the man pedal.
I agree that clutching and rowing through the gears manually is fun, but I think a lot of these manual only folks have some kind of macho superiority complex.
Technology has now advanced us past the manual transmission. While some may prefer a traditional manual for fun purposes, the dual-clutch transmissions are not only more convenient, they are a shitload of fun, and they are much better for performance.
I agree that clutching and rowing through the gears manually is fun, but I think a lot of these manual only folks have some kind of macho superiority complex.
Technology has now advanced us past the manual transmission. While some may prefer a traditional manual for fun purposes, the dual-clutch transmissions are not only more convenient, they are a shitload of fun, and they are much better for performance.
07-24-2008, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo
1. FLAWLESS reliability history. - I havent seen anything that tells me a clutch is not reliable
2. City traffic. - This is not fact but opinion. I personally have zero problems having a MT in heavy traffic
3. Freeway jams due to accidents, etc. - See #2
4. Only 1 MPG less than MT. - Better MPG for MT is pretty typical
5. Consistently, when they're pit against each other, the AT Zed beats the MT one!!! - Funny... I have always seen a MT post faster times than a AT in most cars, and the stock times for the current Z's show a faster time going to the MT
6. Torque for the AT Zed: 274ft-lbs. - HP/TQ for the AT Zed: 306/268
7. Torque for the MT Zed: 260ft-lbs. - HP/TQ for the MT Zed: 306/268
(I'm still looking for more reasons! Actually, the only reason to prefer an MT over an auto tranny is what I call "Sports Car Feel". Otherwise, it's all a cosmetic thingy!!!)
2. City traffic. - This is not fact but opinion. I personally have zero problems having a MT in heavy traffic
3. Freeway jams due to accidents, etc. - See #2
4. Only 1 MPG less than MT. - Better MPG for MT is pretty typical
5. Consistently, when they're pit against each other, the AT Zed beats the MT one!!! - Funny... I have always seen a MT post faster times than a AT in most cars, and the stock times for the current Z's show a faster time going to the MT
6. Torque for the AT Zed: 274ft-lbs. - HP/TQ for the AT Zed: 306/268
7. Torque for the MT Zed: 260ft-lbs. - HP/TQ for the MT Zed: 306/268
(I'm still looking for more reasons! Actually, the only reason to prefer an MT over an auto tranny is what I call "Sports Car Feel". Otherwise, it's all a cosmetic thingy!!!)
Hope this helps
07-24-2008, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by triso07
I do think it's funny that the claim by "manual only" guys used to be better control and performance. Now that the dual-clutch manual transmissions are here, they've reverted to the clutch is more fun and it's the man pedal.
I agree that clutching and rowing through the gears manually is fun, but I think a lot of these manual only folks have some kind of macho superiority complex.
Technology has now advanced us past the manual transmission. While some may prefer a traditional manual for fun purposes, the dual-clutch transmissions are not only more convenient, they are a shitload of fun, and they are much better for performance.
I agree that clutching and rowing through the gears manually is fun, but I think a lot of these manual only folks have some kind of macho superiority complex.
Technology has now advanced us past the manual transmission. While some may prefer a traditional manual for fun purposes, the dual-clutch transmissions are not only more convenient, they are a shitload of fun, and they are much better for performance.
Added cost... Both purchase and or after warranty maintance...Dont forget some people may be unwilling or unable to fit it in their budget..For example the E92M3's DCT is a $2800 option.. MT's for the most part are standard no cost options..
Maintance..DSG needs more detailed and possibly costly (again after warranty)servicing, than a traditional manual. Harder for the DYI'er in other words..
So not all manual fans are ego maniacs