Just read the good news in R&T.
09-28-2008, 02:47 PM
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Proves your point how? They are still way down the list. They do not pass any of the rivals from Japan. There quality is still crap compared to reliable cars.
Nissan has gone down in quality and I don't consider them to be that high of quality anymore.
But again, you have yet to prove anything on what you said as a fact. I just proved you wrong about you saying American cars are better than Japan cars.
And this is INITIAL quality, it is not long term which again japan blow away the american vehicles.
Nissan has gone down in quality and I don't consider them to be that high of quality anymore.
But again, you have yet to prove anything on what you said as a fact. I just proved you wrong about you saying American cars are better than Japan cars.
And this is INITIAL quality, it is not long term which again japan blow away the american vehicles.
09-28-2008, 02:50 PM
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Sentiment of U.S. car quality goes negative
Posted Aug 19th 2008 10:06AM by Douglas McIntyre
Filed under: Bad news, Industry, Consumer experience, Competitive strategy, Ford Motor (F), General Motors (GM), Toyota Motor Corp. (TM)
One of the few hopes the U.S. car companies have had is that they have been perceived as closing the quality gap with Japanese models. Recent JP Power data shows Detroit running in a dead heat with imports in the consumer satisfaction race.
That bubble has been at least partially burst due to new information from the University of Michigan's American Customer Satisfaction Index. According to the AP, "U.S. car buyers are growing less satisfied with their purchases from domestic automakers while their Asian and European competitors continue to improve."
In the new survey, BMW and Lexus tied for the top spot followed by Honda (NYSE: HMC) and Toyota (NYSE: TM). Several brands from GM (NYSE: GM) and Ford (NYSE: F) dropped down the rankings.
At the risk of stating the obvious, Detroit is in such deep trouble that a perceived drop in the quality of its cars can only make its recovery more difficult. There are several ways around that, but none of them are very palatable.
GM yesterday introduced buyer incentives across most of its brands. That means its margins on those vehicles will be lower. It may pick up some market share, but any victory there will be costly. The U.S. car companies are cutting their marketing budgets, so they cannot "advertise" their way out of the problem.
Effectively giving cars away can certainly help hurdle the quality barrier, but losing a lot more money could sink a large U.S. auto company.
Posted Aug 19th 2008 10:06AM by Douglas McIntyre
Filed under: Bad news, Industry, Consumer experience, Competitive strategy, Ford Motor (F), General Motors (GM), Toyota Motor Corp. (TM)
One of the few hopes the U.S. car companies have had is that they have been perceived as closing the quality gap with Japanese models. Recent JP Power data shows Detroit running in a dead heat with imports in the consumer satisfaction race.
That bubble has been at least partially burst due to new information from the University of Michigan's American Customer Satisfaction Index. According to the AP, "U.S. car buyers are growing less satisfied with their purchases from domestic automakers while their Asian and European competitors continue to improve."
In the new survey, BMW and Lexus tied for the top spot followed by Honda (NYSE: HMC) and Toyota (NYSE: TM). Several brands from GM (NYSE: GM) and Ford (NYSE: F) dropped down the rankings.
At the risk of stating the obvious, Detroit is in such deep trouble that a perceived drop in the quality of its cars can only make its recovery more difficult. There are several ways around that, but none of them are very palatable.
GM yesterday introduced buyer incentives across most of its brands. That means its margins on those vehicles will be lower. It may pick up some market share, but any victory there will be costly. The U.S. car companies are cutting their marketing budgets, so they cannot "advertise" their way out of the problem.
Effectively giving cars away can certainly help hurdle the quality barrier, but losing a lot more money could sink a large U.S. auto company.
09-28-2008, 05:36 PM
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Kinyu, a word of friendly advice: don't waste anymore of your time arguing with this knucklehead. It's like trying to reason with Kanye West. There is no opinion except his.
09-28-2008, 06:34 PM
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09-28-2008, 06:51 PM
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Let's see.....I've owned two 350Z's and I currently only frequent the 370Z forum....a car which nobody has yet. If you check my recent posts, which I'm sure you've already done since you have no life, you'll see that (unlike you) I've actually contributed a few photoshops. What do you ever add here other than overbearing (and always wrong) opinions?
09-28-2008, 08:05 PM
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why do 75% of members act like pubescent f*cking 13 year olds? grow up.
it seems like the Z community is quickly turning into what are civic forums, which is why i barely coming onto this forum anymore. its sad, really.
it seems like the Z community is quickly turning into what are civic forums, which is why i barely coming onto this forum anymore. its sad, really.
09-29-2008, 05:04 AM
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+1 I have so much posters on my Ignore list, that when I click on some threads I sometimes get almost entire pages with...
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Stop it. All 5 of your posts so far have been this same worthless 'bump' crap in different threads.
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