Nissan 450Z?
#1
Nissan 450Z?
Don't know if this is a repost or not, but I just found this on Left Lane News:
"The 370Z is expected to use the same VQ37VHR powerplant found in the Infiniti G37 — a V6 displacing 3.7-liter — delivering at least 330 horsepower. Recent rumors indicate a 4.5-liter V8 might also be offered. According to Japan’s Best Car, Nissan’s Chief of Production confirmed a bent eight was a distinct possibility. "
I'm thinking 400-420 bhp stock, and a wicked TT platform.
'Los
"The 370Z is expected to use the same VQ37VHR powerplant found in the Infiniti G37 — a V6 displacing 3.7-liter — delivering at least 330 horsepower. Recent rumors indicate a 4.5-liter V8 might also be offered. According to Japan’s Best Car, Nissan’s Chief of Production confirmed a bent eight was a distinct possibility. "
I'm thinking 400-420 bhp stock, and a wicked TT platform.
'Los
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Like I said I don't know if it's a repost or not. BTW... I've been a member at MyG37 and G35Driver since November 2003, I've just recently decided to grace you with my presence.
And exactly what is wrong with posting about a possible V8 in a Z car? I understand the Nissan V6s are great motors. I currently own a 2006 G35 sedan and a 2008 G37 coupe. Even the SR20DE 4 banger in my old 1993 NX2000 was a great motor. But I also understand that squeezing a 4.5L V8 into the Z would take this car to a new level of stock performance that hasn't been seen in a Z, yet.
'Los
And exactly what is wrong with posting about a possible V8 in a Z car? I understand the Nissan V6s are great motors. I currently own a 2006 G35 sedan and a 2008 G37 coupe. Even the SR20DE 4 banger in my old 1993 NX2000 was a great motor. But I also understand that squeezing a 4.5L V8 into the Z would take this car to a new level of stock performance that hasn't been seen in a Z, yet.
'Los
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#15
I really don't think so for a few reasons:
1) There would be no turbos (cheaper)
2) Rear wheel drive (cheaper)
3) Not as many technological advances incorporated into the Z (cheaper)
4) The 4.5L V8 is already being mass produced for Nissan/Infiniti (cheaper)
I agree, straight line performance would be close, but only close. Not matching in any way. Overall track performance would be nowhere near GT-R territory.
I think a 450Z would fill in the gap between a $28,000 350Z and a $72,000 GT-R very nicely.
'Los
1) There would be no turbos (cheaper)
2) Rear wheel drive (cheaper)
3) Not as many technological advances incorporated into the Z (cheaper)
4) The 4.5L V8 is already being mass produced for Nissan/Infiniti (cheaper)
I agree, straight line performance would be close, but only close. Not matching in any way. Overall track performance would be nowhere near GT-R territory.
I think a 450Z would fill in the gap between a $28,000 350Z and a $72,000 GT-R very nicely.
'Los
#16
Nothing wrong with posting this info, it is just that it has been beat to deathe severl thousand times.
No 8 in the Z anytime soon. I would much rather have the Z remain a high strung 6. The HP wars are coming to and end, and with local law enforcement patrolling the way they do now, having 300 HP in 3000-3200 pound car is excessive.
No 8 in the Z anytime soon. I would much rather have the Z remain a high strung 6. The HP wars are coming to and end, and with local law enforcement patrolling the way they do now, having 300 HP in 3000-3200 pound car is excessive.
#17
Just another thought. If Nissan has released the GT-R, and is already developing a higher performance Spec V version, why not expect the same of the Z?
And I still think it makes sense for Nissan to place this car somewhere between the 370Z and the GT-R pricing. That's a really big gap that Nissan has yet to address and profit from. Figure a $40-42,000 450Z could then compete with base model Corvettes, and others in the class.
The horsepower wars are far from over, regardless of gas prices. Nissan isn't increasing displacement and power output just for fun. They're competing for business, and in this segment power output is a big selling point.
'Los
And I still think it makes sense for Nissan to place this car somewhere between the 370Z and the GT-R pricing. That's a really big gap that Nissan has yet to address and profit from. Figure a $40-42,000 450Z could then compete with base model Corvettes, and others in the class.
The horsepower wars are far from over, regardless of gas prices. Nissan isn't increasing displacement and power output just for fun. They're competing for business, and in this segment power output is a big selling point.
'Los
#18
A 450Z makes no sense to anyone with half a brain. Think about it.
The 4.5L V8 is about to be phased out. Not counting the JDM only Cima (Q45) which is long overdue for a replacement, the only car in Nissan's lineup that currently uses this motor is the M45/Fuga. The 4.5L is about to be retired from Nissan/Infiniti's NA lineup when the M is replaced for 2010. It's already disappeared from the FX line with the recent introduction of the FX50. Why would Nissan drop yesterday's motor into tomorrow's sports car? It makes no sense. They'd be forced to go with the VK50VE if they wanted to build a V8 Z but IMO 390hp brings it much too close to the GT-R.
If anything, true sports car enthusiasts and fans of the Z have been saying for a few years that what the Z really needs is to go on a diet. Nissan is supposedly already addressing this issue by shaving some weight from the new car. If they want to build a Z34 NISMO or some new "higher performance" model, strip this sucker out and bring down the curb weight. Throwing two more cylinders at the car won't help weight distribution, packaging or (I can't believe I'm saying this) fuel economy. If we see a hardcore Z, my guess is it'll be a sort of stripped out Clubsort model devoid of any shoo shoo bird gadgets with only the essentials making the equipment list. THAT would be the way to go. Save the V8 for the M and the FX, or if Nissan ever gets around to it, a G50R.
The 4.5L V8 is about to be phased out. Not counting the JDM only Cima (Q45) which is long overdue for a replacement, the only car in Nissan's lineup that currently uses this motor is the M45/Fuga. The 4.5L is about to be retired from Nissan/Infiniti's NA lineup when the M is replaced for 2010. It's already disappeared from the FX line with the recent introduction of the FX50. Why would Nissan drop yesterday's motor into tomorrow's sports car? It makes no sense. They'd be forced to go with the VK50VE if they wanted to build a V8 Z but IMO 390hp brings it much too close to the GT-R.
If anything, true sports car enthusiasts and fans of the Z have been saying for a few years that what the Z really needs is to go on a diet. Nissan is supposedly already addressing this issue by shaving some weight from the new car. If they want to build a Z34 NISMO or some new "higher performance" model, strip this sucker out and bring down the curb weight. Throwing two more cylinders at the car won't help weight distribution, packaging or (I can't believe I'm saying this) fuel economy. If we see a hardcore Z, my guess is it'll be a sort of stripped out Clubsort model devoid of any shoo shoo bird gadgets with only the essentials making the equipment list. THAT would be the way to go. Save the V8 for the M and the FX, or if Nissan ever gets around to it, a G50R.
#19
I personally think they will go turbo before they go V8. If they wanted V8 power they would have done it with the GTR. If Nissan does ever step up and give us what most of us have been asking for since the last 300zxTT ended it will be in the form of turbos and not a V8.