Edmunds 370Z Review
11-25-2008, 03:46 PM
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ahhh, and finally the rigidity question is answered:
The Nissan engineers have also been more mindful of structural rigidity than before. There's a new front suspension cradle, a V-shape bar under the body and detailed structural enhancements to the rear of the car. As a result, the front torsional rigidity has been improved by 30 percent, the rear torsional rigidity has gone up by 22 percent and the bending rigidity has gone up 30 percent.
The Nissan engineers have also been more mindful of structural rigidity than before. There's a new front suspension cradle, a V-shape bar under the body and detailed structural enhancements to the rear of the car. As a result, the front torsional rigidity has been improved by 30 percent, the rear torsional rigidity has gone up by 22 percent and the bending rigidity has gone up 30 percent.
11-25-2008, 04:09 PM
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Not what I wanted to hear but its still not too bad. Will wait for owners and the other mags to weigh in before I cast judgement. Just as an aside, these acceleration numbers are slower than the G37 sedan automatic that was tested if memory serves. It of course wasnt same day etc but I just feel the 370z numbers will get appreciably better as more test are done...Wait and see for me..
11-25-2008, 04:15 PM
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You fail, the article specifically say 4.9 seconds with a 1' rollout. Every magazine uses the 1' rollout, at least all the big ones do. Thus, for magazine bragging rights this car is a 4.9 second car so far. Edmunds also is never the fastest of the bunch. Typically C&D and Motortrend yank out the best times. I see 4.8s being a frequent 0-60 with perhaps a mind blowing 4.7 at some point, but who knows even 4.6 is possible with the rollout.
The 104.8 mph 1/4 mile is less enticing as i believe the G37 Sedan hit 105+, so I'd expect better numbers out of that down the road.
The 104.8 mph 1/4 mile is less enticing as i believe the G37 Sedan hit 105+, so I'd expect better numbers out of that down the road.
11-25-2008, 04:20 PM
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Not what I wanted to hear but its still not too bad. Will wait for owners and the other mags to weigh in before I cast judgement. Just as an aside, these acceleration numbers are slower than the G37 sedan automatic that was tested if memory serves. It of course wasnt same day etc but I just feel the 370z numbers will get appreciably better as more test are done...Wait and see for me..
Thus, comparing the 7AT G35 sedan to this 6MT is probably as large of a difference than the power/weight difference between the two vehicles. When you get into sub 5 second 0-60 times, it becomes much harder to evaluate performance especially when there's only 1 test of each platform.
11-25-2008, 04:26 PM
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I don't know where they got the 3,359lbs curb weight. I have the final specs from Nissan, stating the 6speed manual is 3,232. I can't see sports package will add an additional 137lbs. Where did this extra 137lbs come from? It can't be from bigger brakes and pistons with the Rays wheels. Something is not right. Also, curb weight is defined as all fluids filled with a full tank of gas without any passengers.
I agree with others, Edmunds' numbers are known to be slower.
One thing I don't like, it says "....Instruments strike a blow for legibility, including zippy multifunction display (left); despite pronounced hoods, instrument lights reflect in the windshield at night...."
Guess I will have to drive it at night and see how bad it is
I agree with others, Edmunds' numbers are known to be slower.
One thing I don't like, it says "....Instruments strike a blow for legibility, including zippy multifunction display (left); despite pronounced hoods, instrument lights reflect in the windshield at night...."
Guess I will have to drive it at night and see how bad it is
11-25-2008, 06:00 PM
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I just watched the thing and then I searched their archives for a 2007 Nismo 350z, they did the same tests on it (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121814). Here are the numbers:
0-60:
2009 370z: 5.1 sec
2007 Nismo 350z: 5.1 sec
Slalom:
2009 370z: 69.8mph
2007 Nismo 350z: 71.0mph
Lateral g:
2009 370z: 0.97g
2007 Nismo 350z: 0.91g
1/4 Mile:
2009 370z: 13.4 @ 104.6mph
2007 Nismo 350z: 13.6 @ 103mph
Braking:
2009 370z: 101 feet
2007 Nismo 350z: 109 feet
How does a 350z Nismo pulled a faster slalom than a 370z??? On paper, it doesn't look like a much improved performance despite all the hype. But am I not being fair comparing a non-Nismo to a Nismo?
0-60:
2009 370z: 5.1 sec
2007 Nismo 350z: 5.1 sec
Slalom:
2009 370z: 69.8mph
2007 Nismo 350z: 71.0mph
Lateral g:
2009 370z: 0.97g
2007 Nismo 350z: 0.91g
1/4 Mile:
2009 370z: 13.4 @ 104.6mph
2007 Nismo 350z: 13.6 @ 103mph
Braking:
2009 370z: 101 feet
2007 Nismo 350z: 109 feet
How does a 350z Nismo pulled a faster slalom than a 370z??? On paper, it doesn't look like a much improved performance despite all the hype. But am I not being fair comparing a non-Nismo to a Nismo?
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11-25-2008, 06:16 PM
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LOL @ all the bench racers who fail to comprehend such numbers.
As far as the 3350 lbs, ofcourse its going to weight more than the manufacture stated weight since it will have more variables added to it (more fluids, other misc things). People just fail to understand how to use manufacture stated weight as opposed to the numbers that come out of an independent test. As you can see from their tests, it still weighs 95 lbs LESS than the 08's.
As far as the 3350 lbs, ofcourse its going to weight more than the manufacture stated weight since it will have more variables added to it (more fluids, other misc things). People just fail to understand how to use manufacture stated weight as opposed to the numbers that come out of an independent test. As you can see from their tests, it still weighs 95 lbs LESS than the 08's.
So, if Edmunds did indeed weigh this base car themselves, and got a 3350lb figure (as opposed to Nissan's 3250 claim)...I can't imagine what the Touring 370Z actually weighs. But I doubt they did weigh the car, it seems like Edmunds has confused the weight of the Base and Touring car.
Edit: Just saw Motor Trend's review of their Touring 370Z. Yep, I was right, Edmunds has the wrong weight listed for their base. The base 370Z weighs just about the same as the average Touring 350Z. The 370Z weighs MORE.
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11-25-2008, 06:27 PM
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WHAT?!
What happened to the 3,000 pound curb weight??
Lol. I am going to be honest, I thought the new Z would really be badass but I am disappointed. I guess my expectations were too high..
Well at least the 370Z won't be much faster than the HR's..
What happened to the 3,000 pound curb weight??
Lol. I am going to be honest, I thought the new Z would really be badass but I am disappointed. I guess my expectations were too high..
Well at least the 370Z won't be much faster than the HR's..
11-25-2008, 07:34 PM
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I'll wait for the independent quarter miles times, I can see this thing running 13 flat. Anything lower and I might be too optimistic..
The point that I was surprised at was the fact that this thing only weighs 95lbs less than an HR. What happend to 3,000lb curb weight?!
I was hoping this thing would handle like my brother's RX8, but I guess I was expecting too much..
11-25-2008, 07:56 PM
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Well it better since it has a 3.7 liter and about 100lbs less!
I'll wait for the independent quarter miles times, I can see this thing running 13 flat. Anything lower and I might be too optimistic..
The point that I was surprised at was the fact that this thing only weighs 95lbs less than an HR. What happend to 3,000lb curb weight?!
I was hoping this thing would handle like my brother's RX8, but I guess I was expecting too much..
I'll wait for the independent quarter miles times, I can see this thing running 13 flat. Anything lower and I might be too optimistic..
The point that I was surprised at was the fact that this thing only weighs 95lbs less than an HR. What happend to 3,000lb curb weight?!
I was hoping this thing would handle like my brother's RX8, but I guess I was expecting too much..
11-25-2008, 08:19 PM
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I can tell you first-hand that the 350Z does NOT handle like an RX8. Why? Because I have driven both cars on a daily basis. The RX8 is wonderful on farm roads, it's steering wheel is so light compared to the Z. It's 50/50 weight distribution is heaven. It makes the Z feel like a pig. There is no way you can say the Z handles like the 8, if you do say that then you are a Z nuthugger..
As for the 370Z I am unsure. But I am willing to bet (b/c of 3300 lbs curb weight) that it will NOT handle like an RX8..
11-25-2008, 08:29 PM
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Edmunds does get slower times... they admit that they do not abuse a car to get their times.. they use realistic driving practices.
No over-revving the engine, no clutch-dumps, etc...
No over-revving the engine, no clutch-dumps, etc...
11-25-2008, 08:32 PM
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I just watched the thing and then I searched their archives for a 2007 Nismo 350z, they did the same tests on it (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121814). Here are the numbers:
0-60:
2009 370z: 4.9 sec
2007 Nismo 350z: 5.1 sec
0-60:
2009 370z: 4.9 sec
2007 Nismo 350z: 5.1 sec
Just to be consistent Edmunds more than likely used their roll out method for the Nismo so best to compare it to the roll out 370 time. They started utilizing both methods after that article was published.
The best thing about Edmunds is that I can usually reproduce their claims.
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11-25-2008, 08:40 PM
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Well it better since it has a 3.7 liter and about 100lbs less!
I'll wait for the independent quarter miles times, I can see this thing running 13 flat. Anything lower and I might be too optimistic..
The point that I was surprised at was the fact that this thing only weighs 95lbs less than an HR. What happend to 3,000lb curb weight?!
I was hoping this thing would handle like my brother's RX8, but I guess I was expecting too much..
I'll wait for the independent quarter miles times, I can see this thing running 13 flat. Anything lower and I might be too optimistic..
The point that I was surprised at was the fact that this thing only weighs 95lbs less than an HR. What happend to 3,000lb curb weight?!
I was hoping this thing would handle like my brother's RX8, but I guess I was expecting too much..
The net weight reduction, according to Nissan, is around 88 pounds, depending on trim, although our scales indicate the 370Z with the optional Sport Package (viscous limited-slip differential, 19-inch forged Rays wheels, Bridgestone tires, Akebono brakes, SynchroRev Match, front and rear spoilers, 0.29 Cd) weighs 12 pounds more than the Nismo 350Z.
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