These threads never go any where but into a battle of stupidity, auto/manual just a matter of preference. Each person has his or her reasons/parameters on why they want either and neither is right or wrong!

 

What do you care? This is a forum, that's what it does; people talk about what they want, even sometimes pointless, it's called shooting the sh*t.

 

Silence is golden!

 

Is the manual in the Z the same exact one as the G37 coupe? I just got this month's issue of Automobile and they have the G37 coupe as one of their long term test cars. In the update (paraphrasing here) the manual 6 is a notchy POS. If they are the same I may reconsider the 7AT.

 

hahhahahah i know exactly what you mean man, and I concur with the clutch going away. Look at the top tier manufacturers, all the other cars follow in their steps.
Lambo, Porsche, Ferrari pretty soon won't even offer the traditional 6 speed. Imagine it this way, Manual = Steam engine in the early 1900's Auto = first internal combustion engine
When I drive my wifes slk 55 7speed AMG Speedshift I feel like I am the kid in back to the future. If 370z's 7 speed anything similar to mercedes's 7 speed amg tranny then I am down for the ride.
But I do admit I sometimes stomp on the imaginary clutch pedal if someone is looking at me accelerating or just to make my peenor bigger

 

According to who?

 

unless its a scuderia or an enzo... give me a manual.

 

putting the Viagra people out of business are you??? Nice work


Oops...haha...regarding post #40.

 

Not at all....it does'nt get hard it just gets bigger.

 

In 2008 automatics still sucks out of the corner. When people say some automatics are faster, it's usually in context like "racing straing line from the traffic light". I can't imagine automatic being faster on a track.

 

GTR doesn't have automatic. It has http://2009gtr.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-fix-nissan-gt-r-transmission.html
. It's a variation of manual transmission. Just more complex than usual, and computer does clutch (actually two!) for you. So using GTR example you actually prooved that manual is not going away.

There is a world of difference between mechanics of dual clatch manual


and automatic

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automa...ansmission.htm

 

Actually, all professional racing series use some kind of manual transmission. Including F1, of course. It's just some advanced technologies allow for a computer to operate the clutch for the driver. (paddles in F1).

In last years manufacturers start using the same looking paddles, or buttons, on automatic transmission. That's what all the triptroniks, tiptroniks and whatever else each manufacturer calls them are. So now people get very confused about what's paddles are. Because they can be connected to DSG kind manual transmission (BMW M3,GTR) or they can be connected to slow, lazu manual transmission. There is a world of difference between two.

The former can be and is used in racing and the latter is just for a street racing wannabis, who want look cool but too .... let's say lazy to operate manual, and too poor to buy DSG. There is absolutely no reason to have or use paddles on automatic transmission (well, there are few, like drivning in extremely slippery conditions). But in general , it's easier and faster to just let automatic do it's job and not use the paddles.

 

Bringing F1 automobiles into this discussion is so irrelevant. We aren't driving 200+ mph supercars that have massive power.

 

+1

 

Thanks, but this is what I actually said "The reality is.....the clutch
(as you know it) is going away guys. Example is the GTR.
I am aware that the GTR is not an automatic, but a manual that acts like an auto. .the bottom line is say goodbye to the clutch pedal.

 

I agree with everything you said in the quote except for this part. This is incorrect. The "D" selection will get you around fine in normal driving conditions, but if you want to be aggressive or actually race a 5AT you better use the manual selection of gears. In "D" it will not downshift or upshift at the right time for the max benefit. It's not going to downshift going into a 25 mph turn if you are in drive and if you drag race it count on turning 8/10 - 1 second slower times if you leave it in drive.

 

Well, I didn't refer to racing, just the street driving. Automatic in racing is just very akward no matter what mode you in. No automatic I've seen would let you downshift more than two gears at a time, and that is usually 4 seconds kind of time for two gears. Which is no surprise because of the way automatic is designed. So if you breaking down the corner it's just easier to let automatic do it's job, than trying to simulate manual technics, IMHO. In manual mode it's very frustrating and time consuming. Around and out of the corner, yeah, it's better to stay in the same gear and upshift manually based on the desired RPM.

 

Driving an automatic.. will never be as much fun as driving stick. Argue all you want. Dont get me wrong, I like automatic. When Im lazy I just take my girlfriends car.

Just hearing that nice beautiful VQ tone going through automatic shifting just ruins everything,blah. Automatic is more of a cruiser to me.

 

I'll be picking up a manual. Like the poster above me said, there's just nothing like going through those gears.

 

Love the new styling and shorter wheel base. However, not sure if I like the auto rev matching downshift in the "Manual" gearbox. I mean, it's gonna be weird especially I've driving "heel and toe" downshift for so long, On the plus side, I would like to see how much of a lockup and shift time is on the new 7-spd Auto with paddleshift like thou. So, I'm gonna wait for a personal test drive before I decide whether going manual or Auto this time.