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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
I guess we'll just have to see what happens then, won't we
Yeah, just hoping a good driver gets a hold of one
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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+1, wtf i dont understand all these 350 nuthuggers. the 370 is sexier, its a bit faster, handles a bit better, weighs a bit less, has a much nicer interior and all for the same price we paid for our 350's! lulz 370 > 350, get over it people. nissan has provided a better product, you dont have to bash it to make yourselves feel better, enjoy what you have dont hate on something you dont.
I call this "reverse fanboyism". You gave yourself away by stating that the 370 is "sexier" as if it were fact. This should be what's called.. an opinion.

You also assume that everyone is "hating" when in fact most are just voicing disappointment, because of questionable styling cues, and minor performance increases.. which they can achieve with minor bolt-ons.

Don't be so insecure, the 370 is not a slouch, but it isn't all it's cracked up to be for many legitimate Z enthusiasts. Deal.

Personally, I'm on the fence in terms of looks. It looks ok in some pics.. other pics it looks just plain awkward.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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I call this "reverse fanboyism". You gave yourself away by stating that the 370 is "sexier" as if it were fact. This should be what's called.. an opinion.

You also assume that everyone is "hating" when in fact most are just voicing disappointment, because of questionable styling cues, and minor performance increases.. which they can achieve with minor bolt-ons.

Don't be so insecure, the 370 is not a slouch, but it isn't all it's cracked up to be for many legitimate Z enthusiasts. Deal.

Personally, I'm on the fence in terms of looks. It looks ok in some pics.. other pics it looks just plain awkward.
They fail to realize that the 370z is a letdown to us because we were expecting a lot more. At least from the exterior if not from the performance. Instead we get an ugly car with hardly any noticeable performance for a DD.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ghost30
I call this "reverse fanboyism". You gave yourself away by stating that the 370 is "sexier" as if it were fact. This should be what's called.. an opinion.

You also assume that everyone is "hating" when in fact most are just voicing disappointment, because of questionable styling cues, and minor performance increases.. which they can achieve with minor bolt-ons.

Don't be so insecure, the 370 is not a slouch, but it isn't all it's cracked up to be for many legitimate Z enthusiasts. Deal.

Personally, I'm on the fence in terms of looks. It looks ok in some pics.. other pics it looks just plain awkward.
my question is.. wtf were you expecting? the car costs the same still and... they improved just about EVERYTHING. its not cracked up to be what? its sub 30k 332hp sports coupe. its faster, better handling, better interior and all for the same freakin price? its cracked up to be a bit better like it suppose to be. i dont think nissan went about this to make a new Super Z. its just another step up thats all. ive even seen people say that the 370 is slower then the HR Z. how is that possible? someone called the new nicer interior "rice". ive even seen people claim the car is heavier then the 350. looks are subjective so i can understand that but the other claims are flat out ludicrous.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyinkilla
They fail to realize that the 370z is a letdown to us because we were expecting a lot more. At least from the exterior if not from the performance. Instead we get an ugly car with hardly any noticeable performance for a DD.
Was the 350 head and shoulders above the 300zxTT performance wise? Here is a link covering both TT and non turbo models over the generation. I posted what was one of the better magazine times for the TT. It was matched by only one company but we all know how credible these times can be.http://www.zparts.com/showcase/zcars...es/perfz32.htm

1991 300ZX Twin Turbo
0-60 5.0
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 13.7@102
Lateral Acceleration .87
Braking from 70 168
Braking from 80 ---
Top Speed 153
Peak HP(hp/rpm) 300/6400
Peak Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3414
Source Car and Drivr 8/91

Acceleration wise 350s weren't that much quicker than twin turbos. Marginal at best. While they seem to handle and brake a bit better, you may aswell be calling the Z33 a letdown since it's not as big of a leap as you expect.. Not to mention such a long wait and possibly more time for research and development to put into the 350. The magazine times from Z32 to Z33 to Z34 are as consistent as they come. No regress only steady progress my friend.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060
Was the 350 head and shoulders above the 300zxTT performance wise? Here is a link covering both TT and non turbo models over the generation. I posted what was one of the better magazine times for the TT. It was matched by only one company but we all know how credible these times can be.http://www.zparts.com/showcase/zcars...es/perfz32.htm

1991 300ZX Twin Turbo
0-60 5.0
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 13.7@102
Lateral Acceleration .87
Braking from 70 168
Braking from 80 ---
Top Speed 153
Peak HP(hp/rpm) 300/6400
Peak Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3414
Source Car and Drivr 8/91

Acceleration wise 350s weren't that much quicker than twin turbos. Marginal at best. While they seem to handle and brake a bit better, you may aswell be calling the Z33 a letdown since it's not as big of a leap as you expect.. Not to mention such a long wait and possibly more time for research and development to put into the 350. The magazine times from Z32 to Z33 to Z34 are as consistent as they come. No regress only steady progress my friend.
+1, i guess they were expecting the 370 to pull 1+ lateral G's, and a 12 second quarter mile time by a magazine.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060
Was the 350 head and shoulders above the 300zxTT performance wise? Here is a link covering both TT and non turbo models over the generation. I posted what was one of the better magazine times for the TT. It was matched by only one company but we all know how credible these times can be.http://www.zparts.com/showcase/zcars...es/perfz32.htm

1991 300ZX Twin Turbo
0-60 5.0
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 13.7@102
Lateral Acceleration .87
Braking from 70 168
Braking from 80 ---
Top Speed 153
Peak HP(hp/rpm) 300/6400
Peak Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3414
Source Car and Drivr 8/91

Acceleration wise 350s weren't that much quicker than twin turbos. Marginal at best. While they seem to handle and brake a bit better, you may aswell be calling the Z33 a letdown since it's not as big of a leap as you expect.. Not to mention such a long wait and possibly more time for research and development to put into the 350. The magazine times from Z32 to Z33 to Z34 are as consistent as they come. No regress only steady progress my friend.
The 300zx actually kinda smoked the first iterations of the 350z. But the technology behind the 350z was hands down better. Plus it got alot more fanfare because it was the return of the z car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrO-P...eature=related

There is no doubt that the 370 is technically a better car. I don't have any beef with the performance. I think mostly people have problems with the styling. Personally, if I had an Z33 already particularly an HR, I'd keep it and either get minor upgrades or boost it. Now, I could see new potential Z owners going for the 370. Personally, I might still go for the HR, with minor upgrades or boost, just because of the styling.

I have a G35, and I was amped to trade in my 35 for a G37 just because of the concept. I used to have the concept as a desktop picture.. I knew it was my next car. However the debut of the production model was a huge letdown for me. Saw it in person.. thought it was.. soft. Test drove the car, and was let down even further. A marginal difference in power. The interior was miles better though.

Well, at least they didn't water down the z, like they did the G37.. (sorry if I offend 37 owners). But that's how I saw it. Modded, and lowered the G37 (like almost anything) looks better, but I still couldn't justify trading my car. I'll always think of the G35 as a classic design, with the right amount of aggressiveness, but still elegant.

The 370 Z.. man, It's just about the suspect styling. Lets just say, I think they could have done a lot better to make the cars design flow better. Could be wrong here, but I'll go as far as to say that I think the younger crowd likes this car more, because it has that aggressive boy racer look. I'm in my early 30's, I don't think the 370 looks that elegant or sleek. But it does certainly look aggressive.. too much going on there stylistically if you ask me.

Anyway, starting sound like a broken record. I'll have to see this thing in person. But like the G37, I generally know what I don't like. So, I don't expect to be surprised. Performance wise, I'm already boosted so I'm already jaded, and I don't expect to be wow'd by the numbers.

I will say, that the 370 will probably be great for people coming from VQDE's or first time Z owners. And people who want an aggressive "in your face" looking car.

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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Agreed. If I had a HR I'm not sure I would trade for the 370 either or even if I had a boosted DE. I also prefer the G35 styling over the G37 even though the changes aren't as dramatic as they are between the Zs.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kleefton
The 370 can pull 0.97 on the skidpad. comparatively an 03' Track 350z can only pull 0.89. Both cars came with similar sized tires too.
There is just nothing more to say. The 370 has so much more grip it's ridiculous.

Also, to those who don't think it's noticeably faster than the 350z, when is the last time the 350z did a 13.3 in a magazine test? The answer is never.
with a 0.3 tenths advantage the 370 is probably a good 3-4 car lengths faster than the 350 in the 1/4 mile. That's a little more than a "bumper" difference.

The new car is just better. Looks are subjective, and I understand those who think the 350 looks better, but there is no denying the replacing model is just a better car.
Ya but mine isn't an 03 track,it's an 07 nismo and i know what it can do.Bottom line i'm not worried about it out handling me stock for stock.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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Ya but mine isn't an 03 track,it's an 07 nismo and i know what it can do.Bottom line i'm not worried about it out handling me stock for stock.
Yeah, I bet your Nismo would decimate it on the track!
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BADASSTT
Funny my wife said the same thing
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I saw a 370 in San Marcos yesterday and had to stop and check it out (my first time seeing one in person). My girlfriend was with me and she said she likes the looks 350 much more
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
i guess they were expecting the 370 to pull 1+ lateral G's, and a 12 second quarter mile time by a magazine.
And all for under $30k
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BADASSTT
Funny my wife said the same thing
My girlfriend agrees
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by burner
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I saw a 370 in San Marcos yesterday and had to stop and check it out (my first time seeing one in person). My girlfriend was with me and she said she likes the looks 350 much more
LOL

No doubt everyone knows how male biased car forums like this one are.. How many times have we heard nonsense like this?

Women either:

Can't drive
Can't drive stick
Only buy cute cars
Can't decide for themselves on what car to buy
Etc..etc..
In other words they basically are clueless or shouldn't have a say about anything auto related.

But low and behold! Their of some use now.
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Originally Posted by Greg06
+1 We are NOT all the same.

Just like the poster above... Just because it's bad for some, doesn't mean it's curtains for all.
id say that i like some of the interior changes, im not a fan of the front end, or the rear, i do like that the tires look wider in the back. i woudnt trade my nismo for a 370 though. the power isnt that much better either. 2 foot pounds torque and 25 horses arent a lot. and that is so easy to make with simple bolt on and a tune.

hopefully nissan reads these forums also and they do a bit more cosmetic work on the car. fix the little things and it could be very nice.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg06
LOL

No doubt everyone knows how male biased car forums like this one are.. How many times have we heard nonsense like this?

Women either:

Can't drive
Can't drive stick
Only buy cute cars
Can't decide for themselves on what car to buy
Etc..etc..
In other words they basically are clueless or shouldn't have a say about anything auto related.

But low and behold! Their of some use now.
lulz, its very funny you say that. My gf loves how the 370Z looks.

She can drive.
She can drive a stick.
Doesn't believe in "cute" cars.
Has an idea on what type of car she'd like next.

Her daily is a 5th gen Prelude and her "toy" is a 280Z
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by black07nismo
id say that i like some of the interior changes, im not a fan of the front end, or the rear, i do like that the tires look wider in the back. i woudnt trade my nismo for a 370 though. the power isnt that much better either. 2 foot pounds torque and 25 horses arent a lot. and that is so easy to make with simple bolt on and a tune.

hopefully nissan reads these forums also and they do a bit more cosmetic work on the car. fix the little things and it could be very nice.
Nothing wrong with that.. Again it's all subjective, some will like it some won't.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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I really like the new look of the 370Z, Nissan did a great job of rebuilding a great car. As a 350Z owner I love the new bold styling and powerful engine of the 370Z. I have not been surprised of the negative comments the 370Z's styling is getting by blogers. When the 350Z came out back in 2002 I read a lot of negative comments about its styling also and now everyone loves it. The looks of the 370Z will grow on everyone im sure as it did on the 350Z.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by blasian
lulz, its very funny you say that. My gf loves how the 370Z looks.

She can drive.
She can drive a stick.
Doesn't believe in "cute" cars.
Has an idea on what type of car she'd like next.

Her daily is a 5th gen Prelude and her "toy" is a 280Z
The question is, can she cook?
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Originally Posted by blasian
lulz, its very funny you say that. My gf loves how the 370Z looks.

She can drive.
She can drive a stick.
Doesn't believe in "cute" cars.
Has an idea on what type of car she'd like next.

Her daily is a 5th gen Prelude and her "toy" is a 280Z
280z huh? Cool

My wife also decides on type of car she wants (e90 328i currently). Has never had an accident and has done quite a few track days herself (77 Corolla SR5) in the past and btw also thinks the 370 is vast improvement over the 350.

We gotta stick up for our female car enthusiasts
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