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Old 07-26-2009, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
The older auto C5 came with a crap tranny, as you mention. The newer ones are a bit quicker, but unless tuned, are slushes compared to the MT's. Stock AT's are very low 13 second cars, so they aren't slow by any means. The MT's have gotten as low as 12.7'ish bone stock (most likely awesome DA and track prep + very good driver though).

C5 AT vs 370Z: drivers race
C5 MT vs 370Z: Vette wins
C5Z vs 370Z: Vette schools the 370Z
C6 (LS2/LS3) vs 370Z: Same as vs C5Z
Actually i'd give the nod to the 370Z against a C5 AT and say its a drivers race for a 370Z and C5 MT. I'ver personally seen two different AT C5s lose to a stock HR 350Z from a roll..so I know for sure a 370Z would pull. The AT C5s are definetly a notch down from the MT C5s. And given that the 370Z is under the new SAE power rating and the LS1 C5s are under the old its safe to assume they are both making VERY similar power figures and weights are nearly identical.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
Actually i'd give the nod to the 370Z against a C5 AT and say its a drivers race for a 370Z and C5 MT. I'ver personally seen two different AT C5s lose to a stock HR 350Z from a roll..so I know for sure a 370Z would pull. The AT C5s are definetly a notch down from the MT C5s. And given that the 370Z is under the new SAE power rating and the LS1 C5s are under the old its safe to assume they are both making VERY similar power figures and weights are nearly identical.
Only time will tell, as the 370Z is still new and not much info out there yet. One would have to be able to post a 1/4 time (stock) around 12.8-12.9 to be considered.

Stock C5's are dyno'ing ~290-310rwhp (vs 270-290rwhp for 370Z). Plus they have alot more torque over the V6.

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Old 07-26-2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Italianjoe1
Truth of the matter is, the 370 has more power across the whole powerband, is lighter, and with better gearing. It SHOULD be faster. The fact that an HR 350 can stay close seems odd to me.
No. Heavier.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by freshlettuce
I've actually raced one of my buddies LS1 Camaro z28 with basic bolt ons. It was a 2001 model, and I had my HR 350z, from a 40 roll, I pulled on him by almost my whole cars length, he was trailing at my back wheel/antenna. We raced 4 times and I got him everytime.
Same here before my intakes and exhaust. I pulled away from a LS1 TransAm at the drag strip every time. I have also played with a friend in his C6 Base model, and he had a hard time pulling away from my car. Now I can't wait to run him again with my extra goodies.

But my 350Z HR is faster than a 370z. For those that can't read, I said "MY".
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
I'm not talking about Camaros... You stated the 370 would keep up with a C6 and then mentioned beating LS1's. The only LS1's the 370 would stand a chance against would be the ones in f-bodies and the GTO. C5 Vettes have LS1's as well, however, power to weight ratio gives the edge to the C5.

No way one will even come close to a C6 (even the older LS2 versions).
That's funny, my 99 TA use to beat C5s all the time. Keep trying to think your Vette is the best thing since sliced bread.
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
Only time will tell, as the 370Z is still new and not much info out there yet. One would have to be able to post a 1/4 time (stock) around 12.8-12.9 to be considered.

Stock C5's are dyno'ing ~290-310rwhp (vs 270-290rwhp for 370Z). Plus they have alot more torque over the V6.
This is true and a MT C5 may very well still be a little quicker then a stock 370Z...but its definetly going to be a close race when you look at the power/weight/trap speeds the cars are putting up. A Nismo 370Z in theory SHOULD dyno around 290-300WHP and so long as the weight isnt much more they should be capable of a high 12 stock....
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
That's funny, my 99 TA use to beat C5s all the time. Keep trying to think your Vette is the best thing since sliced bread.
Coming from the guy who can only best a 13.8'ish, I find it tough believing you can pull away from anything.
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
This is true and a MT C5 may very well still be a little quicker then a stock 370Z...but its definetly going to be a close race when you look at the power/weight/trap speeds the cars are putting up. A Nismo 370Z in theory SHOULD dyno around 290-300WHP and so long as the weight isnt much more they should be capable of a high 12 stock....
I believe the 370Z should field a stock time in the high 12's. Waiting for it to happen though and will be disappointed if it doesn't.
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
Coming from the guy who can only best a 13.8'ish, I find it tough believing you can pull away from anything.

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Old 07-26-2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
Coming from the guy who can only best a 13.8'ish, I find it tough believing you can pull away from anything.
Laugh. All tracks are different and you should know that. As someone mentioned correcting my numbers that was a 13.5 run at 104+

And that was before my intakes, exhaust. Anything else you want to say as usual?

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Old 07-26-2009, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
Coming from the guy who can only best a 13.8'ish, I find it tough believing you can pull away from anything.
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Old 07-26-2009, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Laugh. All tracks are different and you should know that. As someone mentioned correcting my numbers that was a 13.5 run at 104+

And that was before my intakes, exhaust. Anything else you want to say as usual?
So, your best time has been a 13.8'ish, correct?

What was your best time in your TA?
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10 years ago, I don't remember. 13.5 something around 105 i think. It had a few mods.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
10 years ago, I don't remember. 13.5 something around 105 i think. It had a few mods.
But yet your TA was whooping up all over C5 vettes, even though you even ran a slow time with that car as well. 13.5 would put you near the bottom of the C5 fast list.
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Old 07-26-2009, 05:41 PM
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edit. You know you are just a fking troll. Not even worth discussing with it, because you just find more **** to attack people on.

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Old 07-26-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HDPDZO6
But yet your TA was whooping up all over C5 vettes, even though you even ran a slow time with that car as well. 13.5 would put you near the bottom of the C5 fast list.

I dont know solo anybetter than I know you.BUT I do know you are really acting a fool.Please come to SAR and show us how its done on a crappy track and 95 degree weather AT NIGHT.

As an FYI I ran .6 sec faster and 2 mph faster in Gainsville vs SAR with no changes other than location.
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Old 07-26-2009, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 07_350z_JP
I dont know solo anybetter than I know you.BUT I do know you are really acting a fool.Please come to SAR and show us how its done on a crappy track and 95 degree weather AT NIGHT.

As an FYI I ran .6 sec faster and 2 mph faster in Gainsville vs SAR with no changes other than location.
No thanks, I grew up in that town and have no urge to go back.

However, I know about DA's. You have it good at San Antonio Raceway. Try coming to Vegas where you won't even come close to breaking into 13's unless you have full boltons (or better) plus DR's.

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Old 07-26-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
edit. You know you are just a fking troll. Not even worth discussing with it, because you just find more **** to attack people on.
By the way, look what I found. A bone stock run for a 370Z at your track...

<table class="browse3table" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="97%"><tbody><tr><td class="browse3inside">13.593*</td> <td class="browse3inside">105.930 </td> <td class="browse3inside">8.860 </td> <td class="browse3inside">81.790 </td> <td class="browse3inside">2.088 </td> <td class="browse3inside">60.0 </td> <td class="browse3inside">Nissan 370Z Base w/ Sports Package</td> <td class="browse3inside">2009 </td> <td class="browse3inside">Aaron Van Heldorf </td></tr></tbody></table>

Didn't see any stock 350Z times that were faster, especially for an HR. So much for your theory that the 370Z is slower. At least at your track, it isn't.
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^ I respect you cause you always do your research. All i'm saying is what you said time will tell. But 12.8 for C5 is also a very good time. That's like saying the 2003 Z ran a 13.5 stock cause one or two have. There are some factory freaks and we know it. Average time in the 1/4 for a C5 is 13.1-13.4. My boss with a 97 vette has a filter and borla exhaust and ran a 13.3. He can def. drive too cause he has a 8 second mustang as well. I was for right now just going off this thread

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/street...eath-3-7l.html

But you should know that if C&D and R&T are getting 13.2 as a time a good driver should get that number down even more. It's been like that for all GM cars, Cobra's, and even the Z car.

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Old 07-26-2009, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DemitriHKS
^ I respect you cause you always do your research. All i'm saying is what you said time will tell. But 12.8 for C5 is also a very good time. That's like saying the 2003 Z ran a 13.5 stock cause one or two have. There are some factory freaks and we know it. Average time in the 1/4 for a C5 is 13.1-13.4.
The 370Z time I listed above was only another jab at SOLO-350Z, who insists they are slower than the HR. I realize it was at a less than desirable track and believe had it been at one of the 3-4 God tracks (with the negative DA's) on the East Coast, that run would have been in the 12's. I have no doubt a 370Z would give a C5 a very good run for the money. It will lose some races, but it will also prevail. What's really cool is, from what I've read, the 370Z responds to mods about as well as LS series motors do. Something the 350Z came up short (talking about all-motor mods), unless one is willing to spend alot of money. So I'm looking forward to some bolt-on battles as well.

My only contention was the earlier claim they would be able to keep up with C6's and beat C5's as a matter of fact. So, maybe I jumped the gun a little too early and will change what I earlier stated. C5 vs 370Z = driver's race.

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