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I think they almost have to do it, everyone is switching to turbos and plus I think they have reach the limits of the motor. Yeah, they found more HP out of the new 370z, but no torque. It would be nice to have a motor, in which HP and torque are similar.
HAAHAH
I have owned both, and I think they both sound the same...
Come on, guy, they sound nothing alike. I told my wife we should replace her Z33ZR with a Z34 or Z34ZR, and she said, "no way" because she loves the sound of the VG35DE so much. I can't argue with her - a) because she's right and b) because I always lose.
I like newer and better things. Gonna hate on me right away for that?
Actually, point out a 370Z owner that flaunts his sh*t.
Don't hate on a car just because the car you bought is now old news. If you really want to b*tch and moan, give Nissan a call and demand they make future models slower.
Highly doubtful IMO that we'll see Nissan produce a turbo Z34 while the GT-R is still in production.
I don't understand the hate from the NOOBS regarding the HR vs. VHR. I have both a DE ('06 G35 coupe) and a new 370Z... and I thoroughly enjoy both motors. The supposed harshness/courseness of the VQ37VHR has really been exagerated, overstated, and hyped IMO.
Yeah, the current VQs handle boost so well! I mean there is hardly a blown engine on this forum......LOLOLOL
STFU with your ignorant generalizations and go back to the OT lounge where you belong. The shop I go to (Intense) has an excellent history of success with the VQ. Any regular in the FI forums knows that blown VQ motors are much less common nowadays, especially when the work is done by a competent shop. Welcome to 2009. LOL
Furthermore, the HR and VHR motors have significantly stronger blocks and rods than the DE motor. I know of only one blown HR motor on the forums thus far and the guy was running more boost than is generally accepted as a safe reliable level for a stock block. So yes... The CURRENT VQ's seem to handle boost pretty well!
Quit polluting every 370Z related thread with your hate and inflammatory comments. If you don't like the 370Z, fine. Don't get one. But there is no valid reason to be a dick and **** on everyone else who likes and/or has a 370Z.
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Highly doubtful IMO that we'll see Nissan produce a turbo Z34 while the GT-R is still in production.
I don't understand the hate from the NOOBS regarding the HR vs. VHR. I have both a DE ('06 G35 coupe) and a new 370Z... and I thoroughly enjoy both motors. The supposed harshness/courseness of the VQ37VHR has really been exagerated, overstated, and hyped IMO.
Ok.... Anyways getting back on topic again, i trully agree with this statement, i truly do not see them having a Turbo'd Z as well as a GTR in the same production year... But i dont expect the GTR to last another 4 years, they brought the car out during the great economy that we're in right now and if they had a turbo option for the Z more people would probably go towards that car rather than the GTR, and one reason being........... 6spd manual... But who really wants a turbo factory Z?? I for one wouldnt cause we'll just upgrade everything anyways and there is alot to choose from for going FI with our NA cars (supercharger, single turbo, twin turbo, stroker kit) all with many different manufacturers putting these kits out. So like i said I'd rather prefer a NA Z than a factory Turbo Z just because of the more options you get to play with, just my .02
Ok.... Anyways getting back on topic again, i trully agree with this statement, i truly do not see them having a Turbo'd Z as well as a GTR in the same production year... But i dont expect the GTR to last another 4 years, they brought the car out during the great economy that we're in right now and if they had a turbo option for the Z more people would probably go towards that car rather than the GTR, and one reason being........... 6spd manual... But who really wants a turbo factory Z?? I for one wouldnt cause we'll just upgrade everything anyways and there is alot to choose from for going FI with our NA cars (supercharger, single turbo, twin turbo, stroker kit) all with many different manufacturers putting these kits out. So like i said I'd rather prefer a NA Z than a factory Turbo Z just because of the more options you get to play with, just my .02
Good points, however...
A) The GTR has it's own market, as would a factory FI Z. GTR is still supercar status. The Z would still be sports car status. Some people would want the super-fast-shifting transmission, paddle shifters, AWD, etc.
It's like offering a RWD 6mt supercar for cheaper but with a less powerful engine. People would still opt for the AWD, electrohydraulic transmission, and more powerful engine.
B) A factory FI car is built to handle boost. How well to stock VQs handle boost? Hit and miss reliability. To make it as reliable as a factory FI car, it costs a hell of a lot more.
STFU with your ignorant generalizations and go back to the OT lounge where you belong. The shop I go to (Intense) has an excellent history of success with the VQ. Any regular in the FI forums knows that blown VQ motors are much less common nowadays, especially when the work is done by a competent shop. Welcome to 2009. LOL
Furthermore, the HR and VHR motors have significantly stronger blocks and rods than the DE motor. I know of only one blown HR motor on the forums thus far and the guy was running more boost than is generally accepted as a safe reliable level for a stock block. So yes... The CURRENT VQ's seem to handle boost pretty well!
Quit polluting every 370Z related thread with your hate and inflammatory comments. If you don't like the 370Z, fine. Don't get one. But there is no valid reason to be a dick and **** on everyone else who likes and/or has a 370Z.
... But who really wants a turbo factory Z?? I for one wouldnt cause we'll just upgrade everything anyways and there is alot to choose from for going FI with our NA cars (supercharger, single turbo, twin turbo, stroker kit) all with many different manufacturers putting these kits out. So like i said I'd rather prefer a NA Z than a factory Turbo Z just because of the more options you get to play with, just my .02
Your statement doesn't really make sense (to me at least). Factory FI cars have just as many (and even more) manufacturers producing FI oriented products for them as do factory NA cars (case in point Mitsubishi Evo, Subaru WRX/STI, '03-'04 Mustang Cobras, etc.). The only thing that may not be so common is a manufacturer producing a supercharger kit for a factory turbo'd vehicle, but then again why would they? Not that many people would purchase it.