370z vs 335i, whats needed to run 12.4/6
12-02-2009, 07:20 AM
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Alright.....a high 1.7 (more than doable with a competent driver on DR's/Slicks) and traps of 110-112 (which I believe has already happened in the run referenced in the post above)=low-mid 12's.
The 370's added power will allow them to accelerate through the first 60' quicker than a lesser power 350. There have been a few NA 350's that have run this quickly in the short timing mark. The question will be weather the chassis/suspension allots enough weight transfer to the rear. The suspension is stiffer, but that is always a bad thing.
While you are right that it hasn't been done.......I would put generous bet that you will see a 12.2-12.5 from an NA 370 before the end of 10'.
Then again what would I know I only made 155 passes this year.
The 370's added power will allow them to accelerate through the first 60' quicker than a lesser power 350. There have been a few NA 350's that have run this quickly in the short timing mark. The question will be weather the chassis/suspension allots enough weight transfer to the rear. The suspension is stiffer, but that is always a bad thing.
While you are right that it hasn't been done.......I would put generous bet that you will see a 12.2-12.5 from an NA 370 before the end of 10'.
Then again what would I know I only made 155 passes this year.
I guess +1 on that... 12.6 should be easily doable on sticky tire.
12-03-2009, 09:35 PM
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What tune is your friend running? What bolt ons?
I'm running JB3, Catless Downpipes, and Injen Intake and I doubt any all motor 370z could hang. (No Crate Engines lol)
I'm running JB3, Catless Downpipes, and Injen Intake and I doubt any all motor 370z could hang. (No Crate Engines lol)
12-14-2009, 08:35 AM
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Because you are not informed. A 350z will run 12s with boltons only, stock motor and FD. http://www.youtube.com/v/8XQazS_Srbs&hl=en_US&fs=1&
An MT 370z should in the mid and low 12s actually with minimal NA mods. And tune of course. This is a good gain with test pipes and exhaust no intakes. https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...velopment.html
A 335 coupe weighs more and that 370^ with exhaust mods only makes more power w/ less weight. Add some intakes and it makes more power.
An MT 370z should in the mid and low 12s actually with minimal NA mods. And tune of course. This is a good gain with test pipes and exhaust no intakes. https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...velopment.html
A 335 coupe weighs more and that 370^ with exhaust mods only makes more power w/ less weight. Add some intakes and it makes more power.
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12-14-2009, 11:08 AM
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Well in all fairness, only one bolt-on DE has gone 12's, but there are now 2 bolt-on HR's in the 12's. I'm close as well. A bolt-on 370 makes 50+whp more than my car, weighs less than a 100 pounds more, and has a better FD.....mid 12's shouldn't be an issue at all.
12-17-2009, 08:14 PM
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Give it until next summer there will be a ton of guys running high 12s and some even better. Mid 12s will take most importantly a GOOD driver and a set of drag radials..
people are trapping 107-108 with minor bolt ons like test pipes and intake and maybe exhaust..
As parts develop and more people figure out the best configurations well see 320whp 370z's. Loose a few pounds from your car, prob need the gears (370zs gears are noticable longer and i dont think 4.08s will be too much at all), good tires, and a good driver you should hit what you want to hit..
OR you can shoot it with a small shot of nitrous... like a 75 shot configured correctly
but my guess with possibly these new fast intentions long tubes being developed or even just test pipes , good exhuast, stillen g3s, and a tune should get you in the 12s atleast IF you can drive.
people are trapping 107-108 with minor bolt ons like test pipes and intake and maybe exhaust..
As parts develop and more people figure out the best configurations well see 320whp 370z's. Loose a few pounds from your car, prob need the gears (370zs gears are noticable longer and i dont think 4.08s will be too much at all), good tires, and a good driver you should hit what you want to hit..
OR you can shoot it with a small shot of nitrous... like a 75 shot configured correctly
but my guess with possibly these new fast intentions long tubes being developed or even just test pipes , good exhuast, stillen g3s, and a tune should get you in the 12s atleast IF you can drive.
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12-17-2009, 08:47 PM
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Because you are not informed. A 350z will run 12s with boltons only, stock motor and FD. http://www.youtube.com/v/8XQazS_Srbs&hl=en_US&fs=1&
An MT 370z should in the mid and low 12s actually with minimal NA mods. And tune of course. This is a good gain with test pipes and exhaust no intakes. https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...velopment.html
A 335 coupe weighs more and that 370^ with exhaust mods only makes more power w/ less weight. Add some intakes and it makes more power.
An MT 370z should in the mid and low 12s actually with minimal NA mods. And tune of course. This is a good gain with test pipes and exhaust no intakes. https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds...velopment.html
A 335 coupe weighs more and that 370^ with exhaust mods only makes more power w/ less weight. Add some intakes and it makes more power.
12-18-2009, 04:33 AM
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12-21-2009, 02:16 PM
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you will need boost for running constant low 12's imho. My SC Z with 370whp 5AT ran constant low 12's all day any weather with street tires Get boost and you will be doing good.
12-21-2009, 04:17 PM
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Is that actually your list of owned cars in your sig or more of a wish list? What are you doing with a Z if you own a GT, S600, and M3? Do you like slumming it in your Z?
12-23-2009, 11:43 AM
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Show us how its done here: https://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840...ons-stock.html
This is interesting. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=maxima
This is what they got to play with. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248764 Race gas. Lower on pump gas.
Right now the forefront of turbo upgrades is coming from ASR, HPF and AMS and all of them are simply looking at upgraded impellers on the stock turbos. ASR hit 500WHP on a dyno glory run with all mods and meth injection and I think sold a couple kits for 7-10K but I havnt heard anything from them latley which is not a good sign considering how much comotion they caused a few months back. AMS and HPF are in the testing phases of their kits and I dont see them being much cheaper than ASR.
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12-23-2009, 01:47 PM
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Cant run my car in the 1/4 yet. But here is a list showing what some 335s run. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93664 Look for auto non modded. 6MTs run low to mid 13s.
This is interesting. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=maxima
This is what they got to play with. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248764 Race gas. Lower on pump gas.
10k for 200 additional whp.
This is interesting. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=maxima
This is what they got to play with. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248764 Race gas. Lower on pump gas.
10k for 200 additional whp.
01-14-2010, 05:59 AM
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low-mid 12's...is do-able..
if i had the money/370z...
intake/exhaust/test pipes/pulleys/ecu/tune/clutch/flywheel/sticky street tires/minimal weight reduction
i think thats all itd take to break a 12.7 in the z...and thats with an average driver...
i think 370's with proper mods/driver will be battling to low 12's on street tires....high 12's/low 13's will the norm..
if i had the money/370z...
intake/exhaust/test pipes/pulleys/ecu/tune/clutch/flywheel/sticky street tires/minimal weight reduction
i think thats all itd take to break a 12.7 in the z...and thats with an average driver...
i think 370's with proper mods/driver will be battling to low 12's on street tires....high 12's/low 13's will the norm..
